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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 05:10 PM Feb 2020

Let's try an ice cream analogy, shall we? [View all]

Anti-Bernie pundits just won't give up on the lie that "70%" of Dems are against Bernie.

So...let's say we have an ice cream party with 6 flavors. The most popular flavor is, say, vanilla, which is the favorite of 30% of the people. Then comes chocolate with 20, and strawberry with 15, and so on. Does that mean that 70% of the people don't like vanilla? That vanilla fans are some kind of fringe minority? Who on earth would draw that conclusion?

What if we also know that vanilla is the flavor that the largest number of people said they viewed favorably, even if it wasn't their first choice. It's also the flavor that the most people would be satisfied or excited about having. And also most people picked vanilla over any other flavor when given a head-to-head choice. After all that, would any sane person still try to pretend that vanilla was not the favorite flavor?

Oh, and since we're talking ice cream, let's say that four years there was another ice cream party but that time there were only two flavors, vanilla, and pistachio. Between those two, vanilla got 45% and pistachio got 55%. Would anyone in their right mind say that vanilla has had a huge drop in popularity from the two-flavor party four years ago to the six-flavor party today?

Anyone who said any of that would be laughed out of the room. And yet anti-Bernie pundits make those very same arguments, with a straight face, every day. Yeah, it's hard to believe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Bernie needs voters of color in SC so arguing the case for vanilla may not be best strategy here. TeamPooka Feb 2020 #1
no comment on the analogy.... quickesst Feb 2020 #20
:) TeamPooka Feb 2020 #47
Except in the end relayerbob Feb 2020 #2
Which is why we should pick the flavor that the most people would be happy with. DanTex Feb 2020 #4
No, most people are NOT in favor of it relayerbob Feb 2020 #18
Vanilla. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #28
Unfortuantely relayerbob Feb 2020 #33
re: "Choosing the one 70% of the ones who like ice cream doesn't like," thesquanderer Feb 2020 #23
Hence my choice of Warren relayerbob Feb 2020 #31
re: "Your assumption is that Sanders is that many's second choice." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #38
Actually relayerbob Feb 2020 #39
Except the election will only allow you to vote for one flavor. No combis. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #40
Actually, that's exactly how the brokered/contested convention works relayerbob Feb 2020 #41
The problem is we've already determined that none of our flavors are acceptable to more people... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #42
Actaully, with only about 5% of the votes counted relayerbob Feb 2020 #43
I meant we had determined it based on this: thesquanderer Feb 2020 #44
Understood relayerbob Feb 2020 #46
Let's try a different analogy... brooklynite Feb 2020 #3
Nope. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #6
You're ignoring all the polling data. All of it. I wonder why? DanTex Feb 2020 #7
re: "Does that mean that 70% of the people don't like Sanders or think he won't win? Yes." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #17
Google Translator couldn't make sense of this one. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #5
Haaaaaa! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #24
Lol sheshe2 Feb 2020 #29
The proper analogy is squirecam Feb 2020 #8
The polling data points to the exact opposite of that. DanTex Feb 2020 #9
I don't know why you squirecam Feb 2020 #10
Please, enlighten me! I posted links to polls, you haven't. DanTex Feb 2020 #13
You keep posting on that one old survey. squirecam Feb 2020 #16
I've posted multiple links to multiple surveys. And other polls come out the same way, google it. DanTex Feb 2020 #26
Except when various "chocolate variants" became unviable in the first round in Nevada, thesquanderer Feb 2020 #32
Ha! Here's my version of the "Ice Cream analogy" from two weeks ago Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #11
LOL. Excellent. Sorry for the accidental plagiarism! DanTex Feb 2020 #14
No problem, I plagiarize talking points from you all the time! It's in the ether Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #19
But isn't that what people fear about "socialism," restricted choices of ice cream? Hoyt Feb 2020 #12
Wait a second C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #15
What if all of the people at the party were going to order ice cream... SidDithers Feb 2020 #21
Good question. Here's the answer. DanTex Feb 2020 #25
And yet vanilla still doesn't have 50% of the delegates... SidDithers Feb 2020 #27
Well, now you're talking about what the ice cream industry wants, not the people. DanTex Feb 2020 #30
I've got a hunch that some of those who wanted vanilla will decide they won't want any at all Rorey Feb 2020 #36
Will you flip your script if, after SC, Biden is tied or ahead of Bernie in delegates? AGeddy Feb 2020 #22
I would maybe serve neopolitan at the next party. Kota Feb 2020 #34
The thing that most confuses people in online forums is math. Coming in second? Analogies. n/t thesquanderer Feb 2020 #35
Bernie, and his merrimakers... bobGandolf Feb 2020 #37
I will eat any ice cream sarisataka Feb 2020 #45
Kick... SidDithers Mar 2020 #48
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