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ehrnst

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58. You mean the all day meeting that he stopped in for an hour?
Fri May 24, 2019, 01:32 PM
May 2019

He had all day to stop in for that meeting for an hour, but chose to do so right when that vote to sanction a Russian oligharch was going on?

And so... if a vote "won't make a difference" it's pointless to show up and vote?

That's odd. I hear that Sanders praised for casting dissenting votes - even if it won't make a difference - for "conscience" reasons.

Are you saying that's not the case with him anymore?



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
OP's that start with "Honest Question..." demmiblue May 2019 #1
So? Cha May 2019 #89
Exactly. aikoaiko May 2019 #100
It is embarrassing that some can't suss out the true nature of OP's like this. demmiblue May 2019 #147
the only reason you're in this thread is to add drama. Correct? Kurt V. May 2019 #151
I've done it. And it was because I wasn't trying to fight. nolabear May 2019 #144
I'm smart enough to figure out what flamebait is... especially when there is a pattern. demmiblue May 2019 #145
That's really too bad. It's exhausting enough without flame bait. nolabear May 2019 #148
Imagine how much more sense this would all make if we could only talk about DEMOCRATS Eliot Rosewater May 2019 #2
He votes more like a Democrat than most Democrats JonLP24 May 2019 #12
Yeah, there's definitely a built in inconsistency to what KPN May 2019 #39
I don't think we as a party should ban intraparty criticism JonLP24 May 2019 #43
Intraparty? Sanders is not part of the party! question everything May 2019 #76
They don't get it Vidal May 2019 #80
+1 Cha May 2019 #90
Im pretty sure those 2 voted for the latest round of Russia sanctions BannonsLiver May 2019 #48
Krysten Sinema voted to confirm Barr JonLP24 May 2019 #51
Lots of Democrats including members of the leadership in both the House and the totodeinhere May 2019 #146
Except when he doesn't GeniusJoy May 2019 #78
Lol..Thank you! whathehell May 2019 #101
No he doesn't George II May 2019 #126
Bernie IS a Democrat for all intents & purposes...why he's ahead of 20 other Democrats in the polls InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #127
Because there are about 23 Democrats Lithos May 2019 #129
Think he's still in 2nd place in most polls... so, make that ahead of 21 other Democrats. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #130
Keep this brain-sucking twist up and you may just disappear Hortensis May 2019 #156
... Tipperary May 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2019 #3
Honest answer: Warren is a Democrat! question everything May 2019 #4
And... BOOM!! NurseJackie May 2019 #5
their plans are the same but Bernie's not a "real" Democrat? shanny May 2019 #18
So, tell me, if their "plans are the same" why won't Bernie identify as a Democrat ehrnst May 2019 #33
Touche'! Cha May 2019 #91
+100 Irishxs May 2019 #134
Perfectly put! Tipperary May 2019 #23
You know what you're getting when you vote for an actual Democrat. ehrnst May 2019 #35
It's part-time vs. full-time dalton99a May 2019 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2019 #7
please explain Vidal May 2019 #9
Part time independent (when running for senate) and part time democrat (when he is running for pres) GemDigger May 2019 #37
Actually, full time independent on the job. Democrat only when on the campaign trail. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #42
Bad wording on my part, I stand corrected. GemDigger May 2019 #45
Why do you think that the Democrats felt a need to have Democratic candidates ehrnst May 2019 #60
A very specifically worded pledge at that. GemDigger May 2019 #65
While supporters were lauding it as something so incredibly praiseworthy ehrnst May 2019 #73
I knew exactly who it was meant for after I read it. nt GemDigger May 2019 #79
That is what he does in Vermont. Primaries as a Democrat and then switches to Social Democrat. Midnight Writer May 2019 #87
That seems dishonest Vidal May 2019 #88
He takes the primary to delete Dem oppo, since The Dems won't be able to put another candidate up. Midnight Writer May 2019 #133
Very part time.. most of the time Cha May 2019 #92
Bernie was Faux pas May 2019 #8
Agree Vidal May 2019 #10
... Faux pas May 2019 #13
cheated? Otto Lidenbrock May 2019 #17
When the hell did Bernie get cheated? MrsCoffee May 2019 #19
But Bernie DID get cheated! jcgoldie May 2019 #24
Post removed Post removed May 2019 #63
NEwS FLASH, roody.. NO you DId NOT! Cha May 2019 #94
Exactly, MrsCoffee! Freaking Gaslight! Cha May 2019 #95
Cheated by who? Weaver? Devine? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #20
Sanders was NOT cheated. Hillary was the voters choice and won by three million votes lunamagica May 2019 #21
How was BS "cheated"? George II May 2019 #25
.. Cha May 2019 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2019 #52
Neither the press nor the pundits ever addressed the fact lapucelle May 2019 #137
excellent point Vidal May 2019 #139
You Did NOT "get Cheated".. so there's Cha May 2019 #93
Who's "we"? lapucelle May 2019 #105
That's a myth, a faith-based myth. betsuni May 2019 #107
Great article Vidal May 2019 #108
You're welcome! betsuni May 2019 #109
Mahalo, betsuni! Cha May 2019 #113
All of these myths are like stubborn stains. betsuni May 2019 #119
We'll just keep on keeping on.. Cha May 2019 #120
The only ones who say that, Faux pas, Cha May 2019 #112
Cheated? sheshe2 May 2019 #118
I half agree with you. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #128
I appreciate your recognition that B's time is past. I don't think "he" was cheated in the way MH1 May 2019 #143
Bernie Sanders rolls out new plans all the time JonLP24 May 2019 #11
The NRA likes him. Tipperary May 2019 #26
He had a D- rating in 2016 from the NRA JonLP24 May 2019 #36
He rolls out plans, not necessarily "new" plans. This week he came up with a plan.... George II May 2019 #29
The 15% credit card interest rate with AOC is a new plan JonLP24 May 2019 #31
Even that's not a new plan, there have been laws on the books controlling (not limiting).... George II May 2019 #40
. melman May 2019 #46
... ehrnst May 2019 #56
. melman May 2019 #59
... ehrnst May 2019 #62
Mirror! sheshe2 May 2019 #121
That made me LOL. betsuni May 2019 #123
Damn! NurseJackie May 2019 #150
. George II May 2019 #70
Actuallly, no, it's not new. It something that he tried before, and failed. ehrnst May 2019 #54
Most legislation attempted fails JonLP24 May 2019 #55
So you're going to skip over the detail that it's not actually "new." ehrnst May 2019 #57
"Even Warren" knows that? ehrnst May 2019 #155
To be honest I haven't seen a single major proposal of his this spring that is actually "new". George II May 2019 #72
However, it's savvy for a career politician to crank out many as much "new" ehrnst May 2019 #75
That was my observation. We have a man who has been in the House and Senate for almost 30 years.... George II May 2019 #77
My Senator, Brian Schatz.. Cha May 2019 #135
Plus he voted for sanctions on Russia.... jcgoldie May 2019 #30
Actually there were two Senators who didn't, him and Rand Paul. Interesting company, eh? George II May 2019 #32
He voted for Russia only sanctions JonLP24 May 2019 #34
Why didn't he make it to floor for the January vote for sanctions on a Russian oligharch? ehrnst May 2019 #44
Because he was meeting with sexual harrasement survivors from the JonLP24 May 2019 #49
You mean the all day meeting that he stopped in for an hour? ehrnst May 2019 #58
Convenient mcar May 2019 #106
The meeting was about 36 hours over the course of two days, he happened to decide.... George II May 2019 #125
Yup, under the "Bernie Standard," you're damned if you do or damned if you don't... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #132
No.. that won't work.. that's already been Cha May 2019 #136
So does my dad. But I don't expect my dad to make them happen, like I would a Senator. ehrnst May 2019 #38
Pish, posh....minor (factual) details. George II May 2019 #41
Between the two, Warren has the greater compassion. PatrickforO May 2019 #14
Very thoughtful post. Thank you Patrick. backtoblue May 2019 #152
I agree Vidal May 2019 #153
I like Warren more than Bernie due to tactics and presentation, Turin_C3PO May 2019 #15
All of my questions are dishonest, I'm afraid. Politicub May 2019 #16
Well some do believe Bernie thinks every think ever thought first, dontcha know. No Democrat Maru Kitteh May 2019 #27
I'm glad you wrote that. Vidal May 2019 #47
Hillary risked her entire political life and future for Universal Healthcare in the 90's Maru Kitteh May 2019 #74
Senator Warren has a problem NYMinute May 2019 #28
LOL Vidal May 2019 #66
She could hire a Hollywood animal stunt trainer NYMinute May 2019 #82
Now there's an idea Vidal May 2019 #83
It is a true and tested method in these parts nt NYMinute May 2019 #84
.... ehrnst May 2019 #68
That's a refreshing approach to the important issues facing the country. I'll bet she never even... George II May 2019 #124
Warren is vastly superior to Bernie in every conceivable way. BannonsLiver May 2019 #50
Well Vidal May 2019 #67
I think so, too! Cha May 2019 #97
Warren is my #2 after Harris Starry Messenger May 2019 #53
He has been on the same stuff for 40 years. roody May 2019 #61
Even when it fails. (nr) ehrnst May 2019 #64
That's a matter of Cha May 2019 #98
With all due respect. sheshe2 May 2019 #116
Yup. The truth doesn't change. It grows more important. JudyM May 2019 #154
foreign policy is a big difference to me KayF May 2019 #69
Some Recent Polls Show Warren is Gaining on Sanders Vidal May 2019 #71
Maybe Sanders is making money Vidal May 2019 #81
Without taking into account NYMinute May 2019 #85
OK, let's have the truth Vidal May 2019 #86
Has anyone here read any of Bernie's books? Vidal May 2019 #99
I think it's a misinterpretation of a quote. forgotmylogin May 2019 #102
That's great Vidal May 2019 #104
"Their distinctive liberalism is mostly a matter of adopting campaign labels, betsuni May 2019 #103
Wow Vidal May 2019 #110
Here: betsuni May 2019 #111
Great Vidal May 2019 #115
Yep.. we've noticed.. Cha May 2019 #114
Sure have. betsuni May 2019 #122
bernie has one plan- eat the rich. mopinko May 2019 #117
you are right Vidal May 2019 #141
Ok, I'm not a Bernie nor a Warren supporter - I'm still undecided Lithos May 2019 #131
Blowing things up Vidal May 2019 #140
One word zanana1 May 2019 #138
Post removed Post removed May 2019 #142
+1000 nt LibFarmer May 2019 #149
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