Democratic Primaries

brooklynite

(94,503 posts) Sat Nov 16, 2019, 07:23 PM Nov 2019

Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi think we shouldn't get too radical in our campaign positions... [View all]

...but what do they know when compared to the opinion of the blogosphere?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi think we shouldn't get too radical in our campaign positions... [View all] brooklynite Nov 2019 OP

They seem concerned. BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #1

They're "concerned" because they don't want us to fuck it up. Dream Girl Nov 2019 #3

I don't need my hand held, do you? BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #5

"The wisdom of their choice" has been known to lose. brooklynite Nov 2019 #13

Yes, the safer kind of choice, like where we're being steered now. BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #16

Maybe you're being "steered now".. I am not. President Obama is still helping Cha Nov 2019 #156

Yeah..So has lame-assed timidity whathehell Nov 2019 #26

Who in your opinion is more lame-assed timid, Obama or Pelosi? beastie boy Nov 2019 #37

Never said that of either one, whathehell Nov 2019 #150

Yeah, because someone doesn't think like they Cha Nov 2019 #157

Yes, and here we go with that "thumb on the scale" stuff again. Gets wearisome, don't you think? George II Nov 2019 #67

Just my opinion I don't see it as thumbs on a scale, they are stating their seasoned opinion Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #18

Seasoned opinion indeed - a woman who never lost an election (31 years) and a man who never lost... George II Nov 2019 #87

Oh the UMBRAGE of some on Speaker Pelosi and Presiden Obama Cha Nov 2019 #96

They don't wanna hold your hand.. that's your interpretation. Cha Nov 2019 #27

You are not suggesting that Obama and Pelosi are infringing on anyone's freedom to vote beastie boy Nov 2019 #35

Pelosi and Obama have great political instincts...and I believe we lose if we run left. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #88

They don't get to have an opinion? mcar Nov 2019 #119

Before your own? BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #120

Huh? mcar Nov 2019 #123

That doesn't make sense. Cha Nov 2019 #136

Prescisely, Dream Girl.. Everyone who Wants trump outta Cha Nov 2019 #8

So right DownriverDem Nov 2019 #47

Was Hillary extreme? at140 Nov 2019 #106

If you're not concerned, you're not paying attention LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #4

EXACTLY. Cha Nov 2019 #7

I pay attention almost every day, for hours, and I seriously don't know who you're talking about. ancianita Nov 2019 #9

evidently the radicals are those who think every1 should have decent healthcare questionseverything Nov 2019 #85

That one thing? So the fear is, taxpayer money spent on taxpayers for healthcare is radical? ancianita Nov 2019 #165

Im gonna take away your current healthcare - works for me lol nt msongs Nov 2019 #2

Damn Straight they're "Concerned".. they want to WIN Cha Nov 2019 #6

Damn straight, Cha. They know what they are talking about! They know we, the people, emmaverybo Nov 2019 #11

Yes, I love that about Speaker Pelosi and President Barack Cha Nov 2019 #14

Here here! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #19

I'm not willing to take a chance of four more years of Trump and gamble the election away Gothmog Nov 2019 #170

More Winning With Moderates and President Obama in Louisiana! Cha Nov 2019 #179

President Obama knows how to win presidential elections. J_William_Ryan Nov 2019 #10

He knows how to win them for himself.. whathehell Nov 2019 #28

Oh yeah, Blame Hillary getting cheated out of the Presidency Cha Nov 2019 #32

remind me who was in charge of prosecuting illegal doing while hc was getting cheated pls? questionseverything Nov 2019 #86

Oh come on!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #38

"Come on" what? whathehell Nov 2019 #149

Exactly, Kasper! "Come on!!" as President Obama Cha Nov 2019 #151

... George II Nov 2019 #59

Love that! whathehell Nov 2019 #148

I think Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi know a bit more about how this works than.... George II Nov 2019 #12

Warren's latest health plan is causing concerns for some centrist, moderate and rural Democrats Gothmog Nov 2019 #203

No comment aidbo Nov 2019 #15

I remember that guy. I like that clip. BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #21

What about the heart attack and health issues? m/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #23

Two centrists demand centrism! Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #17

Two WINNERS SUGGEST WAYS TO WIN. Cha Nov 2019 #20

LOL!! peggysue2 Nov 2019 #24

Precisely, Peggysue! Cha Nov 2019 #25

No!!! Really?? Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #39

Yes.. too bad about those who choose to take it personally Cha Nov 2019 #41

Yuuup! whathehell Nov 2019 #29

NOPE! TWO WINNERS ARE SUGGESTING WAYS TO WIN! Cha Nov 2019 #33

If only there was a way to know what would happen if you run a centrist against Trump melman Nov 2019 #34

If only some understood Hillary Got 66 Million VOTES against Cha Nov 2019 #40

Do you remember who was the number one Hillary basher on this site in '08? melman Nov 2019 #43

Jill RAT FUCKING Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016. Cha Nov 2019 #45

I'll take that as a yes melman Nov 2019 #51

Jill Stein's Money Grab.. Stein is a Fraud.. Cha Nov 2019 #54

Great melman Nov 2019 #56

"48. Hillary and Bernie voted the same way 93% when they were in the Senate." Cha Nov 2019 #60

That's not me making a pro-Stein post melman Nov 2019 #70

The Point is.. your "centrist" meme is so WRONG. Cha Nov 2019 #71

What does that have to do with the post about Jill Stein? melman Nov 2019 #73

Your centrist" meme is wrong that's the point. Hillary didn't Cha Nov 2019 #75

Careful, don't get caught on this: George II Nov 2019 #79

Good luck with that... ehrnst Nov 2019 #199

Someone had a meme and Cha Nov 2019 #205

Sure. Let's see them. George II Nov 2019 #63

Advanced search melman Nov 2019 #66

Ah, so you DON'T have any. BTW, in case you didn't notice, "advanced search"..... George II Nov 2019 #68

And advanced search is only available to Star Members, so how does a non-star member betsuni Nov 2019 #82

Bazinga......... George II Nov 2019 #83

+++++ sheshe2 Nov 2019 #91

Ha! NurseJackie Nov 2019 #177

Please pull them up melman. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #89

Not going to do that for you melman Nov 2019 #93

But you offered: George II Nov 2019 #97

Then why say: sheshe2 Nov 2019 #98

This is like Geraldo Rivera and Al Capone's vault. betsuni Nov 2019 #101

Oh that's hysterical!!!!!! I forgot about that. George II Nov 2019 #102

... sheshe2 Nov 2019 #187

Indeed.......... George II Nov 2019 #104

... sheshe2 Nov 2019 #111

lol.. too bad for you that everyone has gotten over that but you Cha Nov 2019 #72

I wasn't here in 2008. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #76

Advanced search melman Nov 2019 #78

Another post of yours that I just responded to said you would do that. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #92

I made no accusation melman Nov 2019 #95

Lol sheshe2 Nov 2019 #109

That's twice - but "Advanced search" doesn't work for posts prior to 2011, and.... George II Nov 2019 #112

I don't need to be a 'star member' to know melman Nov 2019 #113

So where are the posts that you offered to provide? We're still waiting. You know what they say.... George II Nov 2019 #116

Advanced search melman Nov 2019 #117

ooops................my guess is they don't exist. Time to.... George II Nov 2019 #122

So someone says Hillary got 66 million votes against Trump and the lies of Stein betsuni Nov 2019 #125

No melman Nov 2019 #126

It is true no matter who says it. betsuni Nov 2019 #128

You Nailed IT, betsuni! Cha Nov 2019 #127

I remember hardly anything I said or did in 2008, let alone what someone else said on a message betsuni Nov 2019 #130

I remember Hillary being a TEAM Player and really Cha Nov 2019 #133

And didn't she start a campaign that autumn to convince hold-outs to vote for Obama? betsuni Nov 2019 #137

Yes Hillary started Campaigning for Obama right away.. Cha Nov 2019 #140

No, I mean she was worried about PUMA bad publicity and started an outreach betsuni Nov 2019 #141

Oh yeah.. I understand what you mean now.. Cha Nov 2019 #142

That is not correct, melman. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #135

Here's the problem with all this melman Nov 2019 #138

Bwahahaha sheshe2 Nov 2019 #143

On a PUBLIC site, no less! George II Nov 2019 #163

IKR sheshe2 Nov 2019 #188

It's something he can't move on from in Cha Nov 2019 #124

Surprising that someone who wasn't even a member here at the time is dwelling.... George II Nov 2019 #129

lol.. "Dwelling" is certainly an Cha Nov 2019 #131

Are those crickets I'm hearing? George II Nov 2019 #132

.. maybe.. Btw George.. I just found this.. Cha Nov 2019 #134

The 2008 Primaries were a mixed bag for many Democrats (yes, DEMOCRATS!).... George II Nov 2019 #139

here sheshe2 Nov 2019 #144

Awww, she.. that's exactly what made me cry.. I can Cha Nov 2019 #145

Hugs. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #146

Yes, Hillary and President Obama are in it for us.. they've Cha Nov 2019 #147

I see what you did there, George! sheshe2 Nov 2019 #189

That's what this is about? mcar Nov 2019 #172

In a word Cha Nov 2019 #181

It's apparently all he's got mcar Nov 2019 #185

Until the day before the election... OilemFirchen Nov 2019 #166

I too was a lurker back then, OilemFirchen. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #190

I joined on Dec 4, 2005. What are the odds someone who signed up years later... George II Nov 2019 #192

I guess an ace googler can do anything, George. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #194

... George II Nov 2019 #195

Exactly. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #196

NY/Sienna poll moderate/centrists vs liberal Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #42

Hillary and Bernie voted the same way 93% when they were in the Senate. betsuni Nov 2019 #48

lol.. dose of reality for some who can't quite understand Cha Nov 2019 #58

It's some kind of rule that to look at Hillary's voting record and the Democratic Party platform betsuni Nov 2019 #69

Yes, those trying to label Hillary a "centrist" really Cha Nov 2019 #90

Two main anti-Democratic attacks are clear: betsuni Nov 2019 #99

So true and so predictable! Jill Stein LIES got us trump Cha Nov 2019 #103

FDR and the capitalists did not want the communists to take over labor. They had to respond to the emmaverybo Nov 2019 #155

Bazinga! George II Nov 2019 #65

Ok then. Obama and Pelosi are endorsing centrists Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #84

We'll find out next November. George II Nov 2019 #61

It is disingenuous to suggest this was the reason for HRC loss with all that was thrown at her. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #64

Damn straight "it's disingenuous".. Thank you, Jewls! Cha Nov 2019 #77

Yes, if only. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #115

as long as llashram Nov 2019 #173

Two highly accomplished, winning DEMOCRATS are advising how to win. They're living proof. George II Nov 2019 #55

Absolutely! But, according to some.. why listen Cha Nov 2019 #81

Pelosi's a "centrist?" mcar Nov 2019 #121

PBO is absolutely on the money here. n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #22

"Radical" ritapria Nov 2019 #30

And none of those countries vote in our elections LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #46

FDR did pretty good on "Radical change" ritapria Nov 2019 #49

FDR died almost 75 years ago, in an altogether different time LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #74

I rely on Obamacare Centrist_Dem Nov 2019 #162

I thought something was up when they sent in Deval Patrick. CentralMass Nov 2019 #31

They know what they are talking about. We can't win with a socialist doc03 Nov 2019 #36

This!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #44

Only the future will tell. BlueWI Nov 2019 #50

And Hillary Clinton has been offering the same advice re Medicare For All and the wealth tax. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #52

times have changed and times are strange. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #53

in my opinion Unclephil Nov 2019 #57

The operative word is "campaign"... VarryOn Nov 2019 #62

They don't fill out my voting ballot. I will vote straight Democratic party Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #80

And, they don't want to "fill out your voting ballot" Cha Nov 2019 #94

And who defines what is too radical? guillaumeb Nov 2019 #100

What won't win in the GE.. in the Swing States with Cha Nov 2019 #108

Exactly LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #164

Often polling suggests that "the voters" are more progressive than their politicians. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #206

Exactly what is too radical Farmer-Rick Nov 2019 #202

So much for hopey-changey candidates. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #105

Here's the thing flotsam Nov 2019 #107

Right now Joe Biden takes Down trump Cha Nov 2019 #114

I respect your choice and understand your point flotsam Nov 2019 #118

If you push socialist bullshit, you will lose.... Historic NY Nov 2019 #110

Pelosi and Obama must have a really special insight into voters minds. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #152

Who said health care was a "communist" radical issue? betsuni Nov 2019 #154

I don't do back and forth rebuttal. If you don't get it, then you won't get it. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #158

Personal insult! betsuni Nov 2019 #159

You're not stupid. It's just I am not in the mood to type out explanations YOHABLO Nov 2019 #160

There is no explanation. I'm just not in the mood for typed out slogans. betsuni Nov 2019 #161

the poster did not call you stupid Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #167

Barack Obama robocall gives Gov. John Bel Edwards a last-minute get-out-the-vote boost Cha Nov 2019 #153

President Obama was the difference in this election Gothmog Nov 2019 #178

lol.. I just posted this to you upthread! It's great News.. Cha Nov 2019 #180

Every now and then Centrists need to talk about how far the political spectrum has been pushed to jalan48 Nov 2019 #168

There are more centrists in the part compared to extreme liberals Gothmog Nov 2019 #171

Are those regular Centrists or Extreme Centrists? jalan48 Nov 2019 #174

extra spicy Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #175

I trust both President Obama and Speaker Pelosi Gothmog Nov 2019 #169

Same. Sapient Donkey Nov 2019 #198

Obama also allowed major losses at the state level when he was president and was leading the DNC SterlingPound Nov 2019 #176

President Obama is Winning now.. and he didn't "allow" anything.. Cha Nov 2019 #182

While racism played a major part SterlingPound Nov 2019 #183

Whatever.. President Obama is Still A WINNER and knows Cha Nov 2019 #186

My primary choice pecking order has not changed. This 11th hour entry IMO is just going to CentralMass Nov 2019 #184

Seems like some simple, obvious and good advice to me. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2019 #191

And they're both right, which is why I love 'em. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #193

It's a last gasp from the progressives of today. Joe941 Nov 2019 #197

From Harry Reid Gothmog Nov 2019 #200

Florida Democrats want a moderate. Gothmog Nov 2019 #201

Yes, they want to win. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2019 #204

Polling show MFA is a bad idea Gothmog Nov 2019 #207

CNN Poll- voters want candidates who have realistic programs Gothmog Nov 2019 #208

The old guards advice. We make our own way today. Joe941 Nov 2019 #209