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Showing Original Post only (View all)Thom Hartmann, Sanders should have kept her name out of his response. [View all]
{I am posting this as an OP, taken from one of my posts in GD-P with some added/edited text.}
Sanders undoubtedly made an amateur blunder with that response. For the record, I don't believe he's sexist in any which way, but that's because I'm politically aware. However, for the less politically astute, it's how he came across with his bumbled response during the Democratic debate and he gave Hillary Clinton a club. Don't believe me? I've taken the time to link to the video where you can hear it for yourself.
I've provided an excerpt below:
"As Senator from a rural State, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, "that all the shouting in the world is not going to do, what I would hope, all of us want. And that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end the violence we are seeing."
He made it personal by including her name even though, arguably, it might not have been his intention.
See at 0:18:
http://egbertowillies.com/2015/10/27/hillary-clinton-slammed-for-falsely-accusing-bernie-sanders-of-sexism-video/
Sanders should've kept her name OUT of his response. By including it, he made it appear as if he was telling her that she was shouting. That's how it comes across. It was a politically amateur mistake that could have some serious legs among women who aren't already Sanders supporters.
That said, he should've simply apologized when this problem arose, and he would've nipped it in the bud. Instead, he doubled down. Second big mistake. Until he does, no amount of explaining by his supporters will turn this around.
Sanders should've simply said, "It's not what I meant to say at all, but if some women were offended by what I said, I apologize." There. End of story. But as long as he doesn't do that, Hillary Clinton will continue to use his words against him, and in this race for the Democratic nomination, she has every right to.
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Thom Hartmann, Sanders should have kept her name out of his response. [View all]
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2015
OP
Thanks, Thiningabout. After reading so many posts on how Hillary Clinton is "taking his words out of
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2015
#9
Oh, believe me, Hillary Clinton's thicker than any other candidate's running.
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2015
#80
Do you have a link to a statement by Bernie supporting the gun-show loophole?
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#110
Elections are popularity contests, first and foremost. You're a Sanders supporter so I understand
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2015
#12
I don't understand that, either. A simple apology, like the one in my OP, would have
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2015
#15
I just find all of this posturing to be hypocritical. What I am used to enduring in political speech
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2015
#5
I'm quoting the OP. The Bible speaks negatively about homosexuality and about women speaking
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2015
#20
Optics. Since he refuses to apologize, he's basically affirming Hillary's charge.
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2015
#17
Bernie defended her against the media and their email crap, in the same way, same tone he said
Autumn
Oct 2015
#39
No combing necessary. He said the same thing to O'Malley a couple minutes later.
Jim Lane
Oct 2015
#97
No he did not. He clearly was speaking about the shouting between the GC factions.
Autumn
Oct 2015
#84
He didn't. My OP was addressed to him since he admitted in his video that he visits DU
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2015
#32
Everyone has been shouting about guns. How was this interpreted as just Hillary anyway?
Vinca
Oct 2015
#35
Also, not everyone has been "shouting" about guns. The bullies are on the NRA side.
SunSeeker
Oct 2015
#44
The gun control proponents have not been "shouting." That is an unfair put down.
SunSeeker
Oct 2015
#48
The right wing and NRA showed ridiculous outrage over a reasonable package of regulations.
SunSeeker
Oct 2015
#52
They are semiautomatic centerfire rifles - the most popular rifles in America for 25 years.
hack89
Oct 2015
#63
Sanders supports an assault weapons ban. Do you think that makes him a "gun grabber"? nt
SunSeeker
Oct 2015
#65
No. Yet you call Hillary a gun grabber for supporting an assault weapons ban. Why?
SunSeeker
Oct 2015
#70
"As Senator from a rural State, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, "that all the shouting in the
Cha
Oct 2015
#94
Yup. A person that thin-skinned, as the president? That is frightening, actually.
djean111
Oct 2015
#108
She doesn't really need excuses to start wars, anyway, at least, not in the Middle East.
merrily
Oct 2015
#109