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Reply to highplainsdem (Reply #70)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 10:33 PM

Aug 2019

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden: "Imagine if Obama had been assassinated" [View all] left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 OP

Oh for Christ's sake Joe. Why go there? dem4decades Aug 2019 #1

Seriously!! WTF?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #33

My thought exactly. It's not a gaffe but it shouldn't have been uttered. Just as with the... brush Aug 2019 #265

wtf? Does Biden have no internal filter? bluewater Aug 2019 #2

Where are Joe's handlers?! They need to put a stop to this awkward ad libbing!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #43

What was the point he was trying to make? n/t MarcA Aug 2019 #123

Not sure, but no worse than Hillary's similar comment about Obama. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #217

Joe. You don't have to SAY everything you THINK mahina Aug 2019 #184

I honestly don't understand how Biden is our front runner. Ace Rothstein Aug 2019 #3

More people support him than any other candidate. n/t Scurrilous Aug 2019 #7

Not here they don't... and the downward trend is evident. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #45

No, Joe gained a percentage point in the past few days while Harris lost one. Princetonian Aug 2019 #196

Oh okay... hadn't noticed, but, you're right. Maybe Joe will get his lead back... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #210

I doubt it but no worries. Princetonian Aug 2019 #228

Thanks!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #285

DU is not typical of Dem voters though. Chemisse Aug 2019 #227

For how much longer? True Dough Aug 2019 #54

That could also be a metaphor for Mayor Pete's campaign BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #101

Even if he's not the nominee True Dough Aug 2019 #124

Not if he doesn't get to a higher office. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #130

He will be coveted by the next administration True Dough Aug 2019 #141

Not if Pete keeps up the ageist language that underpins his rationale of why he should be POTUS. Princetonian Aug 2019 #178

I agree. Mayor Pete has a very bright future in secondwind Aug 2019 #173

It's democratic party Solomon Aug 2019 #203

"Democrat" party? cwydro Aug 2019 #205

No such thing as the Democrat Party. MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #240

Don't worry about the responses you got because of your minor mistake in semantics mtnsnake Aug 2019 #242

Nitpick? nt zackymilly Aug 2019 #296

I think he is a future star of the Party. Chemisse Aug 2019 #229

It's early yet. Pete can recover. Autumn Aug 2019 #244

Oh... there goes Bernie... now I see Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #114

Is that your imagery for Pete's relationship with the AA voters? Princetonian Aug 2019 #176

Wow.. you sure have a lot of Cha Aug 2019 #206

You don't say? Ace Rothstein Aug 2019 #129

I think the poster know that! The question is why. mobeau69 Aug 2019 #263

Not Biden is about 2x Biden. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #267

I don't get it either. Watching the video was almost surreal. Seems to be a small venue, Autumn Aug 2019 #19

I have no favorite in this primary... pangaia Aug 2019 #34

No. It really occurred. I don't even know what to say about it. The whole video was Autumn Aug 2019 #38

A whole generation energized through political assassinations + trigger happy suppression of rights lunasun Aug 2019 #133

its everyday now questionseverything Aug 2019 #36

Did you watch the video? Is anyone on his team paying attention? Autumn Aug 2019 #44

i can't get the video to play , i had read about it earlier on my news feed questionseverything Aug 2019 #48

'he definitely needs some young blood influencing his campaign' Celerity Aug 2019 #62

It's gone beyond that now. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #121

No, it's the same shit, different day. Princetonian Aug 2019 #188

if i liked his policies better i would care less about the gaffes questionseverything Aug 2019 #213

I think the party leaders know what's what... why we need Bernie or Elizabeth!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #47

Daily Joe bashing OP is cherrypicked clickbait not reality-based. Princetonian Aug 2019 #187

Thanks to daily OPs always featuring media whores' cherrypicked clickbait aimed at Joe. Princetonian Aug 2019 #246

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I usually just read the news article and quotes and not watch his speeches. Watching this was Autumn Aug 2019 #252

Name recognition at this early stage. (Remember "Joementum"!) nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #29

Reflected glory BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #32

Name recognition mainly. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #53

I understand Obama's feelings about Joe, but he's earned his shot as a loyal VP... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #162

I don't either. I guess it's partly because of the media pining for a geriatric showdown mtnsnake Aug 2019 #55

It's still early dflprincess Aug 2019 #112

'Familiar and safe.' You nailed it. Chemisse Aug 2019 #233

Two words... progressoid Aug 2019 #117

he was Obama's VP and Obama is popular among Democrats JI7 Aug 2019 #168

On this one I'll kindly and respectfully say "no thank you." Devil Child Aug 2019 #4

Oh boy... NRaleighLiberal Aug 2019 #5

Surely you can't be serious, Joe dalton99a Aug 2019 #6

Uh,...all I have to go on is... that link....... pangaia Aug 2019 #8

here left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #11

Thanks,.. He wanted to be a senator by the age of 30. He just made it...... :)) pangaia Aug 2019 #30

Why do this? NT enough Aug 2019 #9

Maybe the most tone-deaf remark so far this campaign season? n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2019 #10

And it's dangerous bluewater Aug 2019 #13

I'm sure Joe meant well... but I hear ya! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #214

Not a good look, that's for sure... no idea what he was thinkin. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #211

more ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #12

Jeeze Joe! JoeOtterbein Aug 2019 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Aug 2019 #23

Also this melman Aug 2019 #22

"We finally were in a position where we started to begin the women's movement." pangaia Aug 2019 #57

Holy fuck melman Aug 2019 #14

Over 40 kids were not shot at Kent State on a beautiful lawn. 4 were killed 9 were injured at Autumn Aug 2019 #25

That video is pretty unsettling melman Aug 2019 #85

The man looked and sounded exhausted. This is not okay. Autumn Aug 2019 #91

Yeah, maybe Joe should rest up before hitting the campaign trail again... no shame in that. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #218

LOL You always say this. Joe looked serious and somber as befitting the tragic context. Princetonian Aug 2019 #238

With all due respect that not true. I don't always say that. I have since I watched this video .nt Autumn Aug 2019 #239

You're saying my eyes are lying? I look forward to your next iteration. Princetonian Aug 2019 #256

If you think that I think you're lying who am I to disagree with you? You are the one saying that Autumn Aug 2019 #261

Uh huh. Princetonian Aug 2019 #262

I see you can't discuss this so looks like this back and forth is over. Autumn Aug 2019 #269

I heard a longer clip of the speech. He was contrasting the "drop out" attitude of 1967 highplainsdem Aug 2019 #16

IT'S DANGEROUS. Making excuses is simply wrong. bluewater Aug 2019 #18

I said I wish he hadn't brought it up. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #26

Thank you. Corgigal Aug 2019 #97

I was of the perfect coming of age age in 1968.. born in 1943, so you can imagine... pangaia Aug 2019 #40

The knee jerk and high hopes by some desperate, deeply frustrated folks in the thread is amusing. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #105

".. High hopes.. " is right.. I always read a BannonsLiver Cha Aug 2019 #198

THE HILL TROLLS DEMOCRATS sharedvalues Aug 2019 #179

It would have been catastrophic. Many of us constantly pondered the possibility. Hilary alluded emmaverybo Aug 2019 #17

Jesus. H. Christ. RhodeIslandOne Aug 2019 #20

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OMG! Biden apologists gonna need to "swallow a little bit" more, lol Baclava Aug 2019 #24

Joe reminisces some more about the 70's Ponietz Aug 2019 #28

Did Warren ever say who she voted for President in the 70's? Princetonian Aug 2019 #183

100% confidence she won't get the decade wrong if asked Ponietz Aug 2019 #236

If she did and corrected herself immediately afterwards, it's fine. Do you know who she voted for? Princetonian Aug 2019 #241

Your guy was way out of line with his comment Ponietz Aug 2019 #249

Tweets from people who were there disagree with you... Princetonian Aug 2019 #254

All those are from paid Biden staffers, right? Ponietz Aug 2019 #264

Ask them. One man was an attendee and called out Cilizza as a lying media whore. Ask him. Princetonian Aug 2019 #268

Their Twitter feeds indicate they work for Biden Ponietz Aug 2019 #270

This is the first tweet about what Joe said written by an attendee. He slams "false controversies". Princetonian Aug 2019 #271

Where do you get that this guy, with 19 followers, was an attendee? Ponietz Aug 2019 #272

Well, at least Joe never voted for Reagan. Twice. That's embarrassing. Princetonian Aug 2019 #182

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False Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #273

I was talking about Joe but now that you mention Warren's voting history, I checked and found... Princetonian Aug 2019 #274

Here you go Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #281

She's been asked about it. She declined to answer. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #278

Here's her voting record Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #280

And you provide no proof of you rclaim Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #282

here is your proof, please stop pushing debunked misinformation on Warren Celerity Aug 2019 #293

OMG!! We got the Context!!! Cha Aug 2019 #192

It's bad, def, but not a game changer either... pretty much par for the course. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #215

Another day another mob of gulping Biden apologists come running to swallow as one, lol Baclava Aug 2019 #221

Trying to smear an empathetic teaching moment? Content matters. Intent matters. Princetonian Aug 2019 #224

Teaching moment? Telling those poor kids 40 people were shot at Kent State? Baclava Aug 2019 #294

Thanks, the photo is great. The kids look just right, considering the topic: focused and serious. Princetonian Aug 2019 #297

I do notice that... fair point! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #284

We do not need another old man dealing with his enough Aug 2019 #27

Well said, enough. mtnsnake Aug 2019 #231

SMDH, really SMDH Celerity Aug 2019 #31

The crowd didn't react because they understood what he meant OKNancy Aug 2019 #35

Agree. There was no sign from the video that anyone there was shocked or offended. I do still highplainsdem Aug 2019 #49

Yeah, just look at the response among DUers True Dough Aug 2019 #60

I see quite a few perennial Biden critics expressing outrage once again. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #73

The number of Biden critics will continue to grow True Dough Aug 2019 #76

We'll see. But since I don't consider any of the other current candidates even half as qualified highplainsdem Aug 2019 #83

Indeed Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #98

More Insults and Wishful Thinking.. your Cha Aug 2019 #208

I wonder how many outraged by thiss were bowing before will Pitt when he called President Obama a "P still_one Aug 2019 #87

There are a few who have completely lost credibility treestar Aug 2019 #248

I see a lot of people hoping this is the one that finally does him in. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #109

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Awww BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #132

Uh huh. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #128

And his point was? cwydro Aug 2019 #207

Where's the video? Were the attendees as outraged as DUers? Princetonian Aug 2019 #37

No. He is getting the Hillary treatment OKNancy Aug 2019 #41

Every day is character assassination day for Biden. Sickening. NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #52

Cillizza's getting slammed on Twitter for taking the remark out of context. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #70

Like this?.. Cha Aug 2019 #92

Thanks, Cha. Cillizza for sleezy. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #172

Hi Cha! treestar Aug 2019 #251

Yeah, they're so transparent.. Good Cha Aug 2019 #288

That is the whole point still_one Aug 2019 #94

This MustLoveBeagles Aug 2019 #42

here, and the in-person crowd's reaction is unimportant overall, as millions are seeing or Celerity Aug 2019 #50

Thanks, Celerity. After watching the video, I thought Joe made a thoughtful point about... Princetonian Aug 2019 #61

beyond the 'what if' question on Obama being assassinated, Biden said over 40 kids were shot Celerity Aug 2019 #72

He misremembered. Like many, I have no idea how many died.Barack once said he visited all 57 states. Princetonian Aug 2019 #78

Obama's '57 states' was a simple misspeaking. He is/was a brilliant constitutional law scholar. Celerity Aug 2019 #88

Well stated! True Dough Aug 2019 #135

Meanwhile, Pete will always be at zero percent with AA voters. Princetonian Aug 2019 #190

Are you serious? Trump is the poster boy for crazy stupid insane. Princetonian Aug 2019 #140

What is ageist? I used no reference to age. I am strictly speaking Celerity Aug 2019 #148

Here... Princetonian Aug 2019 #157

Again, not ageist. I am speaking to ability. nt Celerity Aug 2019 #175

Ageist bigotry is not cool. Neither are euphemisms for it. Princetonian Aug 2019 #180

Good thing I am not doing then. Celerity Aug 2019 #185

You clearly do not understand the term "projections". Princetonian Aug 2019 #194

This all has zero to do with Pete. You are taking far too a tribalistic Celerity Aug 2019 #201

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When you put it like that... it does make one have to think twice. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #220

There was even a song about it. cwydro Aug 2019 #237

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young made sure we remembered loyalsister Aug 2019 #84

I'm 23 years old, raised in London since a toddler, yet I know that song to the point it's the main Celerity Aug 2019 #96

You are entitled to your opinion Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #99

I appreciate that, thank you Thekaspervote Celerity Aug 2019 #111

You know you're making headway True Dough Aug 2019 #136

Rude Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #144

Hey, Thekaspervote! You know some are secretly envious of your candidate's popularity when... Princetonian Aug 2019 #146

I just let it bounce off my wing... no damage Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #158

It's my opinion True Dough Aug 2019 #150

Yes you are! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #155

How's Pete going to do in SC? Joe will easily make 15% with the backing of Obama Mamas like me. Princetonian Aug 2019 #156

Here's the video link thesquanderer Aug 2019 #67

Can't wait to canvas for this guy. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #39

What a rotten thing to say about Obama who is soley responsible for Biden being the front runner mtnsnake Aug 2019 #46

Stop already with the outrage. None of the attendees were upset. They understood Joe's point. Princetonian Aug 2019 #51

You call them all? ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #56

You're complaining about outrage? If Bernie Sanders said it this place would erupt for weeks mtnsnake Aug 2019 #58

I never join in the daily Bernie bashing OPs. Princetonian Aug 2019 #64

There was a video ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #69

Nonsense. Don't create strawman arguments to make trouble. Princetonian Aug 2019 #71

Thanks Mom! ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #75

I'm sure they were courteously silent True Dough Aug 2019 #63

Watch the video. Joe was making a pretty poignant point about how tragedy spurred his political... Princetonian Aug 2019 #68

Biden keeps feeding the "media whores" all kinds of fodder True Dough Aug 2019 #74

I could care less. Joe is being Joe. If you want to score points, BFD. Princetonian Aug 2019 #79

Like I said True Dough Aug 2019 #81

SOS call to Berlin crazytown Aug 2019 #90

How much support does Pete have among AA voters again? How'd that townhall go? Princetonian Aug 2019 #100

When it's recognized by enough Dems that Joe is not a viable candidate True Dough Aug 2019 #122

Actually, Harris' troubling history as DA and AG make her an unviable candidate not Joe. Princetonian Aug 2019 #134

Carrying forward the "Obama legacy" isn't the only option True Dough Aug 2019 #137

Using the language of ageist bigotry will not help Pete's cause. Princetonian Aug 2019 #145

That's a weak defense True Dough Aug 2019 #154

What's your defense for Pete's many mistakes as mayor in dealing with the AA community? Princetonian Aug 2019 #159

Pete has taken ownership of shortcomings True Dough Aug 2019 #166

"Shortcomings"? The AA community of South Bend would laugh at that. Too little too late for them. Princetonian Aug 2019 #171

What does Indianapolis have to do with Buttigieg? nt Celerity Aug 2019 #209

Why do you continue to bash other candidates? cwydro Aug 2019 #243

Irony is dead. Princetonian Aug 2019 #259

Figured you wouldn't answer. cwydro Aug 2019 #260

Your comment is so ageist. I will take his kind of experience to fix what's wrong anyday Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #169

Oh true dough.. your personally insulting Joe Biden is Cha Aug 2019 #292

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #253

Here's what the polls say about "where all that support will go." Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #161

why would sanders supporters second choice be biden? questionseverything Aug 2019 #291

Per usual, more demise of mr Biden's campaign Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #107

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You didn't tell me how much AA voters support Pete. Got any numbers? Princetonian Aug 2019 #149

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Joe was letting kids relate to the horror he felt when MLK and Bobby Kennedy were assassinated. Princetonian Aug 2019 #164

Ostriches are some of the smartest and strongest birds on the planet. This bird knows exactly Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #165

Oh too too funny, my comment here was to a picture a commenter put up of an ostrich with her Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #283

hahaha!! You sure there will be enough to go around?! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #286

It is very hard to get young people engaged in a collective psychological experience from our emmaverybo Aug 2019 #103

I love the fact that Joe can get real. He can bring our history alive. He can talk the real talk and emmaverybo Aug 2019 #174

What do you expect them to do? melman Aug 2019 #77

Yes. In this day of entrenched social media, we'd have heard something by now. Princetonian Aug 2019 #82

Shit, really an attendee posted something on Twitter ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #93

That's about right. Attendees don't have an agenda. Princetonian Aug 2019 #108

Everyone has an agenda ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #113

At this point i'm all about an Obama/ Biden ticket. Michelle and Jill. dem4decades Aug 2019 #59

Joe would be better served... SergeStorms Aug 2019 #65

he is trying to target the 55 plus crowd, as that (plus 40yo + A-A's) are his main base of support Celerity Aug 2019 #80

Joe is second only to Bernie in the 30-44 age group. How did you like his two terms as VP? Princetonian Aug 2019 #89

I am not cherry-picking anything, I am applying discernment as I personally see fit to do Celerity Aug 2019 #106

Misunderstanding here. The media whores are cherrypicking not you, Celerity. Princetonian Aug 2019 #115

+1 Celerity Aug 2019 #119

Peace. Princetonian Aug 2019 #120

You are entitled to your opinion Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #110

Hillary Clinton says, "WTF, Joe. I would have been 44" aikoaiko Aug 2019 #66

Yep! 4139 Aug 2019 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author crazytown Aug 2019 #86

I'm getting tired of people taking things out of context - OhZone Aug 2019 #102

Oh well is right ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #116

Give me a break, Joe. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #104

Give yourself some context. Cha Aug 2019 #191

It's another gaffe. The context still makes it an unfortunate thing to say. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #193

Nope.. that's your opinion.. and you always Cha Aug 2019 #199

I find this interesting because during the 2008 primary season, HRC underthematrix Aug 2019 #118

She did not reference Obama. A reporter did. betsuni Aug 2019 #138

You're right. However, let's be logical about this. They (MSM) were trying to push her out of the underthematrix Aug 2019 #142

Yes. It must have been irresistible to the reporter. What a scoop! betsuni Aug 2019 #160

She did not have to. I heard her and it was obvious, but never mind. I mean come on. But she emmaverybo Aug 2019 #147

She spent years as First Lady in Arkansas and Washington getting death threats. betsuni Aug 2019 #163

Fine. Whatever. I never said she was willing Obama's assassination. The reporter did not secretly emmaverybo Aug 2019 #177

I got her point there too treestar Aug 2019 #255

It was a HYPOTHETICAL statement Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #125

And what the hell does this mean? "None of you women would know this, a couple of men may remember" progressoid Aug 2019 #131

I wondered about that, too. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #195

According to Huffpost it was an attempt at a "stale compliment" to the women in the room mtnsnake Aug 2019 #277

That's exactly what it was melman Aug 2019 #279

Jesus. progressoid Aug 2019 #298

Doubt it's as bad as portrayed. It referred to before election. But, still, why even say it? Hoyt Aug 2019 #139

Video makes it clear upthread. Princetonian Aug 2019 #153

Well look at the context. I taught college Hoyt. I brought it home to them with contemporary emmaverybo Aug 2019 #189

Thx for your experienced voice. History is brutal but has a great deal to teach us. Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #212

and that he doesnt know 4 were killed at kent state questionseverything Aug 2019 #219

What the hell. That was just plain stupid. vsrazdem Aug 2019 #143

Watch the video upthread. Here's a tweet slamming clickbait media whore Chris Cilizza... Princetonian Aug 2019 #151

I don't need to watch the video. There is no scenario where the words Obama and assassination vsrazdem Aug 2019 #202

It was a empathetic teaching moment. Context matters. So does intent. Princetonian Aug 2019 #223

Shows me his durability tirebiter Aug 2019 #167

Indeed! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #170

It was the opposite of a truth. Biden asked the audience to "imagine" the assassination pnwmom Aug 2019 #197

Oh yes.. the usual suspects are out Cha Aug 2019 #200

Joe... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #181

That's not good. CentralMass Aug 2019 #186

Watch the video. Princetonian Aug 2019 #225

Yikes. cwydro Aug 2019 #204

Joe was creating an empathetic teaching moment for the teenagers and younger crowd there. Princetonian Aug 2019 #226

Biden was traumatized as all democrats were by the assasinations. applegrove Aug 2019 #216

So, one of the explanations I've seen is he was "trying to get a younger audience to understand" melman Aug 2019 #222

Joe was trying to relate the pain & horror he felt at 18 when his political heroes were assassinated Princetonian Aug 2019 #230

Yes, they need it to be explained. betsuni Aug 2019 #232

So you quit deliberately misinterpreting the point. treestar Aug 2019 #257

"deliberately misinterpreting the point" melman Aug 2019 #275

I don't support Biden saying that, but... Mike Nelson Aug 2019 #234

The SS has gotten so sophisticated treestar Aug 2019 #258

Tweets from people who were there & replies to "sleazy headline" Princetonian Aug 2019 #235

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I know one person's reaction. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2019 #276

Obama and Biden have a special friendship. demmiblue Aug 2019 #287

Anyone as intelligent as President Obama knows how dumb it is to fall for cherrypicked click bait. Princetonian Aug 2019 #290

What a strange statement! MoonRiver Aug 2019 #289

Then Joe would have been President. I wonder if Joe ever dreamed of being President when he was VP? zackymilly Aug 2019 #295