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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:08 PM Jan 2020

One of the great things about the Rogan endorsement people miss. [View all]

Is that it accomplished two things at once. First, he got an endorsement from a non-ideological independent with a huge audience -- the very definition of expanding the tent and reaching swing voters.

But, second, he did it without compromising on principle and policy. And that's big.

So many politicians equivocate, calculate, and shift positions here and there to try to rack up endorsements and please constituencies. But that's not what happened here. Bernie was the same staunch LGBT ally he's been his whole career, and Rogan endorsed him despite disagreeing on things like trans rights. In fact, the very reason Rogan gave for the endorsement is just that: that Bernie's been so consistent and unwavering on his principles.

Don't get me wrong, I think calculating centrist Dems are doing God's work. Like with the Iraq War, it was obviously a horrible idea from the start, but at the time polls showed it was popular, and there was the risk of getting painted as weak on defense, so some Dems like Joe Biden voted for it. And I totally get it, he did what he had to do, we can't all be pure all the time, sometimes we have to be politically savvy, disastrous war or no disastrous war.

But it's better, and also more challenging, to get support from outside of progressives without actually compromising on principle or policy. And that's what Bernie accomplished here. Regardless of who anyone supports for the nomination, we should all be celebrating this, and let's hope the eventual nominee is also able to get support from outside the base without making compromises.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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No. Just no. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #1
Self Delete "undecided". nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #2
+++ still_one Jan 2020 #9
++++++++++++++ NCProgressive Jan 2020 #51
I think the greatest outcry is from those that don't like Sanders janterry Jan 2020 #3
Very disingenuous. Like you I support both Bernie and Liz. That are the two candidates who Autumn Jan 2020 #5
Calling people the N word and spreading lies about LBGQT people isn't okay Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #6
It is interesting, would they feel the same way with a KKK endorsement. A lot of still_one Jan 2020 #12
Sad isn't it?!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #17
Yes it is still_one Jan 2020 #19
I'm a fallibilist janterry Jan 2020 #24
+1,000. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #53
So why the rancor about Sanders? KPN Jan 2020 #28
But it was ok for Biden Buzz cook Jan 2020 #61
Sanders did not have to compromise his values to receive anti-trans bluedye33139 Jan 2020 #4
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #10
Right... he's just been promising things all along he knows, or should by now that will never Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #13
But you imply that embracing anti-trans activists is consistent with bluedye33139 Jan 2020 #15
+1000 I don't understand how anyone can support this?? Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #20
Promoting Rogan's endorsement compromises Sanders' principles, BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #7
Oh my...thank you!! A voice of sanity!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #8
Agreed. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #11
It sure is eye opening still_one Jan 2020 #16
I do not defend Rogan, I do and will defend Bernie. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #22
I don't think anyone on the board has. janterry Jan 2020 #27
One of them certainly will. Autumn Jan 2020 #29
Defend one defends the other. They're joined at the hip. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #32
You are wrong. They are no more joined at the hip than any other Democrat is joined at the hip Autumn Jan 2020 #34
Rogan supporting Sanders isn't the issue. It's Sanders supporting Rogan that is. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #35
+1 nt Fresh_Start Jan 2020 #36
With, or without blinders on? 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #54
No blinders... with eyes wide open. I have no problem having Bernie's back, I know he has mine. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #55
+++ still_one Jan 2020 #14
Of course it doesn't. That's absurd! DanTex Jan 2020 #18
How is a radio personality saying the N word and berating the LBGQT community any different Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #21
Promoting the endorsement of a racist, sexist, homophobe changes completely Sanders' message BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #30
Anyone can endorse a candidate. It's what the candidate does with that endorsement that matters. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #23
Food for thought... renegade000 Jan 2020 #25
Thank you!! Another voice of sanity Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #26
Some seem to think Sander's will get the nomination after this? Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2020 #31
He's a birther.... and has promoted Breitbart as a "source" ehrnst Jan 2020 #33
Yeah dig down a little deeper at that link Autumn Jan 2020 #37
Yeah, just ignore that Breitbart link while you're digging down... ehrnst Jan 2020 #39
Yeah, just ignore his explanation why he made the stupid joke in the twitter feed you posted. Autumn Jan 2020 #41
Promoting Breitbart.... yeah. Defending that? ehrnst Jan 2020 #42
I quit reading the twitter feed after I saw that post. I'm not interested in looking at anything Autumn Jan 2020 #44
Of course you're "not interested in looking" at something that's impossible to defend. ehrnst Jan 2020 #45
Why would I bother. I don't like shock comedians or shock jocks. He didn't endorse me and I have no Autumn Jan 2020 #46
Still dancing around the issue that Bernie is embracing the man saying those misogynistic ehrnst Jan 2020 #47
I responded to your tweet that he was a birther with the facts from snopes and him. Just beause Autumn Jan 2020 #48
Because of precisely the reasons I listed. ehrnst Jan 2020 #49
I'm not embarrassed at all. I really don't care, I know he will have no influence on Bernie. Autumn Jan 2020 #50
You're helping! kcr Jan 2020 #63
Accepting the endorsement and promoting it boomer_wv Jan 2020 #40
Let's see if you feel the same after seeing this. WARNING: Rogan is speaking unedited ehrnst Jan 2020 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #52
Thanks for letting us know where you stand on malignant misogyny. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #58
Thanks for showing exactly why Bernie is sticking by his man kcr Jan 2020 #62
Sickening. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #56
"Don't get me wrong, I think calculating centrist Dems are doing God's work." 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #59
My oh my, so much here that I disagree with. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #60
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