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2banon

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15. Indeed. One thing we need to really reflect hard on, is the Left ELITE sat on their collective hands
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:21 PM
Jun 2016

and essentially has done nothing really for decades to build a truly progressive left movement. and are being criticized today for essentially doing nothing of worth still.

It's time we take long hard look at the bourgeoise of the "Left" and understand they're too comfortable, and largely irrelevant this movement.

They do LOVE to interfere with strong progressive efforts , by co-opting at every turn, Occupy is a perfect example. That's just one. I've been observing this for the past two decades. I think we really need to look at this, and give a big finger call out on their complicity with the status quo and their mealy mouthed "opposition" token punditry.


It's just one thing anarchists continue to remind us of, but so many of us haven't quite given it the value of worth, including myself. Until now.

I'm starting to look at that criticism with a sharper eye, which I used to reject out of hand..



I would think it will be closed automatically next week Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #1
If it is closed, I'd like to see us open a critique and continuation group in its place Ken Burch Jun 2016 #17
Why would you want to stay here and do that? They DONT want to hear it onecaliberal Jun 2016 #26
Just look at the results of the poll. There are 217 replies at this writing, and all of them are Cal33 Jul 2016 #75
Don't do that LiberalElite Jun 2016 #39
Take the blue pill. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #51
I don't see that happening. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #63
I like this idea: call it "Bernie's Revolution" forum. Stevepol Jun 2016 #72
Excellent suggestion. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #73
Great idea. This might be part of the movement started with Bernie. I'm also all for Cal33 Jul 2016 #74
CLINTON/SANDERS Ticket Silentvoice Jul 2016 #77
Then, why not Al Gore? MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #22
Gore is part of the established democratic party; an insider. DU is an Establishment. DhhD Jun 2016 #42
I'm familiar with JPR MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #43
Its establishment is an independent democratic oligarchy with its own donors. DhhD Jun 2016 #44
So, the banks, who control "the real economy" can play chicken with Warren on a string? MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #45
Not if we work outside of triangulating conservatism. DhhD Jun 2016 #47
I doubt if it will be closed. They did not close the Clinton group in 2008. totodeinhere Jun 2016 #48
Yeah, unless Warren or Sanders is the VP Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #49
The hillary group will as well.we should open a downticket group swhisper1 Jun 2016 #52
We should petition him to keep it open! n/t RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #2
Why close it prematurely? senz Jun 2016 #3
Was the Hillary group ever closed? Just curious. djean111 Jun 2016 #4
No, but I really don't think anyone should use them as a model. n/t QC Jun 2016 #5
Why is it when I click on your user name nothing appears, while when clicking pangaia Jun 2016 #33
I'm not sure about that. QC Jun 2016 #34
OK.. Thought maybe you were a spy or something. LOL! pangaia Jun 2016 #36
There's a way to see QC's journal etc. Yonnie3 Jun 2016 #55
HA HA!!.. I won't tell.. ">))) pangaia Jun 2016 #56
The software has a problem with user names of only two letters. -none Jun 2016 #65
I agree... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #46
IMO, as long as people are not talking about Hillary, there is no reason to djean111 Jun 2016 #7
bernie is a democrat and as long as we dont bash Hillary, the movement is a valid topic swhisper1 Jun 2016 #53
Hell no. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #6
No. Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #8
Indeed. One thing we need to really reflect hard on, is the Left ELITE sat on their collective hands 2banon Jun 2016 #15
Indeed. They have their Pensions, their trust funds everything that a limousine Liberal needs. LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #21
yep, that's it in a nut shell. 2banon Jun 2016 #23
No, I haven't read it, but I will try to find it. I was just speaking about people I have known LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #24
wow. first hand observations.. excellent education .. 2banon Jun 2016 #25
Is this it? klook Jun 2016 #68
yes.. thanks 2banon Jun 2016 #70
They didn't sit on their hands, they know where their money comes from they supported that. onecaliberal Jun 2016 #27
Yes, true. I meant sitting on their hands in our struggle for genuine progressive campaigns 2banon Jun 2016 #32
Only close if Hillary's group closes as well. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #9
That won't happen. -none Jun 2016 #66
Perhaps that's why I'm rarely here anymore. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #69
Can't we at least wait until the convention. MoonchildCA Jun 2016 #10
Been here a long time and I don't remember any presidential group closing. It just falls into disuse Melissa G Jun 2016 #11
I like to read comments in the Bernie group... nenagh Jun 2016 #12
Looks like we have a consensus! n/t QC Jun 2016 #13
NOO!! grasswire Jun 2016 #14
NO! Duval Jun 2016 #16
As long as he is a Democrat I see no need to shut it down. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #18
Agreed. If he is a Democrat and is still 2orking to bring people into the party, then GreenPartyVoter Jun 2016 #38
It should remain open until the Democratic Party decides who to run for President imagine2015 Jun 2016 #19
What would happen to all the research in this group? Various topics that people took time to... Donkees Jun 2016 #20
I wouldn't care if the Hillary group was closed, though. nt valerief Jun 2016 #28
Absolutely not! I liked both candidates, but favored Bernie. When, one time, napi21 Jun 2016 #29
The Bernie Group hosts are good about gently reminding people they are posting in the group first. cui bono Jun 2016 #41
Should we close down the Lincoln Chafee and Elizabeth Warren Groups? immoderate Jun 2016 #30
Were you thinking of closing Kerry, Biden and the others as well? peace13 Jun 2016 #31
Autumn and I wanted to be able to show that there's is real demand for this group. QC Jun 2016 #35
Ok peace13 Jun 2016 #37
People having been posting OPs here every day. merrily Jun 2016 #62
No. Bernie has been and will continue to be a force in govt. He is our voice. cui bono Jun 2016 #40
No sangfroid Jun 2016 #50
No, he's been a hero of progressive Dems since before the primary ReasonableToo Jun 2016 #54
Hell to the NO! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #57
Why? LWolf Jun 2016 #58
Why Not? DU has had many Groups that were allowed to function--and Still Are: KoKo Jun 2016 #59
Why ask that we be shut down? left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #60
See post 35. n/t QC Jun 2016 #61
Looks like it's closed by default in any event. stranger81 Jun 2016 #64
^^^This^^^ -none Jun 2016 #67
no glinda Jun 2016 #71
Wait until the convention. Lunabell Jul 2016 #76
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