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freshwest

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11. Some of the clinging to religion is defensiveness, people say their kids are a burden on society.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:23 AM
Apr 2015

So they end up with pro-lifers since they support their having given birth. The parents need moral support.

There was a thread here on DU about a famous person saying their having given birth to DS child was 'a sin.' So presumably, they advocated forced abortion to prevent this child living.

Some parents can't afford tests for determining DS. Other parents have children with no sign of disability before or after birth, and then are abandoned by family and friends for the unexpected problems arise.

With rhetoric like that, along with other things thrown in parents' faces, they seek justification for having had, and caring for a disabled child. I rememeber an ER episode years ago that I was shocked watching.

The star of the show, a physician, argued against giving treatment to a girl who had severe disabilities and was in a wheel chair. They said the mother was indulging herself to seek medical care for her, she should let her die. He called the girl 'a pet.'

You don't get much worse than that in saying who and who is not a human.

So there is bitterness, and lot of parents are angry at pro-choice as they feel that they are saying their child shouldn't be a burden. But in areas that serve the disabled well, generally progressive, liberal, mainly Democratic, they feel acceptance.

I've got to get some sleep. Hope that made sense.

Let girl/woman do what she needs to do and it's none of our business anyway. HIPPA laws should brewens Apr 2015 #1
Some guys have arrived in that other thread DURHAM D Apr 2015 #2
i just put my toe back into that thread. and i got the but but but, she said rare. seabeyond Apr 2015 #3
Don't bother. DURHAM D Apr 2015 #5
Fall apart of course ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #4
In my experience with this issue, the further difficult question arises when CTyankee Apr 2015 #6
Choice is choice ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #7
I think their bitterness was in large part due to the fact that they were enduring CTyankee Apr 2015 #8
I can see that ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #10
Some of the clinging to religion is defensiveness, people say their kids are a burden on society. freshwest Apr 2015 #11
Okay, I see what your saying concerning that thread... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #9
here is the thing. having listened to speech, reacted to the word rare, then taking it in context seabeyond Apr 2015 #12
I'll bet you money they didn't actually listen to the speech ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #13
You noticed that too, didn't you. Because I sure have. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #28
It was a fantastic reply Novara Apr 2015 #14
I'm one of those who think that by wanting abortion to be rare is wrong seabeyond Apr 2015 #15
That's not what I said. Novara Apr 2015 #17
that is exactly what you said. i copy and pasted your sentence seabeyond Apr 2015 #18
Read what I wrote Novara Apr 2015 #21
i stopped where i wanted to address. because it falls at the beginning is not my problem. seabeyond Apr 2015 #22
Making abortion rare is logically limiting them. Novara Apr 2015 #23
That segues into my point about abortion being a surgical procedure ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #24
you continue to ignore what she is actually saying, regardless of me showing you how fool hearty seabeyond Apr 2015 #25
I'm a nurse so I see it from a medical POV ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #16
The fact that she is repeating it "after her work for women's justice is disturbing." Novara Apr 2015 #19
Isn't that what I said? ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #20
Perfect. I agree with every word. Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #26
you are so obvious. ya ya , i get it. it is there for me to see, not all. seabeyond Apr 2015 #27
Heh! ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #29
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