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notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
7. The media is calling it a "firewall"
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:18 PM
Dec 2015

Someone else told me that the problem was with field level database permissions. We were talking about why any users would have access to the database during maintenance. Others have said it was a patch. A patch would be considered maintenance. My argument was- no users should have been logged on while maintenance was being performed.

Their argument was that field level database permissions wern't difficult to change and not a big deal(Sysadmin opens a window, clicks on which permissions that they want you to have- and you got it. Unclick the permissions and the user doesn't have that permission anylonger) and could be done while users are logged onto the database.

Permissions are exactly that. Some part of the database or function that the user is authorized to use or access.

I pretty much ceded the point. However, I pointed out, that if it was a field level database issue with user or group permissions- then either the sysadmin or the dba had to turn them off or on every single time. They just don't turn themselves on and off. I also pointed out that if they were turning themselves off and on randomly, then that would be a bigger problem.

I also pointed out that we don't know if the vendor who was performing the maintenance- was working on the "firewall" issue or some other issue not related to what the Sander's campaign reported in October.

Bottom line- if a critical fix was being performed on the database by the vendor- no users should have been able to log on before the fix was implemented and tested for success before being returned to the users. Having users logged in would risk corrupting the database.

If it wasn't a critical fix- why was it being implemented during normal business hours and not during their regular scheduled maintenance window?

If it was the simple fix as the user I was discussing this with had indicated. Then someone- sysadmin or dba had to have logged on and given the Sanders Group the permissions to access the Clinton's Group as it is not possible for users to turn these permissions off and on themselves.

So, my question is- Does anyone know what exactly the vendor was working on? A patch? A field level permission? Or something else? And why were users on the database when it was being performed by the vendor?


Sorry, but Bernie staff stole from Hillary. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #1
"Kroll is running an indy audit'. Right.....do you know who kroll is and who they've done work for? ViseGrip Dec 2015 #28
But they are the group Sanders agreed to. leftofcool Dec 2015 #30
What we get to make up our own facts upaloopa Dec 2015 #2
That's par for the course around here. leftofcool Dec 2015 #3
'Discovery' pertains to legal issues. This suit is about political infighting and will go nowhere. randome Dec 2015 #4
Then there's nothing to worry about. AmIright? notadmblnd Dec 2015 #5
You got the names of the campaigns mixed up. n/t Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #6
The media is calling it a "firewall" notadmblnd Dec 2015 #7
Yep. Databases don't use 'firewalls'. Matariki Dec 2015 #10
Firewall is absolutely not the correct word for it if it was just ACLs that went offline JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #26
Seriously. Incompetence hired incompetents. Matariki Dec 2015 #31
Using the term "firewall" makes this story a lie right out the gate, no? notadmblnd Dec 2015 #33
DU's admins support Clinton, passionately. There's really no mystery there. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #36
I suppose so, I guess it's better for them to say nothing in regards to the technically notadmblnd Dec 2015 #37
THIS Is A Big Part of The Reason For ... The Independent Investigation... CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #25
Up is down. Black is white in Bernieworld redstateblues Dec 2015 #8
And in Hillaryworld it becomes Technicolor. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #11
Brilliant attempt to deflect blame redstateblues Dec 2015 #13
you think yours will? hobbit709 Dec 2015 #14
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised about any of this. Keep digging. This will work both ways. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #9
And guess which camp's supporter alerted. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #12
From a couple of days ago Jarqui Dec 2015 #15
Thanks for the thoughtful replies. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #16
There is no evidence whatsoever that anything like this happened. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #17
IKR JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #32
So, that is why Bernie's campaign completely opposes a fully independent Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #18
Big time desperation. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #19
On your part, I agree. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #21
Lol NCTraveler Dec 2015 #22
OK.. and, so...? Fawke Em Dec 2015 #23
I have no so. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #24
We could care Fawke Em Dec 2015 #20
Fired National Data Director,.... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #27
Lawsuit still sustaines. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #29
The lawsuit will ask the right questions Furrfu Dec 2015 #35
And what about Vince Foster ... right, right??!!??? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #34
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