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renate

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12. that's Wonkette's top theory, and I am consistently impressed by Wonkette's analysis
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:35 PM
Sep 2019

(They're so funny, but they are also a great source of information.)

Donald Trump just the other day finally stopped holding up $250 million in already approved military aid to Ukraine, aid specifically to help Ukraine fight against Russia, which he was trying to strangle in its crib for what we imagine were pro-Putin bullshit reasons. He only unfroze it because Congress -- Dick Durbin and Lindsey Graham in particular -- forced him to, just like in the past he's only signed Russian sanctions because Congress forced him to. He finally lifted the hold last Wednesday, which was September 11, two days before Adam Schiff went public with the existence of the whistleblower complaint. (And reportedly the State Department is sweetening the pot for Ukraine with another $140 million in aid, maybe!)

Trump does not generally support Ukraine's resistance efforts against Russia, and he does generally support Putin's "annexation" (what a stupid euphemism that is for INVASION) of the Crimean peninsula. He runs around all the time, including at the recent G7, talking about how Putin was only kicked out of the G7 (then the G8) because he "outsmarted" Obama, when it actually was international punishment for the Crimean invasion. At other times, he's essentially argued that Putin has a right to that land, because after all, those people speak Russian, so Putin must be the real boss of them.

So what might Ukraine be able to do for Trump? Have you heard of ... UKRAINIUM ONE? AKA the fake "scandal" Rudy Giuliani has been traveling the world trying to encourage Ukraine to "investigate," as Trump has been essentially demanding the Ukrainian government open a fake investigation in order to prove "corruption" by Joe Biden? (It is such a complicated and convoluted and stupid story, but if you need to crash-course, Liz has been writing about that too. It's a made-up claim that Biden somehow forced Ukraine to stop an investigation and fire the prosecutor looking into a company his idiot son Hunter was on the board of.) Also Giuliani wants Ukraine to FESS UP and say its government only paid Paul Manafort blood money in order to do Deep State plots against Trump, God, who even knows what that senile old shitstain is talking about.

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Oh, another thing: Remember all that money Trump wants to steal from the military to pay for WALL? Rachel Maddow reported two weeks ago on how a lot of the money Trump wants to steal is specifically money allocated as part of the European Deterrence Initiative, formerly known as the European Reassurance Initiative, which the Obama administration started in 2014 to protect NATO members and Eastern European allies from the Russians.

https://www.wonkette.com/what-did-trump-promise-to-the-president-of-ukraine-or-russia-or-you-know-whoever

How crazy is it that the damn wall is connected to Putin's dreams of weakening NATO?!?! And that Ukraine has anything to do with Trump's potential opponent in 2020? It's been said so many times, but if this were a novel nobody would believe a word of what we are living through.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
THIS is the most likely lapfog_1 Sep 2019 #1
"The Worm Turns", stay tuned saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #2
My bet is that it's the top level spy who had to be extracted. Firestorm49 Sep 2019 #3
That's entirely plausible. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #4
I have had the feeling that the promise was in exchange for some kind of election help as that emmaverybo Sep 2019 #5
Great find. I never thought of that. It makes perfect sense. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2019 #6
I thought this at first, but changed my mind when I realized OKNancy Sep 2019 #7
Seth Abramson: Yeah, this is impeachable. Instantly impeachable. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #8
Absolutely. dalton99a Sep 2019 #39
Trump and Giuliani's Quest for Fake Ukraine "Dirt" on Biden: An Explainer. Link: highplainsdem Sep 2019 #9
Jennifer Rubin says the info at this link suggests Pence needs to be impeached as well: highplainsdem Sep 2019 #17
Here's some of Ghoul's thoughts on his Ukraine "investigation".. Cha Sep 2019 #18
Rudy's meltdown on CNN this evening is all over Twitter. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #28
I bet! Were you watching live? Cha Sep 2019 #30
Here's a tweet with 10 minutes of the interview: highplainsdem Sep 2019 #29
Thanks.. this will be good for those who Cha Sep 2019 #31
Mediaite article with 3 video clips totalling nearly half hour, complete Giuliani interview/meltdown highplainsdem Sep 2019 #36
lol@trainwreck interview! Cha Sep 2019 #37
I do believe it has to do with getting help with 2020 election mischief. nt Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #10
Thank you, highplains for all Cha Sep 2019 #11
that's Wonkette's top theory, and I am consistently impressed by Wonkette's analysis renate Sep 2019 #12
Dan Pfeiffer: If this is true, Congress needs to begin impreachment proceedings immediately. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #13
Jennfer Rubin: If true, this is bribery & a high crime and misdemeanor, & impeachment is imperative. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #14
Lock, stock and 21 smoking barrels crazytown Sep 2019 #15
Well, there ya go. Cha Sep 2019 #19
Laurence Tribe calls it a smoking howitzer: highplainsdem Sep 2019 #21
"in return for dirt on a political opponent's family" crazytown Sep 2019 #25
Yes, it is. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #27
"Smoking howitzer, anyone?" Cha Sep 2019 #35
Rachel Maddow is discussing this now. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #16
Thank you.. please let us Cha Sep 2019 #20
She didn't really have anything new to add. She had one of the WaPo reporters on, highplainsdem Sep 2019 #24
So you were right! Cha Sep 2019 #26
Joe Lockhart: If true, this is a hundred times worse than Watergate. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #22
And, if true and very proveable.. this Cha Sep 2019 #23
This!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #33
.. Cha Sep 2019 #34
+1 dalton99a Sep 2019 #38
I just don't understand how the Mrs. Conway keeps her job knowing how thin skinned trump is. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #32
Kick for George Conway and all who Cha Sep 2019 #40
This is the lead story on Morning Joe this morning, along with Giuliani's insane CNN appearance. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #41
Good morning and Thank you! Cha Sep 2019 #42
They're asking if what Trump did is bribery or extortion. The word "treason" was used, too. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #43
Wonder if the traitor is Cha Sep 2019 #45
And Elise Jordan said Giuliani needs to be "pulled off to hospice." Last night she tweeted that highplainsdem Sep 2019 #44
Wow.. From what I saw and Cha Sep 2019 #46
Almost every tweet I saw about Rudy's interview described it as a meltdown. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #47
Yeah, "meltdown" was definitely Cha Sep 2019 #48
Benjamin Wittes just said if this is true, it's extortion. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #50
Benjamin Wittes sounds like he should know.. Cha Sep 2019 #51
Promises of Big Money to a Foreign Nation in Exchange For Hurting a Political Rival DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #49
Biden was always going to be 2020 nemisis for trump and GOP, they had 4 years to crucify beachbumbob Sep 2019 #52
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