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corbettkroehler

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99. Do You Prefer His Honesty More Or His Political Courage?

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #95)

Sun May 19, 2019, 07:50 PM

May 2019

For me, it's a toss-up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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WATCH: Bernie Sanders Says 'I Don't Know' When Asked About a Major Abortion Rights Issue [View all] George II May 2019 OP

Kick for Exposure. Cha May 2019 #1

Surprised he didn't immediately pivot to income inequality BannonsLiver May 2019 #2

This. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #157

He wasn't prepared. Again MustLoveBeagles May 2019 #3

Abortion for the purpose of sex selection has been in the news all week? thesquanderer May 2019 #13

I reread my post due to your post and have edited for clarity MustLoveBeagles May 2019 #17

I agree. I read the news avidly, and no mention of this issue. Frankly, I wouldn't know how to CharleyDog May 2019 #53

Here is how to discuss it. DON'T It is nobody's business why a woman wants an abortion. wasupaloopa May 2019 #77

Exactly. LuvNewcastle May 2019 #178

In 2016 he called it an "unimportant issue" Beaverhausen May 2019 #114

In 2013 he was saying Democrats were getting "hung up" on abortion and gay marriage issues ehrnst May 2019 #118

... mcar May 2019 #133

Called Planned Parenthood "establishment." joshcryer May 2019 #164

I remember that! Clueless and unforgivable thing to say. NurseJackie May 2019 #179

That's a go to perjorative of his.... I WISH Planned Parenthood and the Black Congressional Caucus ehrnst May 2019 #188

K&R. murielm99 May 2019 #4

Abortion due to sex of fetus? GeniusJoy May 2019 #5

It was common in China during the 'one child policy'. It's still comradebillyboy May 2019 #138

Meanwhile in Alabama... lapucelle May 2019 #6

Let's ask Bernie if he ever voted for the Hyde amendment. Or worked on legislation to prevent 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #7

There's a good question. nt Nuggets May 2019 #18

BUT WHATABOUT BIDEN????!!!!! ehrnst May 2019 #50

Dear Goddess. sheshe2 May 2019 #8

I'm not a Bernie fan but Hav May 2019 #9

I wholeheartedly agree. Nuggets May 2019 #19

He could have said that it was a fallacy, and 'not' a real concern in the US. ehrnst May 2019 #64

Selective abortion is widely used in India, where it affects female birth rates, which has not emmaverybo May 2019 #65

Hav, the man's been in congress for nearly 30 years, Hortensis May 2019 #83

Agree it came out of left field. What was he supposed to say. Dream Girl May 2019 #128

If a candidate is that vulnerable to a 'gotcha' question that was so easily defused ehrnst May 2019 #155

But at the same time, when CNN tried their best to stump candidates ecstatic May 2019 #144

If Sanders had women's backs ...he would have had an answer. The truth is in my opinion, Demsrule86 May 2019 #146

Major Issue? My Political Calculus Differs From Yours corbettkroehler May 2019 #10

Why do we have to deal with it? GeniusJoy May 2019 #11

This. This is the answer. It's non-existent. Politicub May 2019 #29

In Principle, I Concur But There Are (Otherwise Flippable) Center-Right Voters Who'd Want An Answer corbettkroehler May 2019 #31

You think that a Democratic politician should be reinforcing fallacies from the anti-choice ehrnst May 2019 #59

Fallacious Or Not, Some Voters Want An Answer And He Pursued Those Voters corbettkroehler May 2019 #62

Are you now trying to claim that Sanders reinforced that fallacy to "pursue those voters?" ehrnst May 2019 #66

The Last Time I Checked, Honesty Was A Good Thing corbettkroehler May 2019 #71

Last time I checked, your posts are still visible ehrnst May 2019 #92

Honesty Is No Gaffe And Perception Is Everything corbettkroehler May 2019 #94

Perpetuating a lie by saying that it's "a concern" is at best, a gaffe. ehrnst May 2019 #106

What is next for Sanders? LibFarmer May 2019 #148

Lost me Joediss May 2019 #177

Since Your Candidate Passed On The Faux News Appearance, We'll Have To Differ On Strategy corbettkroehler May 2019 #90

I didn't see any good coming from Sanders appearing on FauxNews. ehrnst May 2019 #158

Didn't BS' polls Cha May 2019 #175

Simply say a woman has a right to an abortion and does not need to tell us the reason. In other wasupaloopa May 2019 #82

A Better Answer, I Concur corbettkroehler May 2019 #86

Really????? katmondoo May 2019 #14

Bernie honestly thinks this is an important issue? Nuggets May 2019 #21

The Main Point Of The Thread Was His Words "I Don't Know" corbettkroehler May 2019 #26

He doesn't know a basic anti-choice argument used to fight abortion access? ehrnst May 2019 #30

That was the wrong answer. Bernie doesn't get a pass on this. Politicub May 2019 #32

I Wrote "Honest", Not "A Pass" corbettkroehler May 2019 #33

By agreeing that an anti-choice fallacy is an actual 'concern?" ehrnst May 2019 #57

Lol Nuggets May 2019 #34

Let's Try This Again... corbettkroehler May 2019 #35

Trying to hide what he actually said doesn't change the fact Nuggets May 2019 #37

Hiding Precisely Nothing corbettkroehler May 2019 #48

He gave an answer to a question that he didn't know the answer to. ehrnst May 2019 #52

Unlike Trump, Sanders Seeks To Represent The Entire Nation, All Voters corbettkroehler May 2019 #84

Let's unpack this. ehrnst May 2019 #120

So it's ok to perpetuate a lie to get votes? mcar May 2019 #134

I wasn't the one cherry picking his answer Nuggets May 2019 #58

The Title Of This Thread Cherry Picked His Answer And I Responded, Nothing More (n/t) corbettkroehler May 2019 #63

That's a new one. ehrnst May 2019 #70

I Suggest You Read The Totality Of All Of My Replies corbettkroehler May 2019 #75

I have not only read your replies but refuted the attempted spin. ehrnst May 2019 #121

And you responded with a half answer Nuggets May 2019 #74

Addressing All Points Is A Half Answer? corbettkroehler May 2019 #76

You didn't address Nuggets May 2019 #85

If That's What He Truly Believes, How Is His Answer Dishonest? corbettkroehler May 2019 #88

If he believes a right wing talking point needs Nuggets May 2019 #93

Let's Cut To The Chase - It's A Non-Issue According To Whom? corbettkroehler May 2019 #102

Show me the masses of women seeking abortion due to not wanting a certain sex. Nuggets May 2019 #112

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #125

Are you saying that he believes the RW talking points that he repeated? ehrnst May 2019 #95

Do You Prefer His Honesty More Or His Political Courage? corbettkroehler May 2019 #99

Red herring... Nice try at evasion. ehrnst May 2019 #101

Evading Nothing (But Awaiting An Answer) n/t corbettkroehler May 2019 #103

Answer to your red herring? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #107

My Shovel Struck The Truth 500 Feet Of Sod Ago (n/t) corbettkroehler May 2019 #104

Truth... ehrnst May 2019 #108

Your shovel struck something else right at the start. ehrnst May 2019 #154

No, you evaded and tried several tactics to spin this ehrnst May 2019 #122

If he had stopped there, it would have been less bad. ehrnst May 2019 #41

Honest And Inartful - That's A Fair Characterization (n/t) corbettkroehler May 2019 #49

Not what I said. He tried to answer a question he clearly didn't know the answer to ehrnst May 2019 #54

It's Illegitimate Only As Far As The Ballot Box corbettkroehler May 2019 #78

Still trying to make this bad gaffe into some kind of political genius move. ehrnst May 2019 #105

Per Merriam-Weber... corbettkroehler May 2019 #110

Still tap dancing around the actual truth: ehrnst May 2019 #115

Genius? Surely Not. Courageous? Most Definitely! (n/t) corbettkroehler May 2019 #111

Courageous - not wanting to admit that he couldn't answer the question ehrnst May 2019 #116

Truth is truth mcar May 2019 #135

+1000. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #156

Yeah, his response was as insightful and substantive as "...hanging out on street corners." LanternWaste May 2019 #168

"Stepped in a steaming pile of shit" is how I would characterize his answer. Politicub May 2019 #72

I Concur - That's Part Of My Definition Of "Inartful" corbettkroehler May 2019 #80

You have not acknowledged error on his part yet. ehrnst May 2019 #96

Nor Will I - Clumsiness Is Not Error corbettkroehler May 2019 #97

So, now, you're back on "this is Bernie reaching out to swing voters" ehrnst May 2019 #113

Thank you for your posts in this thread. R B Garr May 2019 #119

It's an issue that I care mightily about. I just wish that more candidates did as well. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #124

Saying I don't know is not proof of honesty Fresh_Start May 2019 #163

Please highlight where he claimed it was an "important issue" that needed dealt with. Autumn May 2019 #167

These laws rise to more than a mere "issue". They were put in place to Politicub May 2019 #25

+1 Nuggets May 2019 #38

A "solution looking for a problem." (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #67

This isn't about media coaching, it's about understanding reproductive rights. ehrnst May 2019 #39

Glance At The Responses To This Thread And You'll See It's Surely A Concern For Some People corbettkroehler May 2019 #51

He didn't thread any needle. He reinforced a right wing anti-choice fallacy by agreeing with ehrnst May 2019 #56

It is away to prevent abortion so it qualifies. The reason Sanders will not be the nominee is Demsrule86 May 2019 #147

Oh please.. ".. more coaching.." Cha May 2019 #174

What a nasty, slimy, anti Women POS Todd is for asking this question. stuffmatters May 2019 #12

Go, Get 'Em! (n/t) corbettkroehler May 2019 #28

If Bernie was up to snuff he would have Nuggets May 2019 #40

This is not about Bernie. NBC should block Todd from interviewing ANY of our candidates. stuffmatters May 2019 #131

Eating his lunch would only be the beginning LibFarmer May 2019 #149

Are gender selective abortions really a big concern? Arkansas Granny May 2019 #15

it can be known very early w amnio. mopinko May 2019 #22

Where are all the women who are trying to Nuggets May 2019 #42

Sex selective abortions are not an "issue" though. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #68

No, it is not a concern at all, except among the anti-choice crowd. ehrnst May 2019 #44

It was used extensively in China back when the government mandated only one child. greatauntoftriplets May 2019 #81

The vast majority of abortions in the US are done before any sort of test ehrnst May 2019 #127

Correct answer is Mr.Bill May 2019 #16

Yeah! Nuggets May 2019 #43

Yes, plus "abortion has been legal for nearly 50 years, why would you even ask this?" stuffmatters May 2019 #132

Are you fucking kidding me??? NurseJackie May 2019 #20

Lol Nuggets May 2019 #23

He was as unprepared for this as he was for the She The People interview. George II May 2019 #36

Unprepared. Unqualified. NurseJackie May 2019 #46

He showed more respect to this interviewer. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #60

Yes, Chuck Todd is a white man. George II May 2019 #69

He's pretty nasty to women who interview him. comradebillyboy May 2019 #140

I've noticed that too. He has little patience with women interviewers/reporters... NurseJackie May 2019 #172

++++++++ comradebillyboy May 2019 #173

This was elementary LibFarmer May 2019 #150

When members of the Media are more knowledgeable revmclaren May 2019 #55

Why is he even running? Yes... it's definitely a HUGE problem, and... NurseJackie May 2019 #61

He had no idea about this, did he? It's not a 'concern' for anyone but pro-forced birthers. ehrnst May 2019 #24

This disqualifies him. Seriously. He should just withdraw now. NurseJackie May 2019 #27

"In particular, proponents of sex-selective abortion bans cite limited and inconclusive evidence ehrnst May 2019 #45

But ... but ... NYMinute May 2019 #47

It's moments like this that illustrate to me how out-of-his-league he really is.... NurseJackie May 2019 #73

All roads lead to Rome ... I mean ... income inequality nt NYMinute May 2019 #123

This is the topic of the week. greatauntoftriplets May 2019 #79

I know, right! It's crazy! This tells me that he's unqualified for the job. NurseJackie May 2019 #89

Is there any doubt that Bernie would support a woman's right to choose? MasonDreams May 2019 #87

There's absolutely NOTHING that's "gotcha" about that. Nothing! NurseJackie May 2019 #91

I know someone else who cried "gotcha question!" everytime they were unprepared: NYC Liberal May 2019 #100

Bernie already said he will vote for the nominee of the party MasonDreams May 2019 #130

Who is "running to H Kissinger for advice?" ehrnst May 2019 #181

Hillary MasonDreams May 2019 #184

Ok, "gotcha" was clearly wrong. MasonDreams May 2019 #117

Thank you. NurseJackie May 2019 #129

It was only a 'gotcha' question for someone that didn't know the first thing ehrnst May 2019 #98

In Other Words Me. May 2019 #109

Reading the Biden Sanders posts is like watching Tennis tymorial May 2019 #126

By comparison, here's how 2 other candidates answered similar questions today mcar May 2019 #136

He told the truth just like he always does. What more can you ask? George Eliot May 2019 #137

+1000 Tiggeroshii May 2019 #153

Bernie has done such a thing over and over. Blue_true May 2019 #139

He'll wait for a bill to be introduced, then he'll propose an amendment.... George II May 2019 #143

Yep. nt Blue_true May 2019 #145

Which has made him one of most successful legislators. What's wrong with that? George Eliot May 2019 #169

Maybe he's been a little bit busy lately and forgot this is the United States. betsuni May 2019 #141

When there's no way to pivot to his medicare for all stump speech, ecstatic May 2019 #142

This will go down in history LibFarmer May 2019 #151

... Tiggeroshii May 2019 #152

His lack of interest in preparing for the race indicates, to me, breathtaking arrogance. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #159

Agreed. Sad to see that some here see it as a laughing matter... NurseJackie May 2019 #160

And it's not that I'm looking for a glib candidate who has an answer for everything. A candidate WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #161

I know! This is BASIC! This is FUNDAMENTAL! Sadly... NurseJackie May 2019 #162

Who is surprised by this? Gothmog May 2019 #165

In Bernie's defense (and I don't defend him often) Blue_Tires May 2019 #166

IT'S NOT A "CONCERN" NastyRiffraff May 2019 #170

Yep. I think it was a status quo politician sidestep around a topic he didn't know about. ehrnst May 2019 #182

That's a reasonable response. Partisan D May 2019 #171

There is nothing 'reasonable' about promoting a RW talking point that is fallacious ehrnst May 2019 #176

Only if he's prepared to wobble circumstantially, surely? Hortensis May 2019 #180

"His astonishing ignorance after 3 decades in office" --- Well said. Thank you! NurseJackie May 2019 #183

Cue the talking point: "That's what makes him so refreshing!" ehrnst May 2019 #187

Yes. Dodge, but perhaps somewhat real also? Hortensis May 2019 #189

He's never really been asked to follow through with his grand promises. ehrnst May 2019 #191

Yes. His record shows he essentially vegged for a quarter century, Hortensis May 2019 #192

Abortion as a means of sex selection is a racist, right wing talking point. lapucelle May 2019 #190

Since when is sex-selective abortion a major issue in the United States? Autumn May 2019 #185

Did they then go on to tell you that "women having abortions for sex selection" is ehrnst May 2019 #186