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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:53 PM Feb 2020

Reality: Bernie has the best human rights and foreign policy record in the field. [View all]

There are people who won't care, because for them it's all about the "gotcha" of Bernie saying something positive about Cuba's literacy program (which Obama also said).

But for people who actually care about human rights, Bernie is hands down the best candidate. He opposed MFN with China. He's been the most critical of Saudi Arabia, and the US arming them. He's been the most anti-war candidate.

And then there's the elephant in the room: the US and regimes it has propped up. Nobody who cares about human rights can ignore this. The US-backed coup in Iran in 1953, in Chile in 1973, the death squads and terrorist groups the US supported throughout Latin America, nobody has been more critical of these actions by the US than Bernie. And then there's Israel, which has quite a poor human rights record, Bernie drew the ire of AIPAC by pointing out that Palestinians have human rights too, whereas nobody else the race will go anywhere near that.

It is true that Bernie is out of step with the "Beltway consensus" on foreign policy and human rights. That's because the Beltway consensus is crafted by people like David Frum and Max Boot, and either minimizes or completely ignores the role of the US in propping up murderous tyrants, particularly in Latin America.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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So How Is He On Gun Rights? Me. Feb 2020 #1
March for Our Lives co-founders just endorsed him, and he has a D- from the NRA. JudyM Feb 2020 #9
Three of them. Oh, and there's this as well. lapucelle Feb 2020 #27
There You Go Me. Feb 2020 #33
I don't see a need to completely end gun manufacture in the US... JudyM Feb 2020 #74
Wait...what? Your rhetorical question seems to imply that the NRA/RW talking point is true. lapucelle Feb 2020 #78
Some will be endorsing him, not all of them. George II Feb 2020 #64
How many cofounders are there? JudyM Feb 2020 #67
I don't know, but your except said "several of the co-founders", and one had already endorsed... George II Feb 2020 #68
Voted against the Brady Bill 5 TIMES. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #13
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And yet he voted against the Magnitsky Act Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #3
How do you rank him as "the most critical of Saudia Arabia"? And which murderous tyrant pnwmom Feb 2020 #4
NTSA. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #5
Sanders 3 month swing stat numbers vs Trump suck, that's what matters in the GE and after 3 months uponit7771 Feb 2020 #6
Actually, head to head polls this far out aren't very reliable nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #41
Historically this is false uponit7771 Feb 2020 #69
I await your evidence nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #70
Link to 2008 RCP Swing states inside, Obama's numbers didn't start changing till a shock event uponit7771 Feb 2020 #75
Haha WA-03 Democrat Feb 2020 #7
Thanks for posting this. zentrum Feb 2020 #8
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You think it's ok for a parent to let their child suffer? mcar Feb 2020 #11
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And now you mention wife beating. xmas74 Feb 2020 #21
I think someone who didn't pay child support xmas74 Feb 2020 #14
Oh but children need to suffer, xmas mcar Feb 2020 #15
Exactly nt xmas74 Feb 2020 #17
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If they were receiving services xmas74 Feb 2020 #18
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And now you're defensive of a deadbeat parent. xmas74 Feb 2020 #19
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+1 Me. Feb 2020 #35
Welp. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #24
Yep, children need to suffer because Earth mcar Feb 2020 #25
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If this is your position, you SHOULD be backing the candidate with the best record of real Squinch Feb 2020 #29
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Yes I know all that. But forgive me if I look at Bernie's record of climate accomplishments, in Squinch Feb 2020 #34
But He Did Get A Couple Of POst Offices Named Me. Feb 2020 #37
See, I get that post offices need to be named, and I DO have sympathy for all the Squinch Feb 2020 #39
Exactly The Point Me. Feb 2020 #44
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And your belief or disbelief is significant because....? Squinch Feb 2020 #43
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So you admit that Bernie has NEVER done anything for the environment. Thank you. Squinch Feb 2020 #49
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Well then please name anything Bernie has ever done for the environment. In 30 years in Congress. Squinch Feb 2020 #55
OOOh, THe You Betters Me. Feb 2020 #36
It appears someone has arrived to instruct us in our shortcomings. I'll get the popcorn. Squinch Feb 2020 #40
I Think I'll Just Assume My... Me. Feb 2020 #45
Looks like it didn't go well. Squinch Feb 2020 #59
Hah! Me. Feb 2020 #66
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Yes dear. That's it exactly. Squinch Feb 2020 #47
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Yes. You admitted that in 30 years in Congress, Bernie has NEVER done anything for the environment. Squinch Feb 2020 #51
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Oh. So Bernie HAS done something for the environment in 30 years in Congress? What was it? Squinch Feb 2020 #56
I'm in the mood for Pizza. n/t GP6971 Feb 2020 #57
Aaaaand... YOU GOT IT! Squinch Feb 2020 #60
And it's delicious!! n/t GP6971 Feb 2020 #61
Bernie can't do a damn thing about the problems you mention. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #31
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Quick drop in population and subsistence living? Good comeback. I happen to like electricity redstateblues Feb 2020 #58
He should run as an independant.... Historic NY Feb 2020 #76
Based on what? George II Feb 2020 #20
Cenk and Sirota told him so, they saw it in a krystal ball. nt Celerity Feb 2020 #62
Well played! George II Feb 2020 #63
ty, ty, I will be appearing at the Burning Bro Cafe all next week, 2 dollar Cuba libres all round Celerity Feb 2020 #65
Thank you for the laugh Moderateguy Feb 2020 #71
I strive to serve Celerity Feb 2020 #72
I don't fully agree with all his foreign policy stuff- still, I think he's generally good. David__77 Feb 2020 #28
Thank you for that reality check!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #52
"Record?" You mean of strongly worded statements and tweets? ehrnst Feb 2020 #73
Don't know about it all, but... ForEverGlades Feb 2020 #77
Bernie: betsuni Feb 2020 #79
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