Democratic Primaries

TheRealNorth

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59. As someone coming from a family of Milwaukee Socialists

Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:55 PM

Jan 2020

I find your comment truly offensive.

Keep it up if you want to drive Bernie Supporters away from Biden should Biden win the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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It's Bernie, not Biden, who has the electability problem [View all] Gothmog Jan 2020 OP

Everybody has their own opinion. James48 Jan 2020 #1

I want to defeat trump Gothmog Jan 2020 #3

We're supposed to take the word of a loser? Scotch-Irish Jan 2020 #106

He's Not the only one who feels this way.. Cha Jan 2020 #192

Yes, me too!! Bernie is the only electable candidate, as he's the only one who speaks to the base InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #11

The base of what? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #28

Bernie speaks ro those who recognize the system has been corrupted ArcticFox Jan 2020 #93

Nah. The "base" isn't those who attack our party as "corrupt." The Valley Below Jan 2020 #98

Great. Stick with the denial. ArcticFox Jan 2020 #107

You are slandering the Democratic Party. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #108

Bull ArcticFox Jan 2020 #115

You can't fix it with somebody who ain't going to win the election! NBachers Jan 2020 #134

YES, PRECISELY WHY BERNIE, NOT JOE, SHOULD BE THE DEMOCRAT WE NOMINATE TO RUN AGAINST DOLT45!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #165

Did you think Hillary would win? ArcticFox Jan 2020 #168

Remember Nader voters who refused to vote for Gore, but kept their "principles & ideals" intact? NBachers Jan 2020 #176

but no ones base alone is whats going to win the nom or the election... samnsara Jan 2020 #37

Who, pray tell me is his base? He is a spoiler who cost Hilary the election. olegramps Jan 2020 #55

Just a note Normanart Jan 2020 #64

nonsense Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #79

The electoral college DID cost Hillary the election, as she herself admitted... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #118

If you believe he can eliminate Electoral College you are seriously uninformed. olegramps Jan 2020 #181

Only? what in the FUCK ...DEAR GOD Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #78

Please put down the pennants and pompoms for a minute and explain who the "base" is, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #100

+1000000000000 emmaverybo Jan 2020 #160

right on!! olegramps Jan 2020 #182

He's not speaking to the Democratic Party's base mcar Jan 2020 #149

Any Dem needs more than the base. Repugs will paint Sanders 24/7... brush Jan 2020 #157

Bernie Brewh Jan 2020 #57

Nice having you aboard Brewh!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #119

The OP cited facts to suggest a reasonable inference, that Bernie, not Biden is the one with an emmaverybo Jan 2020 #101

ME TOO!! WELCOME ABOARD THE BERNIE BULLET TRAIN!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #143

It Always Strikes Me As Odd Me. Jan 2020 #2

I think we should embrace former Republicans. We need a lot more of them. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #91

In the GE I see it the other way around and I've seen nothing to convince me otherwise. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #4

I am sure you haven't...any evidence which by the way is plentiful...would be ignored. You support Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #12

I believe our best hope to take the White House and get rid of Trump is Bernie or Liz. Autumn Jan 2020 #14

I completely agree Locrian Jan 2020 #56

Manufactured? By the media/corporates? LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #67

Biden has very thin skin when it comes to his son as most parents are. Trump, Pukes and the media Autumn Jan 2020 #111

ANOTHER great point! Bernie doesn't let ANYTHING get to him, not even a heart attack for damn sake!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #141

NO.. Biden is Tough. Cha Jan 2020 #190

Joe's chances of beatin tRumpty Dumbty, puttin Joe's questionable voting record aside, are far less InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #120

Former VP has a well of good will to draw from Tweedy Jan 2020 #195

I would not call poll results "evidence." totodeinhere Jan 2020 #94

YES WE KNOW!! IF POLLS WERE ACCURATE, HILLARY WOULD HAVE BEATEN DOLT45 IN A LANDSLIDE!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #122

NO QUESTION!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #13

You cannot prove a negative. The question is, what evidence makes you see the other way around? beastie boy Jan 2020 #16

I think that Joe's temperament will be a real problem in the GE when Trump goes after him. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #19

Can you point to any evidence that Bernie will do better? beastie boy Jan 2020 #20

For one I haven't seen Bernie go after a Democratic activist who worked on Obama's campaign Autumn Jan 2020 #23

One more thing: absence of evidence is not evidence. beastie boy Jan 2020 #24

Nice that you ask a question and ignore the factual answer because you don't like it. Autumn Jan 2020 #26

I like the answer, in a funny way, but it is n ot the answer to my question. beastie boy Jan 2020 #27

I gave an opinion on the electability of Bernie, Liz and Joe in the GE based on a current event Autumn Jan 2020 #34

Since post #16, post #20 and post #24. All of them asking for evidence. All of them you responded to beastie boy Jan 2020 #36

YOU responded to me with your request for evidence of my opinion. Autumn Jan 2020 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author beastie boy Jan 2020 #44

In post #19 I responded to you with my opinion. I see no reason, I have no need to Autumn Jan 2020 #47

Ummm... no. You didn't go to # 16 beastie boy Jan 2020 #50

And dismissively rolling on the floor laugh at anyone who disagrees or questions them. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #83

Joe's temperament?? Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #45

ROTFLMFAO!! GOOD ONE AUTUMN!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #146

Autumn...you say a Democratic activist? pfeiffer Jan 2020 #48

He's an activist who volunteered on Obama's campaign. He was hired by Bernie AFTER Trump told him Autumn Jan 2020 #51

Excellent point! Joe's temperament gets him in trouble & is the source of so many of his gaffes. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #129

Bernie hasn't challenged anyone to a push-up contest yet BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #53

Maybe Bernie feels too old to be President... beastie boy Jan 2020 #95

True, though even a heart attack has not slowed Bernie down in the slightest... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #132

Go back and look at Joe's VP debates. Watch Joe's floor-mopping demonstration. NBachers Jan 2020 #136

How long ago were those debates? Autumn Jan 2020 #137

Sure haven't seen any "floor-mopping" demonstrations by Joe in the Democratic primary debates. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #142

just pinky swear to vote for the dem nom even if its a damn loaf of bread... samnsara Jan 2020 #38

We'll never know, since he won't be involved in the general election, unless of course he........... George II Jan 2020 #130

Yeah George. Whatever. Autumn Jan 2020 #135

Whenever I need my beltway CW fix Jennifer Rubin is there BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #5

Bernie ran for President in 2016 ritapria Jan 2020 #6

Many people wanted Joe to run in 2016 PatSeg Jan 2020 #8

All of this +1 LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #10

yes joe would have won in 2016.... samnsara Jan 2020 #39

I've thought so for a long time PatSeg Jan 2020 #49

So Joe would have beat out Hillary. Interesting. brutus smith Jan 2020 #76

NOT A SNOWBALL'S CHANCE IN HELL!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #126

No way Joe could EVER have beaten Hillary in ANY race they both competed in. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #125

Joe Biden never lost a single primary. Remember, Biden had a long distinguished Senate career.... George II Jan 2020 #9

He dropped out in 88 ... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #21

No explanation is necessary. He never lost a single primary. Not one. George II Jan 2020 #22

how far back is 1987?..even 2008 is ancient history..im sure all the candidates can be... samnsara Jan 2020 #40

The game here melman Jan 2020 #68

He's pretending the one percent showing in... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #105

By my count, Joe lost the Democratic primary elections in 1988 & 2008; thats 2 primary races he lost InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #138

CUTE MALARKEY, YES!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #133

He wasn't elected VP, he was appointed. brutus smith Jan 2020 #80

He was on the ticket that people voted for. He was elected. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #89

YOU BEAT ME TO IT... THANK YOU!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #144

So if we nominate a Sanders/Warren ticket, then we get a team. TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #153

Biden was part of a TEAM who was ELECTED. Cha Jan 2020 #150

Joe didn't run for VP, Obama appointed him to the ticket. brutus smith Jan 2020 #164

BOOOOOOOOMMM!!!! There's a good reason Biden lost the 1988 and 2008 primary elections he ran in... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #15

lmao you're bordering on parody right now. Drunken Irishman Jan 2020 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #92

you dislike biden so much....actually as much as I dislike BS..but I will swear to vote.. samnsara Jan 2020 #41

Asked and answered DOZENS of times...though many here will pretend not to know. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #123

Which primary election has Biden lost? I'll answer that - NONE! George II Jan 2020 #170

Oh snap! LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #90

Here's the conclusion from Ms Rubin: comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #7

Spot on. Nt BootinUp Jan 2020 #140

Would not be surprised if Bernie is target during upcoming debate Zeus69 Jan 2020 #17

Lol. Jennifer Rubin is a right wing hack. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #18

I know right ? They love to hold up Republicans views as how we should vote. bahrbearian Jan 2020 #30

Jennifer Rubin has been excellent and this proves you are not being objective. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #33

She's not excellent at all melman Jan 2020 #73

Which of her statements do you consider to be factually incorrect? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #82

The supporters for each of the Dem Prez candidates have seemed most reasonable, however, . . . empedocles Jan 2020 #29

Bernie self identifying as a Socialist is completely disqualifying !!! THE END. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #31

As someone coming from a family of Milwaukee Socialists TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #70

I come from a family of realists and it's disqualifying for a General Election. Come on man! nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #112

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #163

Pls. face political reality. brush Jan 2020 #162

I would also add TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #60

So you are essentially saying that I would vote for dump. UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #117

I understand the electability argument TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #161

It's not that Socialists are not acceptable it's what the Rs will do with it yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #102

Agreed. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #114

A DEMOCRATIC socialist...in the mold of FDR. Bernie is moving the Democratic Party back to its roots InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #124

trump would destroy sanders in a general election Gothmog Jan 2020 #186

K & R SunSeeker Jan 2020 #32

It's math-if someone can't win a primary, they can't win a general election dlk Jan 2020 #35

They both have electability problems. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #43

I think both Biden and Sanders have electability problems... DCofVA Jan 2020 #46

Biden is the only Democrats who can pick up both Florida and Virginia Gothmog Jan 2020 #54

The current polls are useless DCofVA Jan 2020 #71

Too early to know that for sure. And current polls don't take possible Republican shenanigans totodeinhere Jan 2020 #96

I could live with President Warren!! Both Elizabeth AND Bernie have FAR LESS baggage than Joe!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #145

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #52

"little"? What polls? marble falls Jan 2020 #61

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #66

All I see on your link is Bernie vs Trump, and Trump leads in some ... marble falls Jan 2020 #110

The Republican "socialist" attacks on Bernie would be relentless. CaptainTruth Jan 2020 #58

I said a LONG time ago, show me who has the best chance of beating the FASCIST KILLER Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #62

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #63

Don't smear Democrats. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author geretogo Jan 2020 #72

You capitalize Fascist but not democrat? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author geretogo Jan 2020 #77

Smearing great liberal Democrats like Joe Biden as "Republican lite" The Valley Below Jan 2020 #84

We don't attack members, either. marble falls Jan 2020 #113

Bernie would call himself a Progressive, a Liberal, and a Sloumeau Jan 2020 #104

So Democrats and Republicans are alike. marble falls Jan 2020 #116

There is no candidate that I can see that has an electability problem. nt yaesu Jan 2020 #69

I don't think that with any of the present front-runners... mwooldri Jan 2020 #75

Bernie can't win in a national election... dubyadiprecession Jan 2020 #81

That's what they said about Hillary too. We have to more than just beat tRump. We need a landslide KPN Jan 2020 #85

Exactly. I am very skeptical of know-it-all political pundits when they were so sure that totodeinhere Jan 2020 #88

ANSWER: FUCK NO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #139

.... KPN Jan 2020 #151

Yep Wawannabe Jan 2020 #86

I think that Bernie is looking past today's polls and he feels that he could run a more totodeinhere Jan 2020 #87

Wise words... welcome aboard!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #127

No, this isn't accurate at all janterry Jan 2020 #97

Did you know Jennifer Rubin wanted John Bolton to run for president? melman Jan 2020 #99

Context? TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #109

She wanted John Bolton to run for president melman Jan 2020 #121

I can easily see where that tweet might be sarcasm. TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #152

It's not sarcasm melman Jan 2020 #154

Okay then, where is the context for the tweet? TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #155

The context is she's a right winger who tweets right wing shit melman Jan 2020 #156

Okay then, I'm not persuaded. TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #159

The context was she was being sarcastic. George II Jan 2020 #172

In that case TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #173

Jennifer Rubin is an astute, intelligent woman. Surely she wasn't serious about Bolton running.... George II Jan 2020 #174

Wow, 2011. That's like 8-9 years old. Considering she's got 91,000 tweets, that's a lot of digging. George II Jan 2020 #128

Nothing that happened before last week matters melman Jan 2020 #131

Interesting. She joined twitter in November 2010 and has posted 91,000 tweets since.... George II Jan 2020 #171

From 2016 melman Jan 2020 #178

Here's a fun column from 2014 melman Jan 2020 #179

When the convention is over, what are YOU going to do? yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #103

I'll be voting the DEMOCRATIC nominee into office... President Bernie Sanders!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #148

i don't give much thought to republicans opinion. Actually zero. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #147

LESS THAN ZERO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #166

LESS THAN ZERO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #167

That Republican lady Rubin...the Never Trump Republican! Stellar Jan 2020 #169

Younger Voters...... colsohlibgal Jan 2020 #175

Anyone who thinks Medicare is Socialism doesn't understand the term LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #177

The last time we experimented with a close to Bernie and Liz candidate was in 1972-George McGovern. Gothmog Jan 2020 #180

Obama campaign guru: Trump would love to run against Bernie Gothmog Jan 2020 #183

They all have an electability problem democrattotheend Jan 2020 #184

This is a major Republican chaos operation staring to divide the democrats at every level Gothmog Jan 2020 #185

GOP support of sanders show that he is the weakest candidate Gothmog Jan 2020 #187

The GOP really wants to run against the weakest possible candidate Gothmog Jan 2020 #188

Trump would destroy sanders Gothmog Jan 2020 #189

Sanders is a very weak general election candidate Gothmog Jan 2020 #191

UAW Past President Sees It Differently corbettkroehler Jan 2020 #193

Data Reveals A Moderate Democrat Is The Best Chance To Beat Trump Gothmog Jan 2020 #194