Democratic Primaries

Tiggeroshii

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1. I think as the field narrows there will ve more time for sanders and warren to clearly lay out m4a.

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Fri Sep 13, 2019, 02:20 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Will SOMEBODY get honest about Universal Healthcare? [View all] Thunderbeast Sep 2019 OP

I think as the field narrows there will ve more time for sanders and warren to clearly lay out m4a. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #1

and then we will lose 43 states, the house and the senate BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #3

So what's your solution, then? moose65 Sep 2019 #5

I am FOR Medicare for all. Thunderbeast Sep 2019 #21

That's very fair Mike 03 Sep 2019 #32

we need to start by controling costs questionseverything Sep 2019 #59

I'm for Medicare For All Who Want it but your dire prediction is over the top. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2019 #6

It is not. BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #10

Ummm...I think you have your decades wrong...n/t TCJ70 Sep 2019 #18

Thank you kindly. I made the corrections. BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #25

Only if you make a habit of it! n/t TCJ70 Sep 2019 #27

Spoken like someone who knows nothing about universal healthcare Bev54 Sep 2019 #62

I'd like to know just who is soaking up all the extreme profits. Kablooie Sep 2019 #2

It is an urban myth that there are obscene profits in health care BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #9

Sure, here is a list of health care CEO's who have made out like thieves ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #13

Those numbers are paltry as compared to BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #14

That was a weak deflection ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #15

CEO skills remain the same regardless of the industry BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #24

No ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #28

It is all about begrudging people who make money nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #44

Straw man.... ehrnst Sep 2019 #45

Health care INSURANCE companies are the problem. Gross profits, Nt. Ninga Sep 2019 #31

We live in a free market economy. BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #37

Wall Street would agree. Meanwhile, the working poor and destitute are collateral damage Ninga Sep 2019 #38

So is the goal to punish insurance companies, or is it to get universal health care? ehrnst Sep 2019 #46

Health care insurance companies don't profit as much as you might think. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #49

There's a difference between the health insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #50

Please explain a couple things then regarding obscene profits. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #16

Great points thanks ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #20

Many reasons BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #23

One reason is malpractice insurance, another is the way that insurance ehrnst Sep 2019 #80

I have traveled extensively in Europe and asked people there if they would give up their health CTyankee Sep 2019 #22

It tells us that they are culturally different BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #26

They know a lot about our health care. Most I talk to shudder at the thought of our type of CTyankee Sep 2019 #34

Other countries are used to much higher taxes. However, these are rankling workers in France, emmaverybo Sep 2019 #55

So have I ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #29

With my employer-based private plan: Thunderbeast Sep 2019 #30

"It is an urban myth that there are obscene profits in health care" LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #41

Anyone's profit can surge 29% BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #43

First, that's from 2017, more than two years ago. Second that is a 29% increase over the previous.. George II Sep 2019 #48

Why is cost of US investment only absorbed by *our* system... Beartracks Sep 2019 #52

Fair question BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #56

Thanks for the informative response. n/t Beartracks Sep 2019 #71

How do you define "obscene"? KPN Sep 2019 #54

I didn't use the word "extreme" in my post nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #58

Thank you for the correction. I edited. KPN Sep 2019 #66

"obscene" is how some of the people perceive it BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #67

BS Bev54 Sep 2019 #63

So you really don't have any "objective" rebuttal BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #68

Right wing drivel... JackFrost Sep 2019 #78

And yet, the US has poorer outcomes when you see a scoring of health outcomes of other CTyankee Sep 2019 #84

OK, I beg to differ. Substantially. PatrickforO Sep 2019 #88

I Your op is very bias prejudice opinionated therefore not honest wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #4

So why can't we do it, then? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #7

We haven't put it together yet wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #8

So there's no reason we can't do it at this point? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #12

Do something you haven't got the slightest idea how to go about and cannot wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #17

I like to say that ours is a country that won world war II and put a man on the moon and we can't CTyankee Sep 2019 #35

See post No. 9 BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #11

What are you talking about? Bev54 Sep 2019 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Mike 03 Sep 2019 #19

Without a realistic path (and I'm not talking about a plan), the goals won't be reached. gulliver Sep 2019 #33

No one talks about the loss of jobs in communities with private insurance 5starlib Sep 2019 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #40

When I was a boy. Blue_true Sep 2019 #47

I agree. I would say one thing, just about any medical school grad can get loan forgiveness by Hoyt Sep 2019 #51

You hit the nail on the head, the head that many seem to not understand - although they are.... George II Sep 2019 #53

Warren tells the truth, just not in sound bytes the GOP can use. LAS14 Sep 2019 #57

Lofty promises without an explanation of how they will really happen elocs Sep 2019 #60

None of the candidates explain it properly Bev54 Sep 2019 #61

Sure, I'll be honest: I love it! Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #64

I thought Canada did do it in a pragmatic incremental manner dansolo Sep 2019 #75

There may have been some provinces that had their own systems, but once Tommy Douglas' plan passed Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #79

I think we frame the argument poorly. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #69

Insurance is the method to deny people coverage while lining the Politicub Sep 2019 #70

Speaker Pelosi-There's no need to reinvent health care -- just improve Obamacare Gothmog Sep 2019 #72

Societal Savings are not tax revenues and cannot be used to play for this plan Gothmog Sep 2019 #73

+1000. Trillions of dollars being switched from one part of the economy to another in just 2 years ehrnst Sep 2019 #81

No, voters are not smart enough to figure out that MFA is cheaper, not as a whole. elocs Sep 2019 #74

K&R Auggie Sep 2019 #76

For full honesty, it's not a POTUS issue for the most part. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #77

Oh, where to begin with this??? Crafty Girl Sep 2019 #82

Any finite quantity *will* be rationed (apportioned) in some manner The Mouth Sep 2019 #83

Howard dean said universal health care could be paid using tariffs Mosby Sep 2019 #85

Bloomberg op-ed on Buttigieg health plan MBS Sep 2019 #86

NBC/WSJ poll shows Biden's healthcare stance (optional Medicare buy-in) much more popular Gothmog Sep 2019 #87