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In reply to the discussion: Biden rejects report he flubbed details in anecdote about war heroes [View all]Cha
(296,679 posts)24. "Tempests in Teapots"..
Joe was twice accused of, and acknowledged (in a loose sense), plagiarizing; one time what he said, the other what he wrote.
It's hardly as bad as it seems; the first was a one off where he cited in a speech a british member of parliament Neil Kinnock's speech, forgetting that day to note Neil, whereas Joe had indeed credited Neil in six previous incidences of the very speech.
The second was as a freshman in college, claiming he was unfamiliar with the rules for citing sources, quelle surprise, happens regularly to freshman college students. Sophomores too.
It's hardly as bad as it seems; the first was a one off where he cited in a speech a british member of parliament Neil Kinnock's speech, forgetting that day to note Neil, whereas Joe had indeed credited Neil in six previous incidences of the very speech.
The second was as a freshman in college, claiming he was unfamiliar with the rules for citing sources, quelle surprise, happens regularly to freshman college students. Sophomores too.
Both were members of a left-wing party, waging war against the far-right leaders of their countries, Thatcher and Reagan. And that's why Neil Kinnock, when asked whether he was bothered by the appropriation of his words, responded that he wasn't; to the contrary, he {Kinnock} confessed to feeling 'flattered'. https://psuaw.blogspot.com/
Wiki: {Biden} earned his bachelor's in 1965 from the Univ of Delaware, with a double major in history and political science ... He then entered Syracuse University College of Law,... During his first year there, he was accused of having plagiarized five of 15 pages of a law review article. Biden said it was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and he was permitted to retake the course after receiving an "F" grade, which was subsequently dropped from his record.. He received his Juris Doctor in 1968, graduating 76th of 85 in his class. Biden was admitted to the Delaware bar in 1969
May 1989: Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. was cleared of allegations that he committed plagiarism in law school by a panel under the authority of the Delaware Supreme Court ... The alleged law school plagiarism involved an essay Mr. Biden wrote in 1965 for an introductory class on legal methodology. 'A Personal Vindication'
May 1989: Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. was cleared of allegations that he committed plagiarism in law school by a panel under the authority of the Delaware Supreme Court ... The alleged law school plagiarism involved an essay Mr. Biden wrote in 1965 for an introductory class on legal methodology. 'A Personal Vindication'
A third example of plagiarism came to mind, same blog link above: What does Melania Trump's plagiarism tell us? .. Melania Trump got up last night to further her husband's success, and took her cue from Michelle Obama eight years ago. Her speech contained phrases which can only have been copied from the First Lady's earlier address, and so have been labelled as plagiarism.
This is a damning accusation and has prompted recollections of the last big plagiarism scandal to rock a US election, when Joseph Biden re-used Neil Kinnock's 'Thousand Generations' speech, was promptly labelled a plagiarist, and was forced to withdraw from the campaign
https://www.democraticunderground.com/128753436
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Biden rejects report he flubbed details in anecdote about war heroes [View all]
brooklynite
Aug 2019
OP
I tend to agree ... doubling down on an unforced error is not a good look ...
mr_lebowski
Aug 2019
#26
Frankly, most of these "Biden did this, forgot that" OPs might have a little credibility
elocs
Aug 2019
#2
Agree. Many of the "undecideds" here show definite preferences, and opposition
highplainsdem
Aug 2019
#9
I agree. I really hope we don't end up as mean as a past primary season was.
marble falls
Aug 2019
#13
This New Yorker article explains how even college students scramble remembered details:
highplainsdem
Aug 2019
#5
Memory studies show that people in the same/place /time/experience remember things differently.
ancianita
Aug 2019
#14
Exactly. As I mentioned to someone else here today, I've seen my relatives at family reunions
highplainsdem
Aug 2019
#16
Your experience is the same as everyone else's. This memory crap about Biden is ageist BS.
ancianita
Aug 2019
#18
Peter Hamby had a really good piece about this stupid media coverage in Vanity Fair a couple of days
highplainsdem
Aug 2019
#19
I've gotten Vanity Fair for 20+ yrs, New Yorker for 30, and yep, this is good media criticism.
ancianita
Aug 2019
#20
Considering he has been around a while it is easy to get time and events confused.
LiberalFighter
Aug 2019
#17
Sure all Republicans no doubt who remember it differently ...good thing most don't believe shit
Demsrule86
Aug 2019
#21