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In reply to the discussion: What information from the Sanders campaign does Clinton have? When did they get it? How many times [View all]Jarqui
(10,123 posts)15. From a couple of days ago
http://blog.ngpvan.com/data-security-and-privacy
here's the four logs, came aware of breach at 10:40, breach ends at 11:27
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/12/18/merged_document.pdf
User page 1 - did a search without saving any list (probably why they were not suspended)
User page 2 - saves 7 lists
User page 3 - saves 9 lists
User page 4 - saves 8 lists
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4 users - saved 24 lists
They exported a Sanders report after the breach was over in NV (where they had not done anything during the breach). They did not export the other campaign lists they generated during the breach in the log.
I did not see in those logs where they generated the "one page-style report containing summary data on a list was saved out of VoteBuilder by one Sanders user" and exported that per NGP VAN above.
So they have a pretty good idea of what happened earlier this week. And NGP VAN claim that the Clinton campaign did not do anything like the above.
On Friday:
"We're actually very confident that some of our data was lost to one of the other campaigns" Sanders Campaign manager Jeff Weaver
Through that video and other reports, last October there were two breaches by different software companies or a company hired by the DNC - (one of them involved modeling software and that company could have been involved with both breaches)
If another campaign compromised Sanders data and the DNC just closed off the breach and didn't do anything more - like an audit of it, the DNC could have a real problem in terms of damages/liability (and old Debbie has them operating at financial loss right now about $20 mil behind the RNC). And the Clinton campaign could have an even bigger problem in terms of the public perception of her campaign doing this to Sanders after hypocritically having their surrogate DNC chairperson whack Sanders in the media.
Don't want to go over the top here but if Weaver truly has the solid evidence you'd think he'd have to be "very confident", he could nuke the Clinton campaign pretty badly here if they were the campaign who compromised his data. I don't know how the lawyers would haggle their way around that one. Could get interesting.
As for Debbie, I don't know how she could carry on in this capacity - even if Hillary wins. She's messed up pretty big here.
for voters that a user already had access to, that user was able to search by and view (but not export or save or act on) some attributes that came from another campaign.
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a one page-style report containing summary data on a list was saved out of VoteBuilder by one Sanders user. This is what some people have referred to as the export from VoteBuilder. As noted below, users were unable to export lists of people.
here's the four logs, came aware of breach at 10:40, breach ends at 11:27
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/12/18/merged_document.pdf
User page 1 - did a search without saving any list (probably why they were not suspended)
User page 2 - saves 7 lists
User page 3 - saves 9 lists
User page 4 - saves 8 lists
================
4 users - saved 24 lists
They exported a Sanders report after the breach was over in NV (where they had not done anything during the breach). They did not export the other campaign lists they generated during the breach in the log.
I did not see in those logs where they generated the "one page-style report containing summary data on a list was saved out of VoteBuilder by one Sanders user" and exported that per NGP VAN above.
So they have a pretty good idea of what happened earlier this week. And NGP VAN claim that the Clinton campaign did not do anything like the above.
On Friday:
"We're actually very confident that some of our data was lost to one of the other campaigns" Sanders Campaign manager Jeff Weaver
Through that video and other reports, last October there were two breaches by different software companies or a company hired by the DNC - (one of them involved modeling software and that company could have been involved with both breaches)
If another campaign compromised Sanders data and the DNC just closed off the breach and didn't do anything more - like an audit of it, the DNC could have a real problem in terms of damages/liability (and old Debbie has them operating at financial loss right now about $20 mil behind the RNC). And the Clinton campaign could have an even bigger problem in terms of the public perception of her campaign doing this to Sanders after hypocritically having their surrogate DNC chairperson whack Sanders in the media.
Don't want to go over the top here but if Weaver truly has the solid evidence you'd think he'd have to be "very confident", he could nuke the Clinton campaign pretty badly here if they were the campaign who compromised his data. I don't know how the lawyers would haggle their way around that one. Could get interesting.
As for Debbie, I don't know how she could carry on in this capacity - even if Hillary wins. She's messed up pretty big here.
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What information from the Sanders campaign does Clinton have? When did they get it? How many times [View all]
onecaliberal
Dec 2015
OP
"Kroll is running an indy audit'. Right.....do you know who kroll is and who they've done work for?
ViseGrip
Dec 2015
#28
'Discovery' pertains to legal issues. This suit is about political infighting and will go nowhere.
randome
Dec 2015
#4
Firewall is absolutely not the correct word for it if it was just ACLs that went offline
JonLeibowitz
Dec 2015
#26
DU's admins support Clinton, passionately. There's really no mystery there.
JonLeibowitz
Dec 2015
#36
I suppose so, I guess it's better for them to say nothing in regards to the technically
notadmblnd
Dec 2015
#37
THIS Is A Big Part of The Reason For ... The Independent Investigation...
CorporatistNation
Dec 2015
#25
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised about any of this. Keep digging. This will work both ways.
Hiraeth
Dec 2015
#9
So, that is why Bernie's campaign completely opposes a fully independent
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2015
#18