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lapucelle

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31. All the data shows is that a number of BS primary voters chose Trump in the general.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jul 2019

Who they would have voted for if BS had made it to the general is sheer speculation. Among the most glaring assumptions is that BS would have continued to get the kid glove treatment from Republican operatives.

So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers.

https://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

In addition, WI and MI had open primaries, so determining exactly who voted BS is problematic.

As for PA, I spent weekends for almost two months before the general election traveling to PA to help voters who had been purged from the polls to re-register and to devise voting plans with marginalized voters and the working poor to try to ensure that they were able to get to the polls on election day.

The 2016 general was the first presidential election after the Roberts Court gutted the Voting Rights Act. I saw first hand, sitting at their kitchen tables that for people in some communities, exercising the franchise is a genuinely difficult task.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
I have been saying this since before VP Biden got into the race... that Sen Warren Peacetrain Jul 2019 #1
I'm one who fell for Bernie before I realized LakeArenal Jul 2019 #2
i would be fine with Warren who is a BONAFIDE Dem. Not fine with Sanders, who claims he isn't. onetexan Jul 2019 #14
Can't be fine with Warren... LakeArenal Jul 2019 #17
Not Surprised Me. Jul 2019 #3
No Hillary to vote against this time. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #4
That would explain the Sanders to Trump voters in 2016. lapucelle Jul 2019 #5
Those numbers indicate Sanders beats Trump in those states... thesquanderer Jul 2019 #26
All the data shows is that a number of BS primary voters chose Trump in the general. lapucelle Jul 2019 #31
re: "Who they would have voted for if BS had made it to the general is sheer speculation. " thesquanderer Jul 2019 #32
I wouldn't assume anything. I would simply look at the data. lapucelle Jul 2019 #34
True that if every BS voted had voted for HRC, she'd have won. BUT... thesquanderer Jul 2019 #35
I was very active in 2008, and I don't agree with you at all. lapucelle Jul 2019 #38
I agree. The entrenced and cultivated hatred was/is real.. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #18
2016 was all about hatred against one woman . JI7 Jul 2019 #24
Right. If he were currently running 1-on-1 against Hillary, prob near 100% would... thesquanderer Jul 2019 #25
"It's silly to read a lot into..." TwilightZone Jul 2019 #30
Can't wait to see BS in single digits nt LibFarmer Jul 2019 #6
Soon...IMHO Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #8
... Me. Jul 2019 #9
My dream is that sanders does not get 300 delegates Gothmog Jul 2019 #12
I hope so too. David Sirota et al have been making noise about the convention KitSileya Jul 2019 #23
+10000 Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #16
same here lanlady Jul 2019 #39
I think a lot of people, including the junior senator from VT, forgot tishaLA Jul 2019 #7
I'm surprised Bernie would get any Clinton voters comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #10
I am not surprised by this polling Gothmog Jul 2019 #11
Well well well.. what went Cha Jul 2019 #13
I'm in that camp Progressive83 Jul 2019 #15
And yet there are still people here and elsewhere mcar Jul 2019 #19
The figures in post #5 indicate that it is likely Sanders would have won. thesquanderer Jul 2019 #28
you assume nothing else changes qazplm135 Jul 2019 #36
A friend who likes Bernie was very ecstatic Jul 2019 #20
It won't really make that big... Skid Rogue Jul 2019 #21
So in ranked choice primary voting, it comes down to Joe and Liz. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #22
Good. (nt) Paladin Jul 2019 #27
Well the number of small donors giving to his campaign is still very high. CentralMass Jul 2019 #29
Number of small donations, not number of small donors... SidDithers Jul 2019 #33
Many Bernie voters were just voting against Clinton Jose Garcia Jul 2019 #37
Wow and kick oasis Jul 2019 #40
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