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Here's the transcript, decide for yourself: [View all] boston bean Oct 2015 OP

Crystal clear. And yes, he yelled throughout the debate. But he is a man, it's OK lunamagica Oct 2015 #1

You would think the teacher just came in the room and told everyone to be quiet... boston bean Oct 2015 #2

Not even the sound of crickets. Which surprises me. I'm always amazed by their ability lunamagica Oct 2015 #3

maybe I should get ready for the onslaught. They might be in re-grouping mode! boston bean Oct 2015 #4

LOL, got to give them some time! lunamagica Oct 2015 #5

LOL leftofcool Oct 2015 #6

Left out Lame? RobertEarl Oct 2015 #73

ten to one it will be an edited video snip of his debate response, cutting him out saying her name. boston bean Oct 2015 #7

Sanders had been saying the exact same thing about the gun issue for months before the debate. appal_jack Oct 2015 #54

He was characterizing her as shouting. You know how you can tell that? boston bean Oct 2015 #56

He was talking to her, not about her. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #133

Exactly. cui bono Oct 2015 #156

+1000 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #167

Gender card on the first comment. Nice. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #29

Yup. If she yells she's "bitchy". If she's mild she's "non enthusiastic". JaneyVee Oct 2015 #39

If she shows emotion she's weak mcar Oct 2015 #80

Even if she shows emotion she's still phony. svpadgham Oct 2015 #105

She really doesn't mcar Oct 2015 #110

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to learn a new word. svpadgham Oct 2015 #112

My pleasure mcar Oct 2015 #114

I believe that she was genuine when she said with a big smile: "Thank you Bernie!" when he BeanMusical Oct 2015 #168

No. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #134

Yes it was. But thanks for playing leftofcool Oct 2015 #181

You missed this part of the transcript. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #8

For real, now it will be he was talking about O'Malley, when he is directly responding to Clinton. boston bean Oct 2015 #11

Didn't you read your own transcript? Bernie was addressing O'Malley in the exchange which I posted. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #16

It has nothing to do with the point of the post, nor Hillary's comments nor Bernies. boston bean Oct 2015 #19

It has everything to do with it. It shows he wasn't speaking to gender when he said that. cui bono Oct 2015 #26

If not Hillary then who specifically has been shouting? msrizzo Oct 2015 #71

He says that people on both sides of the gun issue shout instead of working to find common ground thesquanderer Oct 2015 #121

So a strawman then, msrizzo Oct 2015 #129

No. We all know everyone has been shouting on the issue Fawke Em Oct 2015 #137

Hillary is using it as a strawman, yes, if that's what you mean. cui bono Oct 2015 #155

I asked who Bernie says is shouting..... msrizzo Oct 2015 #157

That's what Bernie said though, so what is it a diversion from? cui bono Oct 2015 #159

Never mind. nt msrizzo Oct 2015 #160

It makes no sense whatsoever. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #169

People and politicians in general. Where did he specifically say Hillary was shouting? cui bono Oct 2015 #152

I'm not the one who said he said Hillary msrizzo Oct 2015 #154

It's pretty clear if you approach it to try to understand rather than to try play victim Jim Lane Oct 2015 #170

It is not short of deliberate dishonesty Rilgin Oct 2015 #177

It is disgusting Rilgin Oct 2015 #106

Agree completely. cui bono Oct 2015 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author BeanMusical Oct 2015 #174

If your point was to cast Bernie's responses as sexist then you failed, in both exchanges between Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #27

His responses were identical? Really? boston bean Oct 2015 #42

Yes do I need to post the entirety of both responses? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #53

In on he is saying to the other man on stage it is OK to raise his voice. boston bean Oct 2015 #58

This is amusing. bravenak Oct 2015 #66

It can be fun sometimes. boston bean Oct 2015 #75

Yes because men don't shout and women don't RAISE THEIR VOICE, is that what you're implying? n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #87

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm sayin.. boston bean Oct 2015 #88

Then you would be wrong. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #92

Do you feel like you've won a prize or something? boston bean Oct 2015 #95

Not particularly just in exposing an attempted smear against Bernie. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #97

There was no attempted smear, it was a transcript. boston bean Oct 2015 #99

A heavily edited PORTION of the transcript taken out of context from the entire debate while Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #104

ummmm, it was the relevant portions. Also, I provided you a whole link boston bean Oct 2015 #107

I did use your own link against your attempted smear but it didn't "bolster your point." n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #108

It surely did. So, thanks! nt boston bean Oct 2015 #109

As a dispassionate observer I must give retrowire Oct 2015 #119

You owe me a keyboard! boston bean Oct 2015 #123

Here's Bernie's interview from July and he used the terms yelling and screaming to describe Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #124

His responses to the two of them were essentially the same thesquanderer Oct 2015 #127

She doesn't care. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #172

I'll charitably assume that this is total reading comprehension fail on your part. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #171

Very good post. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #175

Thanks for keeping it real Uncle Joe. cui bono Oct 2015 #18

OOPS. Thread over, thanks Uncle Joe! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #51

There you go, ruining a perfectly lame attempt at a smear. arcane1 Oct 2015 #55

To paraphrase Hillary in Benghazi hearing, floriduck Oct 2015 #72

So Sanders used "shout" for Hillary and "raise our voices" for O'Malley? ucrdem Oct 2015 #145

Yes it appears to be. Agschmid Oct 2015 #149

Thank you! ucrdem Oct 2015 #150

In July Sanders used "yelling and screaming" in this interview and just as in his rebuttals against Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #164

Be careful Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #9

Are you serious???? sheshe2 Oct 2015 #14

I got two actually. Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #38

Ha! sheshe2 Oct 2015 #10

Lol, more like a wet firecracker. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #176

she did shout at him restorefreedom Oct 2015 #12

She did? Are you one of those persons who think a woman voicing an opinion is yelling? boston bean Oct 2015 #17

no, i am someone who can recognize the sound of a raised voice restorefreedom Oct 2015 #35

A transcript is evidence, a video is evidence. boston bean Oct 2015 #63

fine. call it an interpretation. i don't care restorefreedom Oct 2015 #86

That was everybody's take, no matter their gender. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #143

:) nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #180

LOL - you have a very strange definition BlueMTexpat Oct 2015 #28

so did i restorefreedom Oct 2015 #37

That's not what Bernie was talking about and I'm not sure you are correct. cui bono Oct 2015 #41

i know. but i don't think the inaccurate smears should stand imo. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #43

When did she shout at him? nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #44

she answered the gun question with a pretty loud voice restorefreedom Oct 2015 #46

You think so, huh? I just watched it again and I didn't hear her "shouting". boston bean Oct 2015 #48

i am willing to acknowledge that at one point or other restorefreedom Oct 2015 #60

You would have to ask Bernie why he felt it important to address Clinton in that manner boston bean Oct 2015 #62

perhaps he was responding to the energy they were sending his way restorefreedom Oct 2015 #82

Martin O'Mally was ripping him a new one on it. boston bean Oct 2015 #85

and if bernie did not respond in kind then he should have restorefreedom Oct 2015 #90

I think he was being sexist. Do I think he is a sexist, no. boston bean Oct 2015 #98

i don't dispute that. much is unconscious, even from women at times. restorefreedom Oct 2015 #103

I thought she raised her voice above that which was necessary. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #147

seemed so. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #183

This just proves that you have never heard sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #13

I like him but he always reminds me of this... zappaman Oct 2015 #15

But as per the transcript posted above by a Bernie supporter boston bean Oct 2015 #23

Oh my.... cui bono Oct 2015 #32

Is that a compliment? boston bean Oct 2015 #34

I'm sure you can spin it however you like to make yourself feel right. cui bono Oct 2015 #36

So why is it okay for you to post that pic? What if someone did that about Hillary? cui bono Oct 2015 #30

Sanders is sexist? zappaman Oct 2015 #68

lol... I worded that wrong! But what if someone posted that about Hillary? cui bono Oct 2015 #151

I demand you retract this OP and offer Sanders an apology Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #20

ROFLMAO! I will not issue a retraction of a debate transcript. LOL boston bean Oct 2015 #21

Right. I mean the stupid statements you made or linked at the end. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #24

... cui bono Oct 2015 #33

That is such a slimy tactic... JTFrog Oct 2015 #74

You're right, it's immature. cui bono Oct 2015 #153

"Don't be a jerk." JTFrog Oct 2015 #117

:) Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #161

Lolololololololol!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #69

AverageJoe90 is that you? Because, to be honest, you sound a lot like that loon. Squinch Oct 2015 #111

.. JTFrog Oct 2015 #118

Does "I strongly request you please stop lying" sound better? Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #162

I demand you apologize for saying that. And then I demand that you buy me a car. Squinch Oct 2015 #188

Haha :) Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #191

And I demand soup and cracker for my cold!! bravenak Oct 2015 #194

Alright alright point well made :) Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #195

I hope you come tho. bravenak Oct 2015 #196

Poor baby! This sounds like a miserable one. Feel better. Squinch Oct 2015 #197

I think it's breaking. Thank you. Next week is going to be good. bravenak Oct 2015 #198

I miss Joe!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #165

I remember that too. I think he was a centipede. Squinch Oct 2015 #187

I have been good. Got a cold though and skipped class. Too burned out to go with this cough. bravenak Oct 2015 #190

I know you are on the other end of the country from me, Squinch Oct 2015 #192

I demand it. Let me go tell him. bravenak Oct 2015 #193

Pretty clear he wasn't referring to her directly. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #22

I think Uncle Joe's post above absolutely does show he was referring to her directly, boston bean Oct 2015 #31

No, sorry, that's just not the case. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #49

Well, you would have to admit he was quite deferential to the man on the stage boston bean Oct 2015 #52

I'm not really sure what you mean. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #64

Oh, come on. You don't really believe this, do you? WIProgressive88 Oct 2015 #130

Yeah. boston bean Oct 2015 #131

It's extremely clear. cui bono Oct 2015 #45

Oops. Nt NCTraveler Oct 2015 #25

Sure portlander23 Oct 2015 #40

LOL!! FTW! truebrit71 Oct 2015 #84

Spot on! dorkzilla Oct 2015 #96

No iandhr Oct 2015 #138

Sure! portlander23 Oct 2015 #144

He used the same expression when he responded to O'Malley: Vattel Oct 2015 #47

Yes, he was quite deferential to Martin, giving permission to the other man to raise his voice. boston bean Oct 2015 #50

LOL you are stretching this until it's one atom thick arcane1 Oct 2015 #59

You got to look at who he is responding to. boston bean Oct 2015 #65

He was expressing the same basic idea to each of them Vattel Oct 2015 #113

Please just stop spreading your nonsense. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #57

It's a transcript for goodness sakes. It doesn't lie. boston bean Oct 2015 #61

That is true, but trials are held in person for a reason and not by transcript. The video is better. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #70

Keep misrepresenting that chicken frylock Oct 2015 #67

I like both candidates, and I don't think his comment was in the least sexixt. cwydro Oct 2015 #76

Iv'e decided im not voting forthis MAIN STREET poser. V0ltairesGh0st Oct 2015 #77

Wait, what are we arguing over? Really? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #78

K&R mcar Oct 2015 #79

HE was speaking directly to her, not about her passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #81

You would have to ask Bernie why he phrased his response that way to her, boston bean Oct 2015 #83

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #93

Please self-delete...this is obnoxious passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Oct 2015 #101

Kind of amazing that the other response to this post was hidden by a narrow 4-3 vote Persondem Oct 2015 #125

"All the shouting in the world" is an EXPRESSION.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #89

Then why did he tell O'Malley it was ok to raise voices over the same issue and points, actually? boston bean Oct 2015 #91

Still flogging this I see..... blackspade Oct 2015 #94

Well, they're both right: forest444 Oct 2015 #102

SHE IS NOT LIBERAL!! houston_radical Oct 2015 #115

absolutely. A game of deflection from the issues. retrowire Oct 2015 #120

Helping your candidate play the weak gender card eh? retrowire Oct 2015 #116

When is the Senator from a "rural state" (and a tiny one at that) going to STOP legislating.... George II Oct 2015 #122

Great post. Thank you. Sanders clearly has no people skills. Persondem Oct 2015 #126

Sanders said the same thing previously Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #128

Dumb, dumb, dumb. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #132

My husband is from Boston. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #135

The OP is a Bostonian who is very astute. iandhr Oct 2015 #139

Well, we know sexism when we see it and this isn't it. eom Fawke Em Oct 2015 #142

This one has legs. Let it run! You're on to something this time! Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #136

Too many beans, and now we have a wicked pantload. nt. Juicy_Bellows Oct 2015 #140

I had posted this before postatomic Oct 2015 #141

Irrelevent nonsense AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #146

Certain men don't like it when a strong, smart woman speaks. Beausoir Oct 2015 #148

Do you not get the irony of your own "tagline" in this post? Seriously do you just not get it? Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #163

Illogical indeed. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #178

Yes, yes, that must be it. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #179

You are a great feminist. Taking concerns of feminists and calling it drama. boston bean Oct 2015 #182

I think it's ridiculous to try to paint Sanders as "not liking it when a strong woman speaks" due to Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #184

Amen philosslayer Oct 2015 #185

Did Sanders say Clinton was shouting? No. He said that shouting would not solve the problem. mhatrw Oct 2015 #166

And you could tell he was yelling because of the bold font? nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #173

Because he shouts a lot BainsBane Oct 2015 #186

Sexism. nt LexVegas Oct 2015 #189