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Cha

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200. EX-CELL-ENT! Mahalo! Did you make that?!

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 01:23 AM

Oct 2019

'cause somebody needed to.. that's how I started becoming a Biden supporter.. when the hit jobs started coming before he even launched his campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Report: 'Look at My Record, Child,' Biden Tells Adult Climate Campaigner in Condescending Response [View all] JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 OP

Sometimes condescension is the appropriate response maximusveritas Oct 2019 #1

So does Joe's resume makes it ok? JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #5

Seriously!! Just imagine if Bernie had said this?! They'd be telling him to withdraw from the race!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #56

There's people here who would be outraged that's for sure. cwydro Oct 2019 #106

Absolutely, the same standards should apply. I've been critical of Bernie InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #115

I've never been a Bernie fan, and I never will be - but you're right. cwydro Oct 2019 #123

You're SO right, as usual cwydro... and, like you, people don't have to be Bernie fans to be FAIR. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #127

Would you have asked such a dumbly phrased question? treestar Oct 2019 #140

I'm a helluva lot older now, and I don't think it was such a bad question. cwydro Oct 2019 #158

Agree to disagree that he deserves that treestar Oct 2019 #209

Yes and I can easily imagine a good answer karynnj Oct 2019 #226

If Bernie had said whay Joe said ritapria Oct 2019 #120

OMG, yes, Bernie wouldve been skewered and slow roasted until he begged to be put out of his misery! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #122

Well, so treestar Oct 2019 #141

Or Hillary StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #168

Well to be fair she did tell a young woman 'well why don't you run for office then' redqueen Oct 2019 #169

That's very different and much less offensive StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #170

In that case the young woman was also repeating anti-democratic propaganda. betsuni Oct 2019 #180

Neither is an excuse for being rude. redqueen Oct 2019 #182

Neither of them were rude. betsuni Oct 2019 #183

I think both were rude. nt redqueen Oct 2019 #184

Yes... as the saying goes: two wrongs don't make one right. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #185

That is a horrible homily to place above your candidates. LSFL Oct 2019 #228

So, is casting a needed and good response as condescending "OK"? Hortensis Oct 2019 #129

Yes. Compared to the way others might react considering the circumstances, he was polite. George II Oct 2019 #134

Who would be that rude? nt USALiberal Oct 2019 #220

Yes Loki Liesmith Oct 2019 #159

Yes. Blue_true Oct 2019 #190

Yep. sure does. -nt Amimnoch Oct 2019 #217

I would be gentler than that. I'm 60 and have mentored many young professionals. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #7

How can anyone possibly excuse Joe's condescending comment to an adult female? InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #58

A few things about that - first it's TWENTY SEVEN SECONDS, no indication of what happened before.... George II Oct 2019 #136

Yeah, I remember that Sunrise video. It was a bit...edited to make Feinstein look bad. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #156

You rightfully go into a lot of other details that are part of the policy that our next nominee... George II Oct 2019 #171

+1 betsuni Oct 2019 #181

Thank you Wawannabe Oct 2019 #163

Context Wawannabe Oct 2019 #164

If she is too young for the heat, keep her out of the kitchen treestar Oct 2019 #142

Agree. Elders who have given their lives to serve the nation deserve respect. IluvPitties Oct 2019 #9

Condescension to an adult, even a young adult, is NEVER the appropriate response, pnwmom Oct 2019 #16

Yeah, that always works out in the GE. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #39

IKR!! Surprising, coming from such a seasoned politician!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #42

Doesn't matter how I would feel, I"m not running for president. Merlot Oct 2019 #49

Not if you want that 18 year old's vote Raven123 Oct 2019 #130

Some don't WANT the new vote. They see charming 100,000 Trump voters blm Nov 2019 #232

I keep hearing we must be careful not to offend condescend to people in order to get their support StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #167

Nice try! nt USALiberal Oct 2019 #219

An 18 year old is a voter karynnj Oct 2019 #225

So? boomer_wv Oct 2019 #2

This Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 #24

Indeed +++ RelativelyJones Oct 2019 #62

Oh no... save all the hand wringing and condescending rage?.. Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #81

"Look at my record, child." bluewater Oct 2019 #3

I wonder if he'd have said the same to a male 18 year old. cwydro Oct 2019 #12

I think you're right. He reserves his warmest condescension for females. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #18

It sure seems that way... I could be wrong though. Just can't think of an alternative example. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #59

I guess it could be worse. Not like his campaign has faced charges of sexism. MrsCoffee Oct 2019 #125

+1 betsuni Oct 2019 #126

I know you are both right. And that hurts me because it makes me think of my own three... JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #61

Yes, excellent point... the sexism Joe displayed was hurtful, and not just to that young woman!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #131

I can imagine how you would feel if a candidate's campaign was found to have engaged in unfair wages MrsCoffee Oct 2019 #149

You can bet he wouldn't melman Oct 2019 #36

Yeah, good point... not a good look at all. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #43

+1 progressoid Oct 2019 #65

"Look at my record, kid." Beartracks Oct 2019 #73

Biden as racist, Biden as sexist treestar Oct 2019 #143

This was a bad response RainCaster Oct 2019 #4

+1000! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #6

BINGO!! It's a mistake you would expect from a less experienced politician, not one of Joe's stature InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #44

Made any fair points lately? Wawannabe Oct 2019 #165

It's a bad response because people WILL pay more attention to... Beartracks Oct 2019 #75

This seems like misplaced outrage to me. madaboutharry Oct 2019 #8

"being extraordinary patient with an 18 year old" JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #11

To someone in their 70's an 18 year old is a teenager. madaboutharry Oct 2019 #14

The 18 year old is a VOTER who is probably more informed than the majority of voters. pnwmom Oct 2019 #20

That all may be true madaboutharry Oct 2019 #23

Not just with young people -- with females. This is one more example of his overly familiar pnwmom Oct 2019 #35

Meh Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #92

Well, it was pretty tone deaf on Biden's part. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #40

Yes -- I thought of the Anita Hill testimony tonight, too. pnwmom Oct 2019 #54

Absolutely!! Joe blew that response, plain and simple... he should just admit it and apologize. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #52

No she is not treestar Oct 2019 #144

Exactly LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #203

To someone in True Blue American Oct 2019 #112

Actually, it doesn't read as '"patient." It reads as "condescending" and "dismissive." n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #80

Exactly. cwydro Oct 2019 #107

Add that to the list of entries in the Biden/younger voter tone deafness catalogue BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #10

Ugh I forgot about that one redqueen Oct 2019 #17

I forgot that too. And it's only from a few weeks ago! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #25

Yikes!! Not good. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #66

I have been waiting almost 2 years for this to be addressed by Biden: Celerity Oct 2019 #116

It really pisses me off when politicians don't care to understand basic math BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #121

description as condescending is a matter of opinion nt msongs Oct 2019 #13

Agree, the comment in the OP can be read as condescending, redqueen Oct 2019 #19

Overly familiar is almost as bad. nt pnwmom Oct 2019 #21

Either way, not a good look. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #67

I think it is condescending of an 18 year old, who hasn't Blue_true Oct 2019 #191

True, that is not "a good look" either treestar Oct 2019 #212

I guess this is kind of a payback editorial from common dreams... sheshe2 Oct 2019 #15

Do you? melman Oct 2019 #38

Oh melman. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #50

Typical melman Oct 2019 #152

Kill the messenger attacks are bad now! betsuni Oct 2019 #51

What in the fuck are you even talking about? melman Oct 2019 #153

What happened before and what happened after that very short video? We don't know, but.... George II Oct 2019 #139

Nonsense melman Oct 2019 #154

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #22

He's a lovable old Grouch ritapria Oct 2019 #26

So, I can just dismiss dismiss someone's question/opinion by just calling them a child? No! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #28

She looked and acted like a child and was trying to ambush him with a gotcha question starting with highplainsdem Oct 2019 #27

"the way she looked around at the phone or camera catching the staged confrontation"l JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #30

I saw it on the twitter feed...... Historic NY Oct 2019 #76

I highly doubt you and I were the only ones that caught that. One of Biden's best qualities Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #84

Lol. cwydro Oct 2019 #108

Yes to imply he is favoring big business treestar Oct 2019 #145

another one of those threads.... quickesst Oct 2019 #29

Joe can take it. He's clearly not nearly so weak that my opinion would matter. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #31

I agree quickesst Oct 2019 #37

lol.. They're so very Cha Oct 2019 #195

Hey Cha! quickesst Oct 2019 #199

EX-CELL-ENT! Mahalo! Did you make that?! Cha Oct 2019 #200

I don't have the expertise for that quickesst Oct 2019 #201

Wow.. who knew!? Thank you.. I'll Cha Oct 2019 #204

Beautiful! emmaverybo Oct 2019 #229

glad you like it.... quickesst Oct 2019 #230

dear young people. evertonfc Oct 2019 #32

You can say that, but people don't think that way. AtheistCrusader Oct 2019 #187

if today's evertonfc Oct 2019 #188

Child please. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #33

++++ Wawannabe Oct 2019 #166

Boo hoo hoo... Wah!!! Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #34

lol! So Cha Oct 2019 #194

I'd be visibly frustrated too. betsuni Oct 2019 #41

Sounds like the Vice President showed some reality in that answer Baked Potato Oct 2019 #45

I would be very wrong if I said your comment is coming from a child. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #47

VERY wrong... haha!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #205

Description as a "little sternness" Is a matter of opinion. n/t MarcA Oct 2019 #53

Not considering some of his banking related legislation for the state of Delaware. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #83

It's a respectful question. BlueWI Oct 2019 #197

oh fuckstick ! dweller Oct 2019 #46

+1000! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #48

An 18-year-old is considered an adult in this country, not a "child." They can go vote, go to war vsrazdem Oct 2019 #55

"They can go vote, go to war" JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #64

Yes they do all those things. If they are behaving as an adult then they should also understand Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #87

I think you mean "manners." cwydro Oct 2019 #109

oh please! treestar Oct 2019 #150

THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #68

Then she can handle being condescended to treestar Oct 2019 #146

And should not be treated like a child. vsrazdem Oct 2019 #157

Adults can handle it treestar Oct 2019 #210

She did not walk up to him and announce her age before she asked that question. George II Oct 2019 #214

What the hell? melman Oct 2019 #215

Thank you. I'm so honored that I have you among my "followers" (a la twitter)! George II Oct 2019 #216

Not a Biden supporter at this time (will vote for him IF he is the nominee -- However.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2019 #57

Thank you! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #85

Disqualifier. n/t Eyeball_Kid Oct 2019 #60

Ahem "ing" Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #63

Wouldn't go THAT far... there are far worse things Joe has said and done. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #70

That's a "never-say" progressoid Oct 2019 #69

Pro-tip: No matter your level of experience or expertise, probably don't call anyone "child" RockRaven Oct 2019 #71

Bingo! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #72

Bring the smelling salts!!! Reef the mainsail, Abandon ship!! Blah blah Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #88

When one offers them this kind of reply to their concerns, their non-turnout is a response in turn, RockRaven Oct 2019 #89

Yes, she was condescending and self righteous in her question. Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #91

I would like to hear your account of which candidates have spoken to 18-25 year olds' concerns RockRaven Oct 2019 #95

Lower income people vote for Democrats. Propaganda targeted against Democrats depresses voting. betsuni Oct 2019 #99

She was earnest and concerned. But she's only a "child." She shouldn't bother her pretty little head pnwmom Oct 2019 #98

Would it be fine for her to call him "old man"? Why is it okay to refer to her as a child pnwmom Oct 2019 #96

Well by all means then, actively discourage them from participating. AtheistCrusader Oct 2019 #173

Joe seems to have a real problem with young people... regnaD kciN Oct 2019 #74

The "old familiar phenomena" of staying home on voting day has very little to do with the candidate! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #90

18-29 voting outnumber 65+ 'going on decades now' crazytown Oct 2019 #104

Believe it or not, it fluctuates depending on the candidate. redqueen Oct 2019 #161

Just another reason why Joe's fadin in the polls...as a seasoned politician, even he knows it's over InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #231

Big f**king deal! We have become the nitpicking center of the internet . demosincebirth Oct 2019 #77

Pick pick pick pick. His poll numbers are back up- gaining or retaking leads...so there ya have it Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #93

If he would have patted her or touched her the sky would demosincebirth Oct 2019 #175

My brother just mentioned this song - OhZone Oct 2019 #78

I don't blame him for thinking what he said ritapria Oct 2019 #79

Some have tried to excuse Joe by saying that he's so old an 18 year old looks like a child pnwmom Oct 2019 #82

And maybe he should remember there are 18 year olds in uniform. cwydro Oct 2019 #110

holding people to a standard of perfection treestar Oct 2019 #147

It would be different if his treatment of women wasn't part off a pattern. nt pnwmom Oct 2019 #174

A lot don't agree there is such a pattern treestar Oct 2019 #208

Ask Anita pnwmom Oct 2019 #213

All I know Green Line Oct 2019 #86

She was too polite to answer: "Look, old man, I know about your banking legislation." pnwmom Oct 2019 #94

Good point. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2019 #114

That makes it pretty clear - he was rude. There's no excuse. nt redqueen Oct 2019 #162

To be fair, anybody under 50 is a child compared to him. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #97

I have an 18 yr old grandson Skidmore Oct 2019 #100

On the same that that a candidate refused to give details of the financing of a $30+ trillion plan.. George II Oct 2019 #189

If she was 5 years old Hav Oct 2019 #101

The Sunrise Movement. The same PAC that used CHILDREN to bombard Feinstein's office still_one Oct 2019 #102

+10000000000 betsuni Oct 2019 #103

+!!! crazytown Oct 2019 #105

Mahalo, still_one.. FO Sunrise.. Good for Biden.. the usual Cha Oct 2019 #196

Good to see you Cha. When someone comes up to supposedly ask a question of someone, and still_one Oct 2019 #206

Biden answered it perfectly, Cha Oct 2019 #207

Another pathetic shot at Biden. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #111

"But your record is fighting to go into the Iraq War." betsuni Oct 2019 #113

Joe has more self restraint than I. The word "fool" is a more accurate description, in this instance Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #117

If he's going to be the candidate I want him to at least try to do better. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #118

"Don't question my integrity and expect a respectful reply". Joe was oasis Oct 2019 #119

I guess he should have called him "silly." ehrnst Oct 2019 #124

you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #128

I heard, "look at my record, Shawn" ecstatic Oct 2019 #132

oh geez that was not even in a forum like I imagined it treestar Oct 2019 #148

Reminiscent of when Chelsea Clinton organized a memorial for the New Zealand Muslim shooting... George II Oct 2019 #133

Last week, I'd wondered what form the Next Weekly Outrage would be. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #135

Yeah, this - OhZone Oct 2019 #137

Thank you MustLoveBeagles Oct 2019 #192

Over a hundred posts and general hysteria in some other quarters over... TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #138

Absolutely. This is the same PAC that occupied Feinstein and Pelosi's offices still_one Oct 2019 #151

Methinks the Sunshine people need to throw a little sunshine on themselves peggysue2 Oct 2019 #172

He was a lot more restrained than I would have been, seeing as she just accused him... George II Oct 2019 #186

Agree! peggysue2 Oct 2019 #198

Really? What would you have said? nt USALiberal Oct 2019 #222

This is your third snarky one-line "nt" reply to posts of mine in less than an hour. Curious. George II Oct 2019 #224

And yet, he was able to answer the question here. AtheistCrusader Oct 2019 #193

That situation did not call for some nuanced answer treestar Oct 2019 #211

haha he called baby a man once..no biggie.. samnsara Oct 2019 #155

Good. More like this please, Joe. Loki Liesmith Oct 2019 #160

Trump Wins This Way. IADEMO2004 Oct 2019 #176

Big whoop. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #177

So, Joe Otterbein, what is Joe Biden's record? Sometimes people ask stupid questions... Hekate Oct 2019 #178

He was being polite, generational thing I guess n/t scardycat Oct 2019 #179

That's what happens when you ask a childish queation LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #202

A campaign based on defensive counterargtuments loyalsister Oct 2019 #218

There used to be a Daily Bernie Dogpile round these parts. mac56 Oct 2019 #221

Used to be? melman Oct 2019 #223

+1 Kurt V. Oct 2019 #227