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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Has Sanders really always supported marriage equality [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)98. Don't let the "article" in the op fool you.
It's an opinion piece from a guy who couldn't even bother to publish this "carefully crafted non-statement statement via e-mail" he supposedly got from Bernie's office. It sounds like the guy was pissed because Bernie wouldn't give him the time of day and this was how he was going to get even.
It's short on facts and long on conjecture, which is why it's ridiculous to even cite it as a source.
This last part was left out of the op:
Thats as far as Ol Bernardo would go. Its an election year, yet despite the lack of a serious challenger, The Berns gut-level paranoia is acting up. Hes afraid to say something that might alienate his conservative, rebel-loving rural following out in the hills. Something that could be interpreted as Bernie Loves Queers!
So Bernie's not facing a serious challenger yet he's "afraid" to say something?
That doesn't even make sense.
I'm from Vermont and Bernie ALWAYS stood up for the lgbt community, he never hesitated to speak up, never pulled his punches, never cared what was popular at the time.
And it wasn't easy, it did take courage because there was a backlash against him.
He didn't give a shit about "his conservative, rebel-loving rural following out in the hills".
If he did he would never have championed lgbt rights in Vermont.
The op has absolutely no evidence that Bernie Sanders didn't support same sex marriage or lgbt equality. It's pathetic that they're pretending they finally found the "gotcha" story that's going to put an end the mythical lgbt support they've heard so much about on DU.
To prove their point they completely dismissed not only Bernie's record but his own words.
And to what purpose?
Why would anyone smear a tried and true ally like that?
I was wondering when the next desperate installment of "Not Good Enough Bernie" would appear and here it is.
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Kerry is not Bernie and I agree with virtualobserver in their post 40:
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#47
This sounds an awful lot like the PoC smear. "Not good enough, Bernie." is the spirit of the
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#51
I don't know about minorities. I only know about what I'm reading from you. And what I'm gathering
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#63
we come to a an opposite conclusion with a similar set of facts when the candidates name is
dsc
Aug 2015
#100
No, we don't. Direct quotes showing Clinton's opposition to same sex marriage:
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#127
Are you saying there isn't any evidence Bernie supported same sex marriage in the past?
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#3
I have not spent a lot of time checking on the claim given here but I did not find any evidence
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#20
Color me shocked. I didn't really look, and I didn't notice anything either.
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#53
I've never seen that claim, what I have seen is that he supported lgbt rights for decades.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#7
No, I meant the research you didn't do when you constructed your straw man.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#12
this endless attempt to justify Hillary's questionable record is just embarassing
virtualobserver
Aug 2015
#15
Lets abolish ALL laws which attempt to impose a particular brand of morality or "right" on people.
virtualobserver
Aug 2015
#59
It isn't evidence when every single solitary straight person who cast the same vote he did
dsc
Aug 2015
#75
I don't do summaries due to then, I am sure, being accused of slanting said summaries
dsc
Aug 2015
#101
She has responsibility for her own statements in support of sentencing, welfare reform, etc.
jeff47
Aug 2015
#66
So still can't quite grasp the difference between attending an event and joining their group.
jeff47
Aug 2015
#76
bernie is not the perfect saint his fans make him out to be. And, they've done him no favors pushing
Cha
Aug 2015
#71
"It's amazing what campaigns will bring out of people ... Sometimes, their real self shines..
Cha
Aug 2015
#90
Bernie Sanders, 1983: “It is my very strong view that a society which proclaims human freedom
Zorra
Aug 2015
#96
His support preceded hers, and came at a time when it wans't yet "safe" to give it.
Betty Karlson
Aug 2015
#99
Everything has its time. It takes a long time to lay the groundwork for social change.
Zorra
Aug 2015
#120
the important thing is now Libya and Honduras are gay paradises after her intervention
MisterP
Aug 2015
#121