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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:48 PM Nov 2015

McClatchy-Marist Poll: Bernie Sanders DESTROYS both Trump and Bush in Landslides. [View all]

Coat-tails baby.

In new shock poll, Sanders has landslides over both Trump and Bush
By Brent Budowsky, columnist * The Hill * Nov. 11, 2015

In a new McClatchy-Marist poll, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) leads Republican candidate Donald Trump by a landslide margin of 12 percentage points, 53 to 41. In the McClatchy poll, Sanders also leads former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) by a landslide margin of 10 points, 51 to 41.

The huge Sanders advantage over Trump is not new. In the last four match-up polls between them reported by Real Clear Politics, Sanders defeated Trump by margins of 12, 9, 9 and 2 percentage points.

The huge Sanders advantage over Bush is new. In previous match-ups, the polling showed Sanders and Bush running virtually even, with Bush holding a 1-point lead over Sanders in most of the polls. Future polls will be needed to test whether the huge Sanders lead over Bush in the McClatchy poll will be repeated in future polling or whether the McClatchy poll is an outlier.

It is shocking that the data suggests that Sanders has a lead over Trump that could be SO HUGE that he would win a landslide victory in the presidential campaign, with margins that would almost certainly lead Democrats to regain control of the Senate and could help Democrats regain control of the House of Representative — if, of course, the three polls that show Sanders beating Trump by 9 to 12 points reflect final voting in the presidential election.

It would be equally shocking if future polling shows that the Sanders lead over Bush remains at landslide margins.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/259812-in-new-shock-poll-sanders-has-landslides-over-both



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why aren't there hundreds of recs for this news? grasswire Nov 2015 #1
I'm doing my best. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #2
Clinton polls the same in that article. Codeine Nov 2015 #3
The poll destroys the canard that "Bernie can't win in the GE" <-- this 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #5
The flip side, using some Clinton supporters logic, they MUST vote for Bernie now because Hillary Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #30
then they must also be saying Bernie. Bernie. Bernie. PaulaFarrell Nov 2015 #12
Maybe fewer recs because it had already been posted thesquanderer Nov 2015 #23
Cool, thanks for the reminder. klook Nov 2015 #69
I'm reccing. :D I can't wait to see a poll that talks to those without landlines. :D roguevalley Nov 2015 #27
It is a holiday for some people. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #31
I only get to rec it once. :) Babel_17 Nov 2015 #45
Great numbers for dems in that poll. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #4
LMAO Happenstance24 Nov 2015 #6
"what happens when Bernie gets a barrage of negative ads and lies thrown his way?" 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #9
And practically zero press at all. zeemike Nov 2015 #25
The fact that Hillary attracts so much negative press may or may not be her fault, but it will JDPriestly Nov 2015 #33
Yes, I am surprised at my Republican friends and relatives say about Hillary Bernblu Nov 2015 #63
Zero negative press? In which universe? merrily Nov 2015 #51
Mother Jones has an article and videos of Bernie as mayor of Burlington. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #74
This must be why there is a new anti-polling policy being pushed by conservatives. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #7
Perhaps, but actually it isn't just RWers who are questioning our obsession with political polling 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #10
Aaaah....BERNIE must be leading in all those polls, so now they're no good. n/t in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #20
Makes one wonder, huh. -nt- 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #21
Yhat just proves my point Alternet was taken over by libertarians long ago that Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #36
I wonder how he and Hillary would do against Rubio? who I think will be the GOP WI_DEM Nov 2015 #8
My guess: Mrs. Clinton would win by a little, Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #11
I disagree Robbins Nov 2015 #15
Like '08 all over again! Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #13
K&R! tecelote Nov 2015 #14
Bern them! Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #16
Bern, baby Bern. jalan48 Nov 2015 #17
Go Bernie! MissDeeds Nov 2015 #18
Kicking for an extremely important poll! in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #19
The same poll has Clinton defeating Trump by a BIGGER landslide, 15 points, and.... George II Nov 2015 #22
I think the indisputable point here is, that this poll destroys the "Bernie can't win the GE" canard 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #24
Exactly. It was a lie from the start, and they knew it n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #28
+1! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #42
Absolutely Duckfan Nov 2015 #26
Super news! Duval Nov 2015 #29
Yes it is great news indeed 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #38
The only thing blocking Bernie's path to the WH are the "Third Way" types who dominate the party. reformist2 Nov 2015 #32
Plus the fact that he doesn't advocate a war on economic terroists and asset seizure thirdchildhood Feb 2016 #86
That last paragraph is fucking yooooooge!! AzDar Nov 2015 #34
Oh, would this be so.. abakan Nov 2015 #35
I hate to be a "party pooper" but, red dog 1 Nov 2015 #37
Do you seriously think Carson would survive 10-minutes in a debate with Bernie Sanders? 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #39
Yes -- the same way Ronald Reagan did against Dems who were far superior. pnwmom Nov 2015 #44
I knew Ronald Reagan and Ben Carson is no Ronald Reagan. Lochloosa Nov 2015 #83
I never met him but I saw him every day on TV for 8 years. And I watched pnwmom Nov 2015 #85
Actually, I think Bernie would do very well in a debate with Carson red dog 1 Nov 2015 #48
The Oligarchy won't let Carson win the nomination, period. They will ruin him if necessary. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #65
I think they are ruining him right now... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #73
yes I agree. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #75
Ben Carson 47%, Bernie Sanders 45% Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #40
Thanks for that. red dog 1 Nov 2015 #47
You're welcome. It's strange that the country is so evenly divided Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #71
It's strange that this poll didn't include Carson, since he's polling at the top pnwmom Nov 2015 #43
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I couldn't find Carson vs. Sanders. What was the result? pnwmom Nov 2015 #57
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It's scary how well Carson is doing. I don't want him to be pnwmom Nov 2015 #59
It did. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #70
Yeah, you really hated posting that. However, Carson is on his way to oblivion, so it's irrelevant. merrily Nov 2015 #53
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Nov 2015 #46
K&R leftcoastmountains Nov 2015 #49
K&R Paka Nov 2015 #50
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #54
and Hillary youceyec Nov 2015 #55
This is good news but doesnt really mean too much at this point in time. DCBob Nov 2015 #56
They haven't attacked him 24/7 yet though because moobu2 Nov 2015 #60
but, but, he's unelectable, so this poll must be unscientific stupidicus Nov 2015 #61
I believe TIME Iwillnevergiveup Nov 2015 #62
Go Bernie Go! Feeling the Bern Nov 2015 #64
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I think the American public are so damn stupid about political science. They'll believe what they're YOHABLO Nov 2015 #67
k & r lovemydog Nov 2015 #68
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He has to kick butt in the primaries first Kalidurga Nov 2015 #76
How very sexist of you to say that 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #77
Well.... Kalidurga Nov 2015 #78
I don't know who could argue with that logic. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #79
A Bernie Sanders candidacy would sweep democrats into office across the US fbc Nov 2015 #80
Gotta Watch Out For Rubio billhicks76 Nov 2015 #81
K&R nt raouldukelives Nov 2015 #82
K&R. Glad to hear it. Overseas Nov 2015 #84
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