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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
71. IMO, there is too much Marcia Clark in her
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:28 PM
Feb 2019

First of all, understand that I am coming at this from a handicapper perspective. It is always difficult for me on this site because I am accustomed to free-for-all environments on sports sites and sports wagering venues. Blunt assessment is valued and considered a necessity. The cheerleader types and tippy-toe types are not respected. On partisan political sites the dynamic can be reversed, and I often struggle with it.

I think Kamala Harris is much closer to John Kerry caliber than Barack Obama caliber. That would be my base summary. She is being confused as special when in fact her instincts are poor and the inherent weaknesses would show up at the wrong moments during a fall campaign. Harris certainly could defeat Trump but it would require Trump to remain at his current approval level and not 2-3 points higher.

Let me get this out of the way before going further: If we have a black female nominee then the polling is going to overstate her numbers. More people would say they would vote for her, than would actually vote for her. Misogyny is very real. The Andrew Gillum example is very fresh, and devastating to me as a Floridian. Just because a charismatic midwestern male like Barack Obama did not suffer compared to his polling does not mean the angle is gone. Nominating a black female liberal from a coastal liberal state would test every bit of it. As someone who prioritizes margin for error, I really don't want to test every bit of it.

Marcia Clark was given that O.J. Simpson case because she was incredibly effective and respected in high profile cases like Rebecca Schaeffer, the actress slain outside her complex front door. Clark was accustomed to being on offense. She thought she had special bond with jurors, particularly black female jurors. The O.J. Simpson case was being confused as a slam dunk case, by Clark and others in the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Not until the Simpson defense was far beyond anything Clark had ever encountered or could anticipate, both in caliber of argument and caliber of deceit, did all of Marcia Clark's weaknesses show up. Now she's scowling. Now she's barking. She can't believe she is actually on defense in a slam dunk case. Consequently her instincts are being tested like never before, and she butchers many big picture decisions, like allowing 9 black females on the jury despite focus groups indicating that type of juror would hold animosity to Nicole. She failed to veto the glove demonstration by Christopher Darden, which should have been Lead Prosecutor 101.

And so forth. Again, I realize comparisons like this are more common and accepted on sports sites than political sites. I do not apologize. I trust my instincts. And Kamala Harris has verified those instincts recently by failing to provide a competent response to questions about her prosecutor past. She can't wish those questions away. The "modern day lynching" comment regarding Smollett would have been a surprising gaffe from any of our other candidates. From Kamala Harris it was almost the favorite. Her explanation of that has been pathetic so far.

Our nominee is going to be on defense in fall 2020. It doesn't matter what it looks like now. Defeating an incumbent is a monumental uphill task. I want someone who understands that right how, instead of being jolted late in the game as it unfolds that way, like Marcia Clark in the mid '90s. I simply don't trust Kamala Harris in that scenario, and the type of decisions her instincts would allow when it is one barrage of new unexpected onslaught variables every day. A male is best suited to deflect that type of thing. If we nominate a female it needs to be someone with innate charisma and patience, and not an attack dog type. I have hosted enough debate watching parties to know how that type of female plays among apolitical types.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Kamala Harris [View all] Progressive2020 Feb 2019 OP
I wanna know more about her work as a prosecutor. IluvPitties Feb 2019 #1
Recommended, and welcome to DU. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #2
Check out the issues page on her website. n/t QC Feb 2019 #3
Do you have a link to that? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #62
Sadly, no. n/t QC Feb 2019 #67
I'm interested in Harris as well. Trying to learn about all of them. onecaliberal Feb 2019 #4
Google her. Her history is not progressive. roody Feb 2019 #5
Yes Progressive2020 Feb 2019 #7
Harris and Mnuchin. roody Feb 2019 #16
Her voting record is identical to Warren's. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #11
Notice how he disappeared once facts were laid out. bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #17
Thanks Garrett. When someone tries to associate Senator Harris with Manchin, that should tell still_one Feb 2019 #63
She refused to prosecute Mnuchin for forclosure fraud. roody Feb 2019 #64
Here is a good discussion of the "Harris did not prosecute Mnuchin" issue.. honest.abe Feb 2019 #70
Mnuchin contributed to one of her election campaigns. roody Feb 2019 #73
So you are claiming quid pro quo? honest.abe Feb 2019 #74
Kamala has excellent qualifications and experience.. I think Cha Feb 2019 #12
Wow. 222,222 posts! Yikes ... and a nice symmetrical number to boot! KPN Feb 2019 #58
She ranks as the most Progressive Senator. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #14
Senator, perhaps. Prosecutor, No. liberalnarb Feb 2019 #26
She isn't running for Prosecutor. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #27
Yes, she has been a Progressive force during her career in the senate. liberalnarb Feb 2019 #45
Excellent post Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #34
Remarkable isnt it? honest.abe Feb 2019 #51
It's remarkable in its predictability, sadly Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #60
Yeah, it's not accurate based on her time as a Senator for sure. KPN Feb 2019 #61
I googled her. Harris the most progressive senator serving. lapucelle Feb 2019 #30
As Californian I support her because she has the experience, resume and cares about people in all wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #6
That's a wonderful Cha Feb 2019 #13
Thanks. I voted for her twice already. wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #22
SF Bay Area Cartoonist Feb 2019 #8
I'd vote for her in the primary if I had to vote today... TJKay Feb 2019 #9
What do you mean by progressive? EricMaundry Feb 2019 #10
She ranks #1 progressive Senator. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #15
Her record as a prosecutor is troubling. liberalnarb Feb 2019 #18
Please be specific. honest.abe Feb 2019 #19
I'm deeply disturbed by the hardline anti truancy crackdown she oversaw. liberalnarb Feb 2019 #23
That issue seems to be one following her but she did recently respond directly to the criticism.. honest.abe Feb 2019 #24
This response certainly doesn't calm my concerns. liberalnarb Feb 2019 #25
I agree it does seem a bit harsh but its clearly a complicated issue. honest.abe Feb 2019 #31
In my opinion the solution to the problem would be making sure these families have a standard of liberalnarb Feb 2019 #42
Well, yes that would be a better solution if it were feasible. honest.abe Feb 2019 #54
As a former Principal........ MyOwnPeace Feb 2019 #32
Maybe the poorer families were more concerned about the other issues that come with being in that liberalnarb Feb 2019 #39
Y'know, that could be possible......... MyOwnPeace Feb 2019 #49
Incarceration is not a solution to truancy I will ever support. liberalnarb Feb 2019 #50
We never incarcerated...... MyOwnPeace Feb 2019 #55
You may not have. Senator Harris did. nt. liberalnarb Feb 2019 #56
Do you have some specifics you can point to? Because I've been somewhat impressed with her, but at KPN Feb 2019 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Feb 2019 #65
I really like her in many ways. honest.abe Feb 2019 #20
You'd probably get the best info by Googling her on your own... Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #21
She said rownesheck Feb 2019 #28
I don't like how she stereotyped Jamaicans exboyfil Feb 2019 #29
I may be wrong rownesheck Feb 2019 #33
So what it is still a stereotype exboyfil Feb 2019 #35
Perhaps how Senator Harris Stare Decisis Feb 2019 #37
She owns her identity. Politicub Feb 2019 #52
Well..... USALiberal Feb 2019 #59
Here is how she compares to other Dems when it comes to voting with Trump Quixote1818 Feb 2019 #36
A tough on crime Stare Decisis Feb 2019 #38
Read this.... USALiberal Feb 2019 #43
While I really don't care for her tough on crime history, you are probably right Quixote1818 Feb 2019 #44
Read this article..... USALiberal Feb 2019 #40
That's an opinion piece cherry picking the most controversial cases. honest.abe Feb 2019 #46
Not sure i agree with her results in that job, especially pot, not good IMO nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #47
I really do not understand the obsession with a candidate's position on pot. honest.abe Feb 2019 #48
I love her. ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #41
This Georgia boy sent her money.............. MRDAWG Feb 2019 #53
I would suggest watching some of the clips of her town hall videos wildflower Feb 2019 #57
Her support for asset forfeiture as CA AG kelly1mm Feb 2019 #68
Watch her during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing... SKKY Feb 2019 #69
IMO, there is too much Marcia Clark in her Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #71
Thanks Progressive2020 Feb 2019 #72
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