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PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:39 PM Sep 2019

Bernie Sanders Blames Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton for Trump Presidency [View all]

By Tommy ChristopherSep 24th, 2019, 10:38 am

Bernie Sanders agreed with one supporter who blamed former Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton for Trump’s 2016 election victory, agreed with another who said he had “truly won” over Hillary Clinton in 2016, and thanked another supporter for comparing Trump’s campaign with Bernie’s.

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“I’m here tonight, and I’ve been to three towns in Iowa today, because Obama won here in 2012, Trump won here in 2016,” Sanders continued and asked “Why?”
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“I’m sorry, Obama won, he had the majority in the Senate, he had the majority in the House, did not come through on these important issues,” he continued. “I don’t care if you win, you have to help the people that put you there, or they’re not going to put you there second time.”

After determining the man’s name, Sanders said “Okay, I agree with Art. I think when people do not see government responding to their needs, we’re ignoring their needs, they become alienated from the political process or they vote the other way.”
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But extensive research has demonstrated that racial and “cultural” factors were key to Trump’s victory, and not economic anxiety. And while President Obama did lose his filibuster-proof majority after a total of fourteen legislative weeks — passing health care reform and rescuing the economy in that time — voters did send him back to the White House a second time.



So to recap: Bernie Sanders agrees that he really beat Hillary Clinton, that two of the most popular Democrats in history are to blame for Trump’s victory, and that Trump also eked out a victory by “copying” Bernie Sanders’ message. Bernie Sanders is running to be the Democratic nominee for president.


http://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-bernie-sanders-blames-presidents-barack-obama-and-bill-clinton-for-trump-presidency/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Grr. DavidDvorkin Sep 2019 #1
Headline is completely wrong. People are responding without reading the article... thesquanderer Sep 2019 #119
The headline just serves as a cue for the daily 2 minutes of Bernie hate. dgauss Sep 2019 #123
Agreed. Sanders gave a very professional answer. BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #126
It's happening too much here RhodeIslandOne Sep 2019 #147
WOW ! stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #2
Quelle surprise! George II Sep 2019 #3
Just reading these twists and lies makes my blood pressure rise. Hortensis Sep 2019 #128
Which twists and lies would that be? The ones in the OP? Doremus Sep 2019 #134
What lies in the OP? betsuni Sep 2019 #138
Here's one: dgauss Sep 2019 #140
He has said: "Some people say that maybe if the system was not rigged against me, betsuni Sep 2019 #141
So that equals "Bernie Sanders agrees that he really beat Hillary Clinton" in the current thread? dgauss Sep 2019 #142
Yes. betsuni Sep 2019 #143
Maybe up equals down as well? Simple fact: Sanders didn't agree. The OP made that up. dgauss Sep 2019 #154
Bernie just needs to go away calguy Sep 2019 #4
Yes please. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #10
i also echo the YES, PLEASE. trueblue2007 Sep 2019 #153
Yes, he does. nt jrthin Sep 2019 #16
True that! WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2019 #62
+1 -K&R onetexan Sep 2019 #82
yes he does nt Celerity Sep 2019 #90
Yes! Tipperary Sep 2019 #117
Yes!! nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #163
and that is why he is now running third in most polls still_one Sep 2019 #5
WHAT? Me. Sep 2019 #6
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #7
Many people share your feelings. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #9
Bazinga! George II Sep 2019 #32
Imma let you finish with their splinters, RockRaven Sep 2019 #8
Obama had all three branches for a very short period of time, and he gave us secondwind Sep 2019 #11
You are right. Sanders seems to be repeating incorrect info. LiberalFighter Sep 2019 #95
Well bless his heart! SCVDem Sep 2019 #12
So much for the Unity Pledge. And between Clinton and Obama, he skipped right over... George II Sep 2019 #20
All of this! mcar Sep 2019 #35
omg.. smh.. excellent point. Cha Sep 2019 #76
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Sep 2019 #93
Originally I had that noted SCVDem Sep 2019 #105
Wow MustLoveBeagles Sep 2019 #13
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. BS is Wrong. Cha Sep 2019 #14
No, No & No! peggysue2 Sep 2019 #15
Especially if we go to a second ballot and all the Super Delegates get to weigh in. George II Sep 2019 #21
It's disgusting. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #26
And the Unity Pledge goes just a little bit deeper in its grave. George II Sep 2019 #17
It has been in the grave since May NYMinute Sep 2019 #122
I think it is Bedtime for Bernie. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2019 #18
Kinda like "Weekend at Bernie's", on North Hero perhaps? George II Sep 2019 #23
Exactly, Bernie shares many personality traits with Trump nt Fresh_Start Sep 2019 #94
Yes. I have for a long time. Hortensis Sep 2019 #131
This is why this non-Dem is sinking fast. O accomplished quite significant things despite the... brush Sep 2019 #19
Non Dem is right. WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2019 #63
why didn't Sanders himself pass anything while he was there ? JI7 Sep 2019 #22
He sponsored a couple of bills naming post offices. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #43
Bernie can Wawannabe Sep 2019 #24
And not a moment too soon question everything Sep 2019 #27
Some people won't like it, but there is some truth to what Bernie said. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #135
What truth? That Barack Obama and Bill Clinton did nothing? BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #144
Some people won't like it, but there is some truth to what Bernie said. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #135
Please expand on what "some truth" is NYMinute Sep 2019 #146
Looks like we'll never know what you meant by "some truth" nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #162
Barack Obama's fault? sheshe2 Sep 2019 #25
I actually have insurance through Obamacare right now while I am on a leave of absence... W_HAMILTON Sep 2019 #36
I was on Obamacare for several months after losing my job. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #38
Aw, thank you. W_HAMILTON Sep 2019 #47
Best to you and yours. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #48
Hugs to you susanr516 Sep 2019 #69
Hugs to you, sheshe susanr516 Sep 2019 #67
And he wants me to call him a Democrat? liberal N proud Sep 2019 #28
He wants all of the prestige and clout the Democratic Party offers.... SergeStorms Sep 2019 #39
It's far easier to appropriate the infrastructure and resources of a successful entity ehrnst Sep 2019 #100
Warren bashing Obama/Clinton over TPP and European trade also contributed. Sorry. Hoyt Sep 2019 #29
Don't be sorry Wawannabe Sep 2019 #80
Boo. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #30
Not good. What does Bernie think he'll gain?: oasis Sep 2019 #31
Heckling privileges??? IDK. nt Skidmore Sep 2019 #158
Bernie gave us Trump by taking votes from Hillary... BS is another self-important Ralph Nader. keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #33
That is how I view Bernie, he gave us Trump katmondoo Sep 2019 #97
This makes no sense. Ace Rothstein Sep 2019 #104
Bernie got some votes - in the name of Trump keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #109
So now candidates are responsible for how their primary election voters vote in the general? Ace Rothstein Sep 2019 #112
While literally true, some number of his supporters treestar Sep 2019 #149
Ugh mcar Sep 2019 #34
I honestly thought this would be the Onion. LakeArenal Sep 2019 #37
I wish it was MustLoveBeagles Sep 2019 #51
Yes, I know that greatest thinker of all time, the genius of geniuses, the real winner of the... NNadir Sep 2019 #40
I am undecided about who will be my candidate.... I can NoMoreRepugs Sep 2019 #41
When BS fails to get the nomination, he will run as an Independent. Doodley Sep 2019 #42
He'd better not. Cha Sep 2019 #46
I truly do not think he has the jacobs to do that Celerity Sep 2019 #91
If he isn't already..... BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #145
By that time it will be too late for him to get on most states' ballots. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #49
He was talked out of doing that the first time. ehrnst Sep 2019 #101
ARGGH Gothmog Sep 2019 #44
Well said MustLoveBeagles Sep 2019 #52
I was just wondering if Mr Sanders has ever blamed himself for anything. njhoneybadger Sep 2019 #45
No, of course not. He is without sin... comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #55
Nope, and that's something else he has in common with the current resident. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2019 #70
Talking points: betsuni Sep 2019 #50
And when you get right down to it WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2019 #68
Excellent wrap up, betsuni.. Cha Sep 2019 #85
Right! Just where does he think he's going with this? betsuni Sep 2019 #86
.. Cha Sep 2019 #87
Tommy Christopher melman Sep 2019 #53
Holly Otterbein's twitter feed confirms all of this. comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #60
Bernie Sanders betsuni Sep 2019 #84
That's right.. Cha Sep 2019 #88
"This is troubling for Bernie..." LanternWaste Sep 2019 #111
K&R nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #54
BS is not a Democrat ... so I am not shocked BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #56
When you run again, you need to have gotten over having lost previously. Otherwise, your current emmaverybo Sep 2019 #57
+1 n/t PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #59
Oy. SunSeeker Sep 2019 #58
The country's most visible internet troll Starry Messenger Sep 2019 #61
Very misleading headline and Video. Watch the part of the video the OP doesn't show. jg10003 Sep 2019 #64
How is it misleading? betsuni Sep 2019 #72
I haven't really been paying attention to Bernie Sanders TlalocW Sep 2019 #65
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #66
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #71
It was racism. OldRed2450 Sep 2019 #73
Imagine that Lotusflower70 Sep 2019 #74
wtf??? greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #75
This is disqualifying! True Dough Sep 2019 #77
THIS is yet another reason that I can't support him... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #96
Any candidate who knocks Obama Lulu KC Sep 2019 #78
I would go further than that Wawannabe Sep 2019 #79
Perfect. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #92
But there is a big group of people on the far left who would totally buy a book about ehrnst Sep 2019 #107
Bernie has made himself a footnote in history randr Sep 2019 #81
K&R nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #89
In other words, Bernie is totally disloyal to Democrats, it's all about him and him only. lark Sep 2019 #98
Sounds like a hail mary in an attempt to make himself look more mavericky than ehrnst Sep 2019 #99
And all those Bernie-or-Busters that voted for tRump or sat it out? Zambero Sep 2019 #102
Not that I was going to vote for Sanders anyway nykym Sep 2019 #103
Like the community theater actor who says that they "weren't that impressed" with Meryl Streep's ehrnst Sep 2019 #106
When is he going to stop bashing Democrats!!! redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #108
This may be a preview of how BS would conduct himself in office. Politicub Sep 2019 #110
Fortunately, the odds of that are nil. n/t PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #113
Oh, you. Politicub Sep 2019 #120
Dangerous ground. Duppers Sep 2019 #114
Hmm. ismnotwasm Sep 2019 #115
Too bad I can't alert lillypaddle Sep 2019 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author thesquanderer Sep 2019 #118
No great shock there... Blue_Tires Sep 2019 #121
Don't take what bernie said out of context. Joe941 Sep 2019 #124
lol -- it is "out of context" now BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #139
Bill Clinton is seen as a liability by a lot of young democrats Otto Lidenbrock Sep 2019 #125
Attacks on Bill Clinton were initiated by one of the candidates. BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #130
"Do I have a problem when a sitting secretary of state and a foundation run by her husband betsuni Sep 2019 #132
sigh...... samnsara Sep 2019 #127
The headline is a bit sensational Sapient Donkey Sep 2019 #129
Excuses excuses ... if any other candidate had done this, their supporters would be taken aback. nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #133
I don't think I am making excuses for anyone. Sapient Donkey Sep 2019 #137
You're absolutely correct! There's NO excuse for something like this... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #159
It is amazing isn't it? BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #160
He's a piece of work nini Sep 2019 #148
Many people share your opinions and views (myself included) ... and ... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #150
+1 betsuni Sep 2019 #155
Thank you, nini! Cha Sep 2019 #156
One of the worst things I can say about him is that I believe Hortensis Sep 2019 #157
"Did not come through on the important issues..." Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #151
Kick nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #152
Kick betsuni Sep 2019 #161
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