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Demsrule86

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206. Some have left the GOP because of Trump. This is the lowest number of

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:44 AM

Mar 2019

Republicans ever. We won GOP votes in the midterm and if we are ever going to win 60 votes in the Senate we have to have a 50 state strategy and go after all votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Electoral College Map...we need a centrist candidate to win the rustbelt to stop Trump. [View all] Demsrule86 Mar 2019 OP

Of course...but it's not popular to say. Socal31 Mar 2019 #1

If you look at this map without a candidate who can attract rustbelt voters we lose. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #2

There's a long way to go. Socal31 Mar 2019 #4

Look at the map. It is there in detail...you have to win the rustbelt...a debate isn't going to Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #5

Gross over-simplification. Socal31 Mar 2019 #8

It is a simple thing...we need to attract rustbelt voters in order to win the presidency in every Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #18

Last time we had a centrist candidate Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #32

Wrong a centrist candidate didn't lose. A candidate who was beat up before the general Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #57

OK let's go with your logic Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #90

Clinton was the only candidate who could win a general Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #136

+1 Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #149

ZING!!! No more centrists... it's time a true progressive, like Bernie, had a turn InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #255

I do not believe Bernie can win a general. If I did, I would vote for him... Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #287

That's fair, guess we just disagree.I'll take my chances w/ a progressive over a centrist every time InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #289

Exactly, all those breathless TPP exclamations were really R B Garr Mar 2019 #115

Yes..so now we have a gifted Democratic presidential who Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #137

I can't for the life of me understand TheFarseer Mar 2019 #188

She wasn't an incumbent, was she?! artislife Apr 2019 #348

"Last time we had a centrist candidate." borgesian Mar 2019 #123

Not accurate, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #138

So someone to the right of Clinton. borgesian Mar 2019 #153

We are talking about 2020. It will be different this time. We need someone who can appeal to the Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #164

Someone who is not far left...a progressive can win. But our issues are important ...we run on the Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #179

She was widely MFM008 Mar 2019 #329

She was demonized by THE GOP for years and of course during 16 as well, she was the first Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #330

People who live in the rustbelt won't vote for far left or a socialist list in a general. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #269

+1. The EC allows the swing states to pick the POTUS. treestar Mar 2019 #266

Yes they do. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #268

You are right demosincebirth Mar 2019 #328

Simple facts don't require complicated verbage! at140 Mar 2019 #84

My verbiage is simple. You twist the words because you want to believe the Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #140

You are the authority on what appeals to the rust belt? Agschmid Mar 2019 #63

I live in Ohio...so yeah I know people in the rustbelt...I have worked elections for years too. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #76

Yes I did sacto95834 Mar 2019 #105

Clinton was not a moderate and she entered the General badly damaged Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #141

I'm going take this as a joke... sacto95834 Mar 2019 #169

Everyone (who wins) moves right in a general...she didn't win but it is the only play in a Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #175

Unfortunately Hillary's unfavorables were too high Sugarcoated Mar 2019 #185

I think joe has moved left too. But has credibility with Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #214

I've heard and read, can't remember where, Sugarcoated Mar 2019 #226

I think that is accurate. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #245

No it didn't escape my notice, but also look at who the rust belt actually voted for... Agschmid Mar 2019 #112

We don't need a centrist, we need a transformative candidate. marylandblue Mar 2019 #3

That is not possible in time for 20. It will take years. And if Trump re-elected,we are screwed Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #6

What's not possible for 2020? Getting a President and Congress who can really get things done? marylandblue Mar 2019 #12

What we need mostly is Trump gone and in order to select judges the Senate...but the most important Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #22

I hope we get both the Senate and the house...but looking at the map...a Senate win Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #80

Reagan lost once zaj Mar 2019 #45

We can't afford to lose the next election.Ginsberg is not going to last another four years- I fear. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #81

or at least 6 to 3 for the next 30 years...n/t Moostache Mar 2019 #111

That is a nightmare, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #124

To be honest, there never was a "liberal coalition", there was a left-leaning coalition. Remember.. George II Mar 2019 #280

If we get Trump out, we can take steps to minimize the damage. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #285

O.K. I'll bite....centrist how? doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #7

Biden can win the general...he can win in the states we need. Beto has a shot. Amy klobachar has a Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #11

I don't think Mayor Pete is as big a risk as it appears. marylandblue Mar 2019 #16

We don't know that for sure. It is a risk...I think about the Bradley effect. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #23

In that sense, almost all of our candidates are risks marylandblue Mar 2019 #27

That is a good point. However, picking a far left candidate will undoubtedly lead to a loss. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #31

The thing is TheRealNorth Mar 2019 #64

I am not attacking anyone...but if you run a candidate who is for reparations, basic income, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #83

You're not totally wrong but i have to say TheFarseer Mar 2019 #189

Medicare for all has a 17% approval if workplace insurance goes away. It would Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #195

But you're using republican framing TheFarseer Mar 2019 #227

Those are awesome Republican framing/talking points you've got there. doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #265

We must win. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #270

Did not answer my question... doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #24

I said everyone. I would vote for Sen Sanders whom I dislike if I thought he could beat Trump. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #61

Right on all points. We can't trust next year's election in the hands of someone who won't attract.. George II Mar 2019 #281

Trump hurts the groups you mention far worse than any of the Democrats. And if you look at the map, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #15

O.K. my question still stands... doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #20

Everyone...no one ever gets everything they want...and getting Trump out is all that matters. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #25

Not a socialist. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #143

Aaahhh...I see what you did there. doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #264

Haha...it varies ...some one that is progressive but in a big tent middle kind of way Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #271

Like Hillary was? (n/t) doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #273

You are wrong. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #9

The only point of this election is to get Donald Trump out. He is a threat to country and the Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #13

You are not hearing me. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #21

You won't get our people out in the rustbelt states with a far left candidate and you will lose the Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #26

Please define our people. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #30

Democrats in the rustbelt tend to be moderate and we need independents...consider that we took back Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #34

I wonder if John Crawford would agree with you. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #38

Oh please Moderate Democrats want to stop police shootings of POC...and it will get Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #65

True! True Blue American Mar 2019 #232

What is an "ascendant electorate"? And the OP was talking about our candidate, not electorate. George II Mar 2019 #279

Couldn't said it any better exboyfil Mar 2019 #10

I like Amy a great deal... Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #17

AZ might be in play with the right nominee but don't count on it Bradshaw3 Mar 2019 #139

Maybe our candidate will decide to visit Wisconsin during exboyfil Mar 2019 #144

Agree that old fashioned campaigning is needed Bradshaw3 Mar 2019 #163

We won the Senate seat and MCsally lost once. This shows how a good Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #145

Senate and off-year is different than presidential Bradshaw3 Mar 2019 #162

If we run a good candidate we mght get coattails. McSally still has lukewarm support IMHO. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #177

I would just point out that Buttigieg is NOT particularly centrist dawg day Mar 2019 #14

That is untrue all three PA, WI and MI elected a Democratic governor in statewide races Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #28

Up to 375 Electoral Votes earthside Mar 2019 #19

It is not about popular vote or polls ....look at the states that always go Republican...he could Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #29

The Democrat will win. earthside Mar 2019 #219

I hope you are right. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #247

Can we get the Popular Vote Compact enacted before 2020? SHRED Mar 2019 #33

Only blue states have done this...which is so stupid it makes my teeth ache...we lose Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #41

New Deal/ American System Luvapottamus Mar 2019 #35

I agree with everything you say...although Tariffs are more complicated these day. Trump's tariffs Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #42

Yes they are Luvapottamus Mar 2019 #168

I agree completely. The patent idea is brilliant. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #176

Tariffs Luvapottamus Mar 2019 #224

I agree Trump hurt manufacturing with his tariffs. It is complicated Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #246

Glad the convention is in Milwaukee. I hope the candidates show up in these states. 33taw Mar 2019 #36

Absolutely we need a grass roots effort in every state. I have long admired Dean's 50 state Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #44

I live in a red county in rural WI. When we promote our values, we do really well. 33taw Mar 2019 #107

A national election will involve party. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #122

Texas would solve a lot of problems. ucrdem Mar 2019 #37

I find that highly improbable. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #40

It's happened before. ucrdem Mar 2019 #46

It could happen. It is an honor to have a president from your state...and Beto almost defeated Cruz. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #55

Virginia was improbable too ...until it wasn't. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #286

We can't count on Texas even if Beto is on the ticket. But I believe he would help in the rustbelt. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #47

BETO being on the ticket in any form is highly unlikely. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #51

I disagree. Hd is my second choice after Biden. I think he could win. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #68

It's a great position for him (and us). John Fante Mar 2019 #236

He would help in Ohio for sure. ucrdem Mar 2019 #53

That would be a great ticket for the rustbelt and if we win Ohio, Trump is toast Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #69

I'm not sure how a man who lost to Ted Cruz can carry Texas. Autumn Mar 2019 #52

Well he would have more stature than he did last year ucrdem Mar 2019 #60

Yes he's more known, but I don't see how that would make a win against Trump a sure thing. Autumn Mar 2019 #66

Having a president that comes from your state is a very prestigious thing... so I think it could Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #70

trump could easily win 2020 unless we select an electable candidate Gothmog Mar 2019 #39

For fuck's sake how does someone like trump get elected Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #43

Look at the electoral college map. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #50

Most POTUS are re-elected for second term unless the economy is bad Gothmog Mar 2019 #58

That is true too. Although his economic policies particularly the steel tariffs and the China tariff Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #72

From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Mar 2019 #79

The thing is the economy is not great in Ohio. We have lost more auto /parts plants from Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #93

That is my point. I hear people basically saying anyone can beat Trump...that is not true. It will Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #48

And Republicans will do everything to protect their idiot. dalton99a Mar 2019 #71

That is clear. These folks don't care about the country. Trump is a traitor but he is their Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #73

I agree Gothmog Mar 2019 #298

He could win if we choose a candidate that moves too far left in a primary. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #306

We had a centrist candidate last time. shanny Mar 2019 #49

Yep, and unfortunately, the rabid attack from the far left will probably hurt this time too LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #56

"the far left" shanny Mar 2019 #59

I don't know what else you could call the socialists, but it's sad that you're amused by this LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #62

we have social democrats, not socialists shanny Mar 2019 #229

Jill Stein is far left. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #159

Really? shanny Mar 2019 #172

The Green Party has NO Credibility. In those critical SWING STATES, the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE still_one Mar 2019 #181

Sorry, but in a democracy people get to vote for whomever they please. shanny Mar 2019 #196

Here is Hillary's voting record. You made no case. That is the typial green party all or nothing still_one Mar 2019 #198

your ignorance of how Obama considered himself tells me all I need to know about your perspective. shanny Mar 2019 #230

No, your ignorance astonds me. It is where a person stands on the issues still_one Mar 2019 #262

If stein hadn't of LIED her Fucking head OFF Cha Mar 2019 #258

Why would anyone BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #276

Maybe because I wasn't. shanny Mar 2019 #294

You're Absolutely Right, stillone. Stein's RF LIES Cha Mar 2019 #259

It was stein's RF Fucking LIES about Hillary Cha Mar 2019 #257

This is exactly how it happened n/t BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #295

Meanwhile, adjectives such corporatist, establishment, centrist, third-way, and elitist TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #204

If you mean back-stabbing by some of our politicians, I agree. eom shanny Mar 2019 #218

No, back-stabbing does not apply to only politicians. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #231

HRC was first to push single payer! at140 Mar 2019 #91

HRC was not a centrist she was demonized by the far far green slime left and the Republicans Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #94

She was perceived as such BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #103

That is such nonsense...she lost in rustbelt states where centrists win...She faced a two Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #106

Centrism schmentrism, she lost where people were most desperate for change BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #125

She lost because of NAFTA. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #127

Way back in 1945 Harry Truman pushed for a national health insurance plan, shanny Mar 2019 #116

No we need clean elections and that the people can vote and their votes will be counted. Botany Mar 2019 #54

Look at the map in the red states we are going to lose more than likely so we must shore up Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #75

I am sick of bringing a gun to a knife fight. Botany Mar 2019 #128

I know but we can only fix this by winning states. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #130

I understand but to win those states we need to push 24/7 the following: Botany Mar 2019 #135

What you say about Lordstown is untrue. And you need the rustbelt Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #146

I don't know if we need a 'centerist' or not, but I do know a socialist comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #67

Indeed. I actuall prefer moderate...because moderates hold progressive views in many cases Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #74

Nope - I say we find the right progressive Democrat Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #77

You need someone who can win the rustbelt...a radical progressive will surely lose. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #89

Is this the same rust belt that rejected Paul Wellstone? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #118

House seats are not statewide. BROWN WAS AN INCUMBENT Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #120

Feingold ran stand pat campaigns BlueWI Mar 2019 #190

I don't agree. Feingold's loss shows Sanders would not have won a general Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #202

A couple of points. BlueWI Mar 2019 #211

Feingold Johnson happened in16 . So this blows a big hole in your theory. that Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #239

You're right about the second Feingold-Johnson election BlueWI Mar 2019 #274

And it says to me if Feingold loss Sanders likely would have lost too. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #291

And wellstone was years ago-different time. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #129

All were elected the first time years ago. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #305

Yeah, I guess you're right Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #308

We don't want to give Trump for more years so yeah play it safe. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #310

There are no radical progressives in this race. John Fante Mar 2019 #303

There are some who can easily be painted that way, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #304

Conservatives painted Obama as a marxist socialist communist. It didn't John Fante Mar 2019 #307

Obama was good at messaging, so it was hard to pin that label on him marylandblue Mar 2019 #309

Trump is better at it and we don't have an economic debacle and president with 28 % Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #311

More 4D chess crap. I'm pretty much done here. John Fante Mar 2019 #322

Just a Friendly Reminder: Russian Meddling Easily Flipped Enough Votes in Three States in 2016. malchickiwick Mar 2019 #78

And we will face that again I think. However, Jill Stein took enough votes to have Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #87

I disagree. I think EW's message will resonate in the Midwest. malchickiwick Mar 2019 #99

We lose two Senate seats under that scenario. I think EW has been demonized as Hillary was and will Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #102

She will be East Coast and is a bad fit for the rustbelt. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #209

Jill Stein didn't get centrist votes. KPN Mar 2019 #326

the candidate that generates the most enthusiasm, which translates directly to votes, Kurt V. Mar 2019 #82

No...that electoral college map says otherwise. We have a narrow path to victory...thus Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #85

did you look at that website's final 2016 prediction. It's embarrassing. Kurt V. Mar 2019 #109

I merely wanted to try the map...wining states and can seeing Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #126

we're all in to beat the orange menace. thanks for posting Kurt V. Mar 2019 #134

I want Trump gone...yellow dog voting time! Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #151

NONE OF OUR CANDIDATES ARE CENTRIST!!! Amimnoch Mar 2019 #86

I agree with everything you say. Perhaps I should say perceived centrist...those who can run Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #95

Thank you :) Amimnoch Mar 2019 #97

I like Beto too. He is my second choice...honestly I am pretty much liking him Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #100

Agreed on "centrists" TwilightZone Mar 2019 #160

I think you make a good point but I don't think it is an absolute point. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #88

Always better to leave room for the big picture general. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #96

Um, no. Just, no. Before everyone loses their shit about our need for a centrist... SKKY Mar 2019 #92

Look at the map. It is not about the number of votes but how the electoral college works. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #98

Exactly. 80K votes, spread across 3 states, that would have flipped the election... SKKY Mar 2019 #114

Incumbency has its advantages. Thus we need to select our candidate carefully, .. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #191

Meh. Get out the vote and stop voter suppression. OneBro Mar 2019 #101

Since it unlikely we can fix any of the above by 20, we have to over- achieve to win this election. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #104

Perhaps. OneBro Mar 2019 #108

Nope look at the house results. These are moderates who won in Districts that Trump carried Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #110

Opinion: The myth of ideology, and why Democrats' energy isn't all on the left Gothmog Mar 2019 #113

Great article, Thanks. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #132

The concept that we can nominate an extreme candidate does not work in the real world Gothmog Mar 2019 #142

Yes. He would lose badly. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #147

Do you want to be WOKE or do you want to win? Gothmog Apr 2019 #350

Agreed, socialism is not an option to discuss in the Rustbelt R B Garr Mar 2019 #117

I agree completely. Let's not hand the GOP a weapon to Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #133

Define "centrist" moose65 Mar 2019 #119

I already did. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #121

Oh really? moose65 Mar 2019 #148

There is no one size fits all but I will try, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #156

Thank you for that reply moose65 Mar 2019 #170

The GOP will say what theyt will say but the ACA is already popular and people want it improved. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #173

umm...not so much notinkansas Mar 2019 #131

I would kill for status quo at this point. Let's see how about not running on Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #150

That is untrue. The seats that flipped were centrist...more than 30 Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #152

For the record, when a Website tells you 'here's the code to put it on your website' ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #154

I know. I was lazy. Sorry. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #157

All good ... just wanted to be sure you know how to do it :) mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #161

I am embarassed to admit I do know how, and it does look like crap. I was on a cell which is a pain Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #178

Progressive policies John Fante Mar 2019 #155

Why isn't Warren doing better? Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #158

A) It's early, Warren has time to catch up. John Fante Mar 2019 #171

I don't think EW can win a general. She has been demonized as Hillary was. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #174

How so? Hilary was pilloried for nearly 25 years before running in 2016, John Fante Mar 2019 #235

The pocohontas thing and the GOP have been after for years, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #242

The pochantas thing. John Fante Mar 2019 #301

I never thought Hillary would lose but she did so yeah that sort of thing can work. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #333

Who did better in these states in 2016 - the "centrist" or the "leftist"? BlueWI Mar 2019 #165

Apples and oranges. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #166

Perhaps...but BlueWI Mar 2019 #182

Not really. Plenty of candidates have lost states n the primary and won them Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #207

Look at what actually happened. BlueWI Mar 2019 #212

I don't see it that way, we barely lost Wisconsin. And stein voters are to Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #216

Well, let's add facts and think a bit further. BlueWI Mar 2019 #233

The number of votes that went to Greens would have elected clinton. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #244

Primaries are meaningless...I believe Sanders would have lost a general. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #199

Clinton lost in the general - in the actual election. BlueWI Mar 2019 #203

If you can't win a primary there is no reason to believe you would win a general. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #205

I do remember. BlueWI Mar 2019 #234

He was progressive and should have won. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #243

You have to win a primary. Also Hillary won red states in 08 and Obama Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #267

Like Al Gore and John Kerry and Hillary Clinton and... progressoid Mar 2019 #167

What do all those candidates have in common. They were fucked over by Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #208

Guess what. There is going to be a Green candidate again in 2020. progressoid Mar 2019 #217

I have hope that folks won't be stupid enough to vote for a spoiler Green Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #248

4 articles on so-called "independents": Garrett78 Mar 2019 #180

I find the nation unreliable and ended my subscription after their vicious attacks on our 2016 Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #200

Your objection to The Nation aside, I suggest reading any of the 4 articles. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #263

They may be partisans but don't call themselves Democrats or Republicans for a reason. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #272

One last comment... BlueWI Mar 2019 #183

It was mentioned but is a good reminder. Those elected in 18 were Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #193

And the Senate /statewide map is worse for us than the house. Look at the map, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #290

BS. the moron ran on populism here. of course he was lying for votes. pansypoo53219 Mar 2019 #184

Absolutely! But no, it's not a popular thing to say Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #186

Hillary was a centrist candidate TheFarseer Mar 2019 #187

She Also had NAFTA thrown at her, she had been demonized in the primary and by the GOP Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #192

I agree we need to beat Trump. TheFarseer Mar 2019 #194

Greens mattered in 16. We must beat Trump. And Stein peeled off Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #201

That's possible but TheFarseer Mar 2019 #222

Greens exist to help Republicans beat us,. They are worthless scum. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #241

Biden voted for NAFTA. John Fante Mar 2019 #238

She was a Clinton. It is different. And she had been demonized for years. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #240

Why would you think we need to attract anti-trump Republicans? aidbo Mar 2019 #197

Some have left the GOP because of Trump. This is the lowest number of Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #206

No we don't. We need to elect someone who addresses their needs and concerns. Like healthcare, Autumn Mar 2019 #210

A candidate who appeals to the rustbelt can do all that. A candidate that can't Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #213

It doesn't have to be a centrist is my point. Every candidate we have running is not only Autumn Mar 2019 #215

I don't agree. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #249

That's fine because I don't agree with your premise that we must elect a centrist. Autumn Mar 2019 #250

If we run anyone but a moderate, we lose in 20. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #292

Jobs-- especially jobs andym Mar 2019 #220

That's something that needs to be addressed. And it the last election it was not addressed Autumn Mar 2019 #221

Hillary Clinton talked about job retraining programs andym Mar 2019 #223

The future IMO needs to be Green industries. No way around it. Autumn Mar 2019 #225

And how will you keep green jobs from moving overseas exactly? Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #260

Retraining is a dirty word in the Midwest. Thousand were retrained for jobs Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #261

Like who? Polybius Mar 2019 #228

Because that worked out so well for Hillary when she won all those rust belt states? IronLionZion Mar 2019 #237

the worst assumption. It never worked. AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #251

No, we need a great message about an great agenda of positions that will help Americans live better vlyons Mar 2019 #252

Obama did ALL of those things riverine Mar 2019 #254

How did it work out? vlyons Mar 2019 #256

Now all that remains is to define the term "centrist". guillaumeb Mar 2019 #253

The socialists BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #275

This is true. We need a candidate that the GOP can't succeed in painting as Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #284

Messina Says Sanders Can't Beat Trump Gothmog Apr 2019 #346

I agree. If Sanders is the nominee we lose. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #347

The Reublicans I hear from might go for mainstreetonce Mar 2019 #277

That is what I think too. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #283

Yes, those terrible "centrists" will save our Party and our country. We need them! George II Mar 2019 #278

We do. We have to get Trump out. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #282

Howard Schultz would certainly define himself as a "centrist". Which begs the question, bullwinkle428 Mar 2019 #288

He is no centrist or moderate Democrat. He is a spoiler independent like Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #293

The Democrats Trump Fears Most Gothmog Mar 2019 #296

Those are who I would expect him to fear. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #321

If the economy is strong, trump can win Gothmog Mar 2019 #297

Donald Trump has a plan to win re-election with just 45 percent of the vote Gothmog Mar 2019 #299

Which means we must make Trump 1000X super-radioactive dalton99a Mar 2019 #300

Trump's Fate Now Even More Squarely in Hands of the Voters Gothmog Mar 2019 #314

I like Larry, too, but I have been saying that since the day after the 2016 elections ... Cosmocat Mar 2019 #323

I know that is what he is up to. But if we vote it won't be close.enough Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #320

You are preaching to the choir Gothmog Mar 2019 #324

And won't win running a Socialist or a gay doc03 Mar 2019 #302

I would campaign like crazy for a gay candidate but you may be right Gothmog Mar 2019 #313

I live on the border of PA,OH and WV. These f---g doc03 Mar 2019 #315

I am in Texas Gothmog Mar 2019 #316

I don't disagree. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #319

What we NEED is a complete overhaul of the Electoral College Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #312

It is in the Constitution . Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #317

Something can always be done Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #318

Amendment that will go nowhere. Maybe we try to make it work for us, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #325

No, we need a candidate who generates KPN Mar 2019 #327

The midterms showed we need moderate votes Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #336

The midterms were local districts and states. KPN Apr 2019 #339

Washington Post-'Electability' and 'Bernie' don't belong in the same sentence Gothmog Apr 2019 #331

I don't think Sanders can win a general. I will vote for the nominee but Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #334

I will support the Democratic nominee Gothmog Apr 2019 #337

Kicked and recommended Auggie Apr 2019 #332

Thank you. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #335

I don't necessarily think we need a centrist candidate as much as we need ... Auggie Apr 2019 #338

I agree nt Meowmee Apr 2019 #340

If sanders is the nominee, trump wins Gothmog Apr 2019 #341

According to this study trump could win Gothmog Apr 2019 #342

Better yet...why not a candidate that can win the rust belt AND deliver Texas? Indygram Apr 2019 #343

The actual attacks are irrelevant, what matters is the response. marylandblue Apr 2019 #344

According to Jim Messina, trump will beat sanders easily Gothmog Apr 2019 #345

The choice is Woke of Win Gothmog Apr 2019 #349

You mean, just like we did in 2016...? regnaD kciN Apr 2019 #351

You mean centrists like Rust Belt reps Rashida Tliab and Ilhan Omar? Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #352