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Response to dsc (Original post)

I guess the "vile" Obama evolved as well as TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #1
Ummm... milehighmilehigh Aug 2015 #2
that isn't about marriage equality dsc Aug 2015 #4
What does "abolish all laws which attempt to impose a particular brand Zorra Aug 2015 #9
There was no law that banned gay marriage in Vermont dsc Aug 2015 #11
BTW you don't like my source, fine, I have another dsc Aug 2015 #16
And again you fail to breathe life into that straw man. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #25
No all of the following voted against DOMA but didn't support marriage equality dsc Aug 2015 #32
Prove Bernie didn't support same sex marriage or stop saying it. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #34
It doesn't work that way dsc Aug 2015 #37
Yes, it does work that way. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #39
several are saying that in this thread dsc Aug 2015 #45
Kerry is not Bernie and I agree with virtualobserver in their post 40: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #47
I provided the Congressional record from the law dsc Aug 2015 #48
You haven't proven that Bernie didn't support same sex marriage. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #49
This sounds an awful lot like the PoC smear. "Not good enough, Bernie." is the spirit of the Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #51
Yes, it does. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #56
yeah you know us minorities just a bunch of smear merchants dsc Aug 2015 #58
I don't know about minorities. I only know about what I'm reading from you. And what I'm gathering Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #63
He also supports the ACA. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #38
This isn't a stand alone vote dsc Aug 2015 #52
So he wrote a letter in the 70's RichVRichV Aug 2015 #67
No that is isn't what I said dsc Aug 2015 #77
So what did Bernie say as to his reasons for voting against it? RichVRichV Aug 2015 #78
He didn't which is my point dsc Aug 2015 #79
Let's recap the actual facts posted in this thread. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #85
^^^THIS^^^THIS^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #86
Fantastic post. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #89
we come to a an opposite conclusion with a similar set of facts when the candidates name is dsc Aug 2015 #100
Oh bullshit. TM99 Aug 2015 #103
that is the bullshit dsc Aug 2015 #105
You continue to distort reality TM99 Aug 2015 #107
If he was in support of marriage equality in 1996 dsc Aug 2015 #108
He voted against DOMA. TM99 Aug 2015 #113
No it doesn't dsc Aug 2015 #117
I am done playing your stupid little games. TM99 Aug 2015 #118
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #106
except that is proven to be a left wing smear job dsc Aug 2015 #109
Who is "we"? RichVRichV Aug 2015 #116
No, we don't. Direct quotes showing Clinton's opposition to same sex marriage: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #127
You seem to be having a sad over Bernie's better and longer record than Zorra Aug 2015 #94
Geeze you're being a nit picker Armstead Aug 2015 #119
No, but... damonm Aug 2015 #21
I have no problem with Sanders letter dsc Aug 2015 #35
Are you saying there isn't any evidence Bernie supported same sex marriage in the past? Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #3
yeah pretty much dsc Aug 2015 #5
I have not spent a lot of time checking on the claim given here but I did not find any evidence Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #20
Color me shocked. I didn't really look, and I didn't notice anything either. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #53
You didn't manage to find 1972 with "a lot of time checking"? jeff47 Aug 2015 #61
Nice try: Bernie Sanders Was for Full Gay Equality 40 Years Ago Zorra Aug 2015 #6
I've never seen that claim, what I have seen is that he supported lgbt rights for decades. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #7
On the subject of research dsc Aug 2015 #8
No, I meant the research you didn't do when you constructed your straw man. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #12
this endless attempt to justify Hillary's questionable record is just embarassing virtualobserver Aug 2015 #15
I notice not one substantive comment on my takedown of the huffington post piece dsc Aug 2015 #17
no name calling, this is just a waste of time virtualobserver Aug 2015 #24
It is embarrassing. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #26
yeah the hiv travel ban is minuta dsc Aug 2015 #29
It's a good thing you edited your post. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #33
a don't care about any particular article virtualobserver Aug 2015 #40
It depends on what the meaning of restriction is dsc Aug 2015 #43
no reasonable person could read the following.... virtualobserver Aug 2015 #44
yeah they pretty much could and did dsc Aug 2015 #46
the point is about what Bernie believed virtualobserver Aug 2015 #55
then he would have written that dsc Aug 2015 #57
Lets abolish ALL laws which attempt to impose a particular brand of morality or "right" on people. virtualobserver Aug 2015 #59
because marriage isn't sexual behavior dsc Aug 2015 #60
there are two separate sentences virtualobserver Aug 2015 #64
"Bernie embraced same-sex marriage fewer decades before Hillary" MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #10
actually it might not even be decades at all dsc Aug 2015 #13
"These are not the Droids you are looking for." MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #19
that doesn't apply to marriage equality dsc Aug 2015 #23
What prevented "gay marriage" in 1972? jeff47 Aug 2015 #62
a definiton not a separate law dsc Aug 2015 #65
The definition was based on sexual orientation. jeff47 Aug 2015 #68
the best I have found for him is 2009 dsc Aug 2015 #70
No, your goal is to "help" your candidate. jeff47 Aug 2015 #73
It isn't evidence when every single solitary straight person who cast the same vote he did dsc Aug 2015 #75
Again, what was the position where you oppose both "gay marriage" and DOMA? jeff47 Aug 2015 #80
Read the link I provided dsc Aug 2015 #81
Because the concept of a summary is difficult? jeff47 Aug 2015 #83
I don't do summaries due to then, I am sure, being accused of slanting said summaries dsc Aug 2015 #101
Here: Read it, and weep for your lost cause. Zorra Aug 2015 #22
I will try this very slowly dsc Aug 2015 #28
yes Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #14
Yeah I already discussed that hot mess of a piece but here you go again dsc Aug 2015 #18
There is no end to this sort of thing BainsBane Aug 2015 #27
What sort of thing? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #30
She has responsibility for her own statements in support of sentencing, welfare reform, etc. jeff47 Aug 2015 #66
Sanders mentions one of the Family's events on his website BainsBane Aug 2015 #72
So still can't quite grasp the difference between attending an event and joining their group. jeff47 Aug 2015 #76
That was outstanding. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #84
Brilliant post, Bains. Mahalo! Cha Aug 2015 #92
We've got a movement for civil rights going on right now in America BainsBane Aug 2015 #93
Yes, For Michael Brown, the hundreds since, and the hundreds before~ Cha Aug 2015 #95
Jus like the 2007 candidate of "hardworking people, white people"? n/t eridani Aug 2015 #97
K & R & bookmarked. Thanks for the research. nt SunSeeker Aug 2015 #31
Hillary and Sanders are both on my side on this. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #36
I agree with that dsc Aug 2015 #42
What change did she make? jeff47 Aug 2015 #69
she got state to let gay spouses travel on diplomatic passports dsc Aug 2015 #74
Thank you for this dsc. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #41
Has Bernie ever not supported marriage equality? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #50
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #54
bernie is not the perfect saint his fans make him out to be. And, they've done him no favors pushing Cha Aug 2015 #71
the song of hillary supporters in relation to Bernie... virtualobserver Aug 2015 #87
Bernie didn't stand up and recite, from memory, delrem Aug 2015 #82
How much do they care? NCTraveler Aug 2015 #88
"It's amazing what campaigns will bring out of people ... Sometimes, their real self shines.. Cha Aug 2015 #90
Another day, another hit piece. TM99 Aug 2015 #91
Bernie Sanders, 1983: “It is my very strong view that a society which proclaims human freedom Zorra Aug 2015 #96
Don't let the "article" in the op fool you. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #98
Do you have a link for that dsc Aug 2015 #102
Here Zorra Aug 2015 #110
fair enough doesn't specificaly mention marriage but is a good statement dsc Aug 2015 #115
His support preceded hers, and came at a time when it wans't yet "safe" to give it. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #99
actually his support did predate hers dsc Aug 2015 #104
Everything has its time. It takes a long time to lay the groundwork for social change. Zorra Aug 2015 #120
yes gay people had nothing to do with it it was all Bernie dsc Aug 2015 #123
How deliberately obtuse, and deceitful. Zorra Aug 2015 #125
You had to work hard to find LWolf Aug 2015 #111
actually I found that by accident while looking for something else dsc Aug 2015 #112
Does opposing DOMA, voting against it LWolf Aug 2015 #114
the important thing is now Libya and Honduras are gay paradises after her intervention MisterP Aug 2015 #121
and they were before dsc Aug 2015 #122
Unrecommended to the max. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #124
+100000000 Zorra Aug 2015 #126
So a 15 year old non-answer is the best you got? Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #128
Where is the around 2000? dsc Aug 2015 #129
Isn't that article from 1/26/2000? Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #130
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