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Gothmog

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42. Why Elizabeth Warren won't talk about the cost of 'Medicare for All'
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:02 PM
Oct 2019



The elephant in the waiting room remains the staggering cost of this new system. There's a reason why Warren avoids the conversation about how we're going to pay for Medicare for All. In fact, anyone with a pencil and paper and third-grade math skills would quickly figure out that this proposal simply cannot work.

Depending on whom you ask, cost estimates range from $2.5 trillion to $4.7 trillion per year. It's important to keep in mind that the entire federal budget for fiscal year 2020 is $4.7 trillion (including a $1.1 trillion-dollar deficit). Basically, we would have to double the size of the government through higher taxes on every American employee and fundamentally alter the structure of the American economy.....

Medicare for All fans propose to demolish our current health care system that certainly needs streamlining, more competition between insurance companies and plans and new and better technology. Other issues that must be addressed are drug manufacturing and distribution networks and hospital consolidation.

While we desperately need reform, any realistic policy proposal would recognize that 90 percent of Americans currently have health insurance. Instead, reasonable politicians should focus on how to cover those who are uninsured or underinsured in our current system.
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Expanding the already-existing Medicare isn't reinventing the wheel. area51 Sep 2019 #1
Considerable difference between MFA and a Public Option. PNHP represents 2% of physicians. Hoyt Sep 2019 #2
Always thought the public option was an excellent idea. "Try before you buy." n/t Beartracks Sep 2019 #6
You can't expand the existing medicare system for all...it will be a new system and damned expensive Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #13
You wouldn't want Medicare expanded. It's very inadequate. Hortensis Oct 2019 #19
My Medicare coverage is great Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #29
That "supplemental" you have to purchase out of pocket Hortensis Oct 2019 #32
What we have now is a scam Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #33
It wouldn't be expanded, it'd completely new with old name on it. Hortensis Oct 2019 #35
Wrong. The system is in place Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #36
MfA would be profit-based medicine, B3. I suspect Sanders Hortensis Oct 2019 #38
ZIIIINNG!!! Pelosi is doing great on impeachment, but she has this one wrong!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #28
Thank you, Nancy Pelosi! Cha Sep 2019 #3
There's so much that's wrong about this Maven Sep 2019 #4
Relative to PO I don't see how MFA is a good idea, MFA would be starting over completely uponit7771 Sep 2019 #9
+1 Joe941 Oct 2019 #24
just do SOMETHING dweller Sep 2019 #5
Nobody willingly gives up the football Nasruddin Sep 2019 #7
K&R betsuni Sep 2019 #8
KICK! Cha Sep 2019 #10
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #11
Speaker Pelosi -- always rational and astute. nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #12
Pelosi Wants Focus on Obamacare Gothmog Sep 2019 #14
Nancy backs Joe's position Gothmog Sep 2019 #15
NBC/WSJ poll shows Biden's healthcare stance (optional Medicare buy-in) much more popular Gothmog Sep 2019 #16
Obamacare Has Made People Healthier Gothmog Oct 2019 #17
Speaker is absolutely right. It took a tremendous effort to get to Obamacare. We should do as she & onetexan Oct 2019 #22
:) Pelosi's biased. She is, above all the others involved, THE person Hortensis Oct 2019 #18
KICK! Cha Oct 2019 #20
Oh Nancy. We can do better and provide coverage and healthcare to more people. aikoaiko Oct 2019 #21
Billionaire health execs agree. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #23
K&R Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #25
I'm with Nancy on this. calguy Oct 2019 #26
You are so right, Nancy. It's what the people want. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #27
"Improving" the ACA would improve the insurers bottom line Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #30
Why Elizabeth Warren won't talk about the cost of 'Medicare for All' Gothmog Oct 2019 #42
Mahalo, Goth! Cha Nov 2019 #50
Joe and Pelosi for the win. oasis Oct 2019 #31
30% of US Health Care Expenditures Are Administrative DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #34
Incrementalism again. We've done 40 years of it. Enough! Doremus Oct 2019 #37
Yeah, and President Obama finally got somewhere.. Cha Oct 2019 #46
One success in 40 years isn't a record I'm proud of. Are you? Doremus Nov 2019 #48
We're very proud of ACA.. the foundation Cha Nov 2019 #49
73% of people favor [the] public option that would keep private insurance in place Gothmog Oct 2019 #39
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2019 #40
Support for a public option has been increasing, and for Medicare-for-All has been decreasing Gothmog Oct 2019 #41
Choices for Financing Medicare for All: A Preliminary Analysis Gothmog Oct 2019 #43
A good rule of thumb: Don't get to Pelosi's left Gothmog Oct 2019 #44
Nancy knows how to WIN.. she handled it Well.. Cha Oct 2019 #45
Joe Biden's health care plan will be ready to go the day he's sworn into office Gothmog Oct 2019 #47
She is right. And you are selling her short if you think it's political. Chemisse Nov 2019 #51
yeah. no. *health care* will still be beholden to the all mighty dollar. that is not sustainable. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #52
Pelosi: 'I'm not a big fan of Medicare for All' Gothmog Nov 2019 #53
From Harry Reid Gothmog Nov 2019 #54
Bullshit. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #55
A good rule of thumb: Don't get to Pelosi's left Gothmog Nov 2019 #56
I assume there is some sort of point you're trying to make with this. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #57
According to this poll, MFA is a bad idea Gothmog Nov 2019 #58
Yes. Just finish and build on Obamacare as always planned. Hortensis Nov 2019 #59
When it comes to Medicare-for-all, listen to Nancy Pelosi Gothmog Nov 2019 #60
Nancy Pelosi is "not for doing away with Obamacare" and prefers to give people choices. Gothmog Dec 2019 #61
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