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Autumn

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Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:01 PM Jan 2020

Opinion: Democrats looked ready to unify. And then Hillary Clinton had to go and raise her hand [View all]

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-01-21/democrats-unify-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders

JAN. 21, 2020 12:21 PM
On Monday, the 2020 Democratic presidential candidates — who have run a pretty chill primary, all things considered — linked arms at a Martin Luther King Jr. Day rally in South Carolina. Their message was clear: Even as the race narrows and the Iowa caucuses loom, the field is joined in common purpose. Or enough common purpose to keep things civil.

It was a nice twenty-something hours. Because this morning, former candidate Hillary Clinton popped up to zing Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders — even demurring on whether she’d support him were he to win the nomination. In an upcoming Hulu series, Clinton says Sanders “was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done.” When asked if that assessment still holds, Clinton told the Hollywood Reporter, in an interview published this morning, “Yes, it does.”

It’s mind-boggling to see a woman against whom “likability” was so ably weaponized argue that Sanders is unlikable. It’s particularly absurd for Clinton, who was so frustrated by Sanders’ late support of her as the Democratic presidential nominee, to say that she’s unsure if she would support him should he get the nomination. (I’d vote for a sentient sock should it win the Democratic nomination, or even former Vice President Joe Biden, should it come to that, which is to repeat myself.) It’s wild to accuse a competitor’s campaign of relentless negativity while being relentlessly negative three years later about that same campaign.

Meanwhile, the current candidates, including Sanders, have largely kept their messages to the issues. When Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s campaign circulated the rumor that Sanders had said a woman could not win the presidency, Sanders denied the exchange, all while praising Warren as a candidate and a person — an exceptionally difficult line to walk. When a prominent Sanders supporter published an op-ed last week saying that Biden represented Washington, D.C., corruption, Sanders immediately went on television and said, “It is absolutely not my view that Joe is corrupt in any way. And I’m sorry that that op-ed appeared.”




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Already posted and subsequently eviscerated here: W_HAMILTON Jan 2020 #1
Yes, and I'm sure the OP knows that. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #17
Agreed. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #23
Yes, just DROP IT. apcalc Jan 2020 #34
Bernie had to apologize to Biden for a unifying act? dem4decades Jan 2020 #2
Yup... that was nice going!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #3
I will support the nominee of the party Gothmog Jan 2020 #4
I'm one of them calguy Jan 2020 #5
I dOn'T gEt ThE pOiNt. George II Jan 2020 #6
I trust Bernie, warts zentrum Jan 2020 #7
I don't. MoonRiver Jan 2020 #8
Neither Do I Horizens Jan 2020 #78
The funny thing is that the author Hav Jan 2020 #9
Strange how all this negative stuff broke just recently, when Sanders Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #10
Yeah that was noticeable. I was happy to see him and Liz arm in arm at the march and shaking hands. Autumn Jan 2020 #11
He's 4th in Iowa and not ahead in NH BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #18
A few days ago polls had him ahead in Iowa and betting sites are still predicting him to win there Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #19
He could win by 2 million votes and some folk would still say he's losing. Autumn Jan 2020 #25
Speaking of 4th... ChubbyStar Jan 2020 #22
democrats were ready to unfify? well that leaves one person out lol nt msongs Jan 2020 #12
Three simple points Progressive dog Jan 2020 #13
So let me help you with oen of those booley Jan 2020 #47
Even Bernie apologized for making those false claims Progressive dog Jan 2020 #75
Infighting Hands the Election to Trump McKim Jan 2020 #14
This is a message board, this is news, it will be posted. That's how message boards work. Autumn Jan 2020 #15
And I suppose we must have TWO threads on each of the more nonsensical articles. Squinch Jan 2020 #28
Yeah, it happens. I notice some you have no complaints about so there's that. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #29
Ahh. So not only is it personal, but it's all about me, then? Ok. You go with that. Squinch Jan 2020 #43
Not about you at all. You only cross my mind when you respond to something I post, then Autumn Jan 2020 #44
Moderates seem to only want unity if their candidate wins Tiggerbay Jan 2020 #16
Irony is dead. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #32
Oh I hope not. Irony is one of my most favorite tingly things. fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #40
So Hillary would rather support Ghost Dog Jan 2020 #20
Yeah, that's what she said. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #31
Ha! LOL. fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #41
or imply she would support no one booley Jan 2020 #48
Oh come on... radical noodle Jan 2020 #72
She didn't say that she might not support Sanders if he is the nominee. StevieM Jan 2020 #76
That piece really downplays the divisiveness created by the Sanders campaign. That's been highplainsdem Jan 2020 #21
Whatever. No apology from Bernie would be enough for some. Autumn Jan 2020 #24
How impressed would you be by an apology and denial of responsibility from a rival who employed highplainsdem Jan 2020 #30
And when has he actually apologized for anything, ever? BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #60
I don't know of anyone trashed by a former politician that has apologized to that person Autumn Jan 2020 #61
So, the answer is "no, Sanders has never apologized" for the divisive things he has said & done. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #65
Since you don't get it. I'll clear it up for you. Sanders does not owe Clinton an apology. Autumn Jan 2020 #67
Talk about not "getting" it ... BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #68
... mcar Jan 2020 #26
I wish she would just stay out of it... Omen78 Jan 2020 #27
I agree, she should stay out of it. Bluepinky Jan 2020 #53
I am always interested in what Hillary Clinton has to say. I am very glad that she comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #62
I agree with Clinton, but the suggestion that she wouldn't support Bernie as nominee was a faux pas. Beakybird Jan 2020 #33
Sander has no reason to complain as his campaign has folks who didn't vote for the nominee in 16. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39
Hello! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #74
Clinton say she has grown worried that attacks fromSanders'campaign could hurt the future Democrats Gothmog Jan 2020 #35
She was a lot rougher on Obama than Bernie was on her. Autumn Jan 2020 #36
She and Bill worked their hearts out for Obama in 08 and Bill did in 12...she couldn't as was SOS. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #38
We did not survive his attacks on her and the party in 2016 though. brush Jan 2020 #77
Bull. The electoral college gave Trump the presidency. He got the states that were considered the Autumn Jan 2020 #79
Yeah, sure. Ask yourself if his campaign-long attacks on the party and his late... brush Jan 2020 #80
Opinion...Sanders campaign has been lying about Biden...there was no unity... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #37
Well, ain't this an interesting karma laden twist. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #42
This is beginning to look like Sanders' Bridge Too Far moment. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #45
Clinton is just stating facts and details. R B Garr Jan 2020 #46
LOL booley Jan 2020 #50
This is just a lead in question about 2016, so I'll R B Garr Jan 2020 #52
"Hillary Clinton who?" booley Jan 2020 #49
Bernie has always taken the high road. Funny how these things always rise when he goes up in Autumn Jan 2020 #51
Autumn was ready to unify, and we blew it. Hortensis Jan 2020 #54
If by Autum you mean me, I'm not ready to unify. I'll do that when the primary is over. What I won't Autumn Jan 2020 #56
Yes, those headlines are the hooks that get us, aren't they? Hortensis Jan 2020 #63
How were the Dems supposed to "unify" when Sanders isn't one? Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #55
What the fuck was your unity pledge that Bernie signed stating that he was running as a Democrat Autumn Jan 2020 #57
Some "unity"... He's been working against the Dems from the start Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #58
Which in no way has anything to do with him being a Democrat. I will be fine when he goes back to Autumn Jan 2020 #59
You grossly overestimate your boy's chances Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #64
He's not my boy. Nasty dog whistle though. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #66
It's called AAVE -- Look it up? Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #70
No, as a POC my worlds not white.It's not my fault you didn't like what I have to say.. so farewell Autumn Jan 2020 #71
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #69
Bull shit! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #73
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