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Gothmog

(143,998 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:22 PM Jan 2020

Bernie Sanders's attack machine comes back to haunt him [View all]




She also recalled that Sanders in 2016 claimed she was “unqualified” although she “had a lot more experience than he did, and got a lot more done than he had, but that was his attack on me.” She warned, “I just think people need to pay attention because we want, hopefully, to elect a president who’s going to try to bring us together, and not either turn a blind eye, or actually reward the kind of insulting, attacking, demeaning, degrading behavior that we’ve seen from this current administration.”.

This comes on the heels of another flap in which Sanders publicly apologized to former vice president Joe Biden for his campaign sending around an op-ed accusing Biden of corruption — a rare moment of contrition for Sanders.

And in yet another blowup over Sanders’s honesty, his attempt to insinuate that Biden favored Social Security cuts (taking a sarcastic comment out of context) was rated false by pundits and fact-checkers. Paul Krugman of the New York Times blasted Sanders for this move: “The Sanders campaign has flat-out lied about things Biden said in 2018 about Social Security, and it has refused to admit the falsehood. This is bad; it is, indeed, almost Trumpian.”....

Warren wants to “fight” while Buttigieg wants to “bring people together.” Sanders thinks capitalism is crooked and capitalists are crooks; Klobuchar wants to be the president not for half of America, but for all of America. To some extent, this contrast is the difference between leading a movement where getting things done and making deals are irrelevant (or even a sign of weakness!) and trying to govern in the messy world of real politics wherein the other party will never vanish and disagreements will divide even one’s own party.

If Sanders is feeling the heat now, it is only because his critics and competitors are sick of giving him a free pass to present himself as an honest, pure idealist while playing Trumpian politics. Put differently, two women — Warren and now Clinton — have had enough of his thinly disguised misogyny.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Jennifer Rubin melman Jan 2020 #1
+1000 . lol Kurt V. Jan 2020 #2
Rubin is a Republican. Aaron Pereira Jan 2020 #36
All true melman Jan 2020 #37
A #NeverTrumper who wants him OUT. Cha Jan 2020 #117
A right-wing smear merchant who said this of President Obama... melman Jan 2020 #118
whoa Cha Jan 2020 #120
You beat me to it, Cha. At least she's honestly, Never Trump. nt Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #119
Has sanders actually joined the Democratic Party yet? Gothmog Jan 2020 #44
She hates Trump. She thinks Bernie can't beat Trump. redstateblues Jan 2020 #53
That's because RethugliKKKons fear Bernie the most!! It's obvious!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #78
... Skidmore Jan 2020 #82
Classic BS Move. Ignore Substance, Make Attack On Media TomCADem Jan 2020 #50
I didn't read it melman Jan 2020 #83
Lacks the racism and misogyny of many of Cenk's screeds. But he's a Left Wing hero now. ehrnst Jan 2020 #84
whataboutism mixed with straw man mixed with red herring melman Jan 2020 #85
Those terms you use... I don't think that they mean what you think they do... ehrnst Jan 2020 #86
Oh that is rich melman Jan 2020 #87
Perhaps you are confusing me with someone who said that piece "lacks racism?" ehrnst Jan 2020 #88
Not at all melman Jan 2020 #90
"Done here." ehrnst Jan 2020 #91
Look melman Jan 2020 #92
"I'm done here" Again? ehrnst Jan 2020 #94
Ok joni. brutus smith Jan 2020 #103
Ok joni. ehrnst Jan 2020 #104
Go read some more rubin op-eds. brutus smith Jan 2020 #106
Very sweet of you to come to melman's defense like that. ehrnst Jan 2020 #107
Say no more. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #77
Jennifer Rubin is Dead ON! Cha Jan 2020 #3
She's a conservative. is this where we are? Kurt V. Jan 2020 #6
What specifically is inaccurate? BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #11
i didn't bother to read it. why the hell would i. after trump she'll be calling dems socialist again Kurt V. Jan 2020 #20
I know Exactly who she is.. a #NEVERtrump. Cha Jan 2020 #15
never trumpers means they'll never take responsible for trump. Which they are. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #21
We need Allies in getting rid of trump. Cha Jan 2020 #24
well probably. but i can't hang my hat there. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #26
Don't care. Cha Jan 2020 #27
yes you do. :) Kurt V. Jan 2020 #29
No.. because we have work to do and Cha Jan 2020 #39
How entitled does someone have to be to 'splain to someone else what they *really* think? lapucelle Jan 2020 #76
Conservative or not she's speaking the truth!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #30
we're getting took by these wolves in sheeps clothing Kurt V. Jan 2020 #71
Ah yes... many want to pick and choose politically pure sources only. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #66
There is like one maybe two conservative voices worth the time. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #70
Apparently so. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #79
Certainly Cenk used to be a RWer....and very racist and misogynist. Expelled from Justice Dems even. ehrnst Jan 2020 #89
Where is she wrong on this, though... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #114
"Adjustments"? TiberiusB Jan 2020 #12
He said she was unqualified mcar Jan 2020 #4
His comment came after he was asked about Hillary's people calling him unqualified. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #13
It was "bad" for BS.. so is this.. Cha Jan 2020 #16
We could do better in the South, including with white southerners. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #18
BS:"That speaks to very bad work done by Democrats there." Cha Jan 2020 #19
Yep, he said that and as a Democrat I can live with it. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #22
BS is WRONG. Cha Jan 2020 #25
He isn't a dem..he's an independent. He's using the dem party to run his campaign as he did in 16 Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #31
Yes!! Always a slam against Dems from bernie Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #34
Always.. the title of Cha Jan 2020 #41
So? mcar Jan 2020 #33
My point is that is was an unfortunate tit-for-tat. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #35
No, Hillary never said he was unqualified. betsuni Jan 2020 #38
I didn't say Hillary said it, I said her people did. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #40
Again, there's more to the Clinton/Sanders "qualified to be President" dustup TiberiusB Jan 2020 #23
K&R betsuni Jan 2020 #5
Jennifer Rubin's hitting hard. Some here can't handle the truth. nt oasis Jan 2020 #7
Yes, the Common Dreams/Salon bubble has taken a beating today. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #9
Well said! To which I say.. Cha Jan 2020 #17
Second that!! 3rd and 4th it too!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #32
... mcar Jan 2020 #8
Classy PatSeg Jan 2020 #10
Perfect. betsuni Jan 2020 #14
So true MustLoveBeagles Jan 2020 #48
Giving Bernie a "free pass"???????????????????????? Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #28
sanders was such a weak candidate that he has never been vetted and was treated with kid gloves Gothmog Jan 2020 #43
Agreed AverageJoe Jan 2020 #58
It seems some Democratic candidates are more equal than others. jcmaine72 Jan 2020 #110
Like I said, no one, especially here on DU, has ever given Bernie a pass Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #67
The Rube hits it out of the park!!!! comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #42
Her analysis is spot on. In doling out honest criticism of Sanders, she shows she is certainly emmaverybo Jan 2020 #45
Hillary Clinton was correct to be worried about sanders' bogus attacks and lies on real Democrats Gothmog Jan 2020 #46
How Negative Is Sanders Willing to Go? Gothmog Jan 2020 #47
+1. And his staff has a long history of dirty tricks and subterfuge dalton99a Jan 2020 #49
What utter tripe AverageJoe Jan 2020 #51
NOPE. Not at all.. very spot on! Cha Jan 2020 #52
Embracing Republicans, Bashing Progressives AverageJoe Jan 2020 #54
sanders is such a weak general election candidate that trump will easily win 45+ states Gothmog Jan 2020 #57
Silly fear mongering AverageJoe Jan 2020 #61
NOPE.. Straight up FACTS Cha Jan 2020 #121
We're All Working to Get Rid of trump.. What do you think this is DOING? Cha Jan 2020 #63
The enemy of my enemy is my friend-I'll re-evaluate after we beat Trump redstateblues Jan 2020 #55
Why is Sanders your enemy? AverageJoe Jan 2020 #56
When why is sanders going so negative on other Democrats Gothmog Jan 2020 #60
Okay, real Democrat AverageJoe Jan 2020 #62
Why did sanders call for cuts to social security? Gothmog Jan 2020 #69
The thing that Bernie will not discuss. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #59
Thank you!! Politics is a very messy business. It's not about purity and governing just the far left Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #64
Yes he was. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #65
Thank you! betsuni Jan 2020 #74
His bullshit hasn't gone unnoticed. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #80
Why did sanders call for cuts to social security? Gothmog Jan 2020 #68
Bernie's true colors are being exposed NCProgressive Jan 2020 #72
Sanders is the new front runner AverageJoe Jan 2020 #73
Latest, not average. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #81
Damn Sraight! boo Cha Jan 2020 #75
"present himself as an honest, pure idealist while playing Trumpian R B Garr Jan 2020 #93
KARMA Cha Jan 2020 #97
Coming back to haunt him? Looks to me like it's propelling him to Number 1 position! m-lekktor Jan 2020 #95
Yep. Cha Jan 2020 #96
K&R Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #98
I believe Sanders' swiftboating of Hillary/Democrats in 2016 elected Trump. Hortensis Jan 2020 #99
I agree with your analysis Gothmog Jan 2020 #100
Just hoping blowback forces him to cut back. Hortensis Jan 2020 #108
+1 betsuni Jan 2020 #102
Well done. Cha Jan 2020 #112
i wonder when warren will be called a cooporate whore and dollar bills tossed at her...classy!! samnsara Jan 2020 #101
Same old tired story. brutus smith Jan 2020 #105
Sanders will have to fight dirty Gothmog Jan 2020 #109
Bernie has an attack machine? jcmaine72 Jan 2020 #111
The attacks by sanders supporters on this man disgust mr Gothmog Jan 2020 #113
Sanders' Social Security 'adjustments' undercut Biden attack Gothmog Jan 2020 #115
Yes, I'm looking for that OP now.. Thanks, Goth! Cha Jan 2020 #116
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