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In reply to the discussion: 4 Poll Numbers That Should Unnerve Hillary Clinton - WaPo [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)209. A real man walking the talk. Another is your hero, Muhammad Ali who fought the MIC.
He didn't support their works. Were things simpler then than now?
On April 28, 1967, boxing champion Muhammad Ali refuses to be inducted into the U.S. Army and is immediately stripped of his heavyweight title. Ali, a Muslim, cited religious reasons for his decision to forgo military service.
Born Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr., in Louisville, Kentucky, on January 14, 1942, the future three-time world champ changed his name to Muhammad Ali in 1964 after converting to Islam. He scored a gold medal at the 1960 Olympic Games in Rome and made his professional boxing debut against Tunney Husaker on October 29, 1960, winning the bout in six rounds. On February 25, 1964, he defeated the heavily favored bruiser Sonny Liston in six rounds to become heavyweight champ.
On April 28, 1967, with the United States at war in Vietnam, Ali refused to be inducted into the armed forces, saying I aint got no quarrel with those Vietcong. On June 20, 1967, Ali was convicted of draft evasion, sentenced to five years in prison, fined $10,000 and banned from boxing for three years. He stayed out of prison as his case was appealed and returned to the ring on October 26, 1970, knocking out Jerry Quarry in Atlanta in the third round. On March 8, 1971, Ali fought Joe Frazier in the Fight of the Century and lost after 15 rounds, the first loss of his professional boxing career. On June 28 of that same year, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned his conviction for evading the draft.
At a January 24, 1974, rematch at New York Citys Madison Square Garden, Ali defeated Frazier by decision in 12 rounds. On October 30 of that same year, an underdog Ali bested George Forman and reclaimed his heavyweight champion belt at the hugely hyped Rumble in the Jungle in Kinshasa, Zaire, with a knockout in the eighth round. On October 1, 1975, Ali met Joe Frazier for a third time at the Thrilla in Manila in the Philippines and defeated him in 14 rounds. On February 15, 1978, Ali lost the title to Leon Spinks in a 15-round split decision. However, seven months later, on September 15, Ali won it back. In June 1979, Ali announced he was retiring from boxing. He returned to the ring on October 2, 1980, and fought heavyweight champ Larry Holmes, who knocked him out in the 11th round. After losing to Trevor Berbick on December 11, 1981, Ali left the ring for the final time, with a 56-5 record. He is the only fighter to be heavyweight champion three times. In 1984, it was revealed Ali had Parkinsons disease.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/muhammad-ali-refuses-army-induction
When it counted, he put his life on the line, standing up for what was right.
On April 28, 1967, boxing champion Muhammad Ali refuses to be inducted into the U.S. Army and is immediately stripped of his heavyweight title. Ali, a Muslim, cited religious reasons for his decision to forgo military service.
Born Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr., in Louisville, Kentucky, on January 14, 1942, the future three-time world champ changed his name to Muhammad Ali in 1964 after converting to Islam. He scored a gold medal at the 1960 Olympic Games in Rome and made his professional boxing debut against Tunney Husaker on October 29, 1960, winning the bout in six rounds. On February 25, 1964, he defeated the heavily favored bruiser Sonny Liston in six rounds to become heavyweight champ.
On April 28, 1967, with the United States at war in Vietnam, Ali refused to be inducted into the armed forces, saying I aint got no quarrel with those Vietcong. On June 20, 1967, Ali was convicted of draft evasion, sentenced to five years in prison, fined $10,000 and banned from boxing for three years. He stayed out of prison as his case was appealed and returned to the ring on October 26, 1970, knocking out Jerry Quarry in Atlanta in the third round. On March 8, 1971, Ali fought Joe Frazier in the Fight of the Century and lost after 15 rounds, the first loss of his professional boxing career. On June 28 of that same year, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned his conviction for evading the draft.
At a January 24, 1974, rematch at New York Citys Madison Square Garden, Ali defeated Frazier by decision in 12 rounds. On October 30 of that same year, an underdog Ali bested George Forman and reclaimed his heavyweight champion belt at the hugely hyped Rumble in the Jungle in Kinshasa, Zaire, with a knockout in the eighth round. On October 1, 1975, Ali met Joe Frazier for a third time at the Thrilla in Manila in the Philippines and defeated him in 14 rounds. On February 15, 1978, Ali lost the title to Leon Spinks in a 15-round split decision. However, seven months later, on September 15, Ali won it back. In June 1979, Ali announced he was retiring from boxing. He returned to the ring on October 2, 1980, and fought heavyweight champ Larry Holmes, who knocked him out in the 11th round. After losing to Trevor Berbick on December 11, 1981, Ali left the ring for the final time, with a 56-5 record. He is the only fighter to be heavyweight champion three times. In 1984, it was revealed Ali had Parkinsons disease.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/muhammad-ali-refuses-army-induction
When it counted, he put his life on the line, standing up for what was right.
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I don't think we ever really saw an accurate headcount of those events, either. Will we ever?
George II
Aug 2015
#231
And the converse of that: the more people see Sanders, the more people choose him n/t
arcane1
Jul 2015
#27
You mean he is able to revert to the answer he wants to give rather than the one ask?
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#194
He reverts back to his finanical lines, when ask about POC, it is back to the finanical answer or
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#203
Okay, perhaps in the debates he will correct these issues and not give the canned
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#218
No, it would be the dream of those posting here complaining about debates and how they are handled.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#222
And how did this help the candidates? If the candidates are not able to get their message out in 6
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#228
Are we to assume that you are opposed to Economic Equality for POC and dismissive
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#240
Your compadre suggested Bernie beat that intellectual giant, Chuck Todd in a debate so he ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#62
If you believe Bernie Sanders is the reincarnation of Daniel Webster there is nothing...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#68
I am not interested in one cherry picked answer from the dozens of debates...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#105
Thank you. Some folks have a strange definition of what is liberal and progressive and what isn't.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#155
And THAT is why most of us are members of DU, thanks for your excellent post!
George II
Jul 2015
#162
I could add a few, from what I know about you; but, that would be over-kill ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#177
It's a pity that a long time member here has to be attacked because the member's screen name....
George II
Jul 2015
#161
Congratulations - you've now had two "straw" cliches/deflections used against you...
George II
Jul 2015
#143
If the issue at hand is Hillary Clinton's favorability rating, remember..........
George II
Jul 2015
#75
One of the benefits of the internet. to have these reminders of past performances at the ready..
2banon
Aug 2015
#214
I expected Hillary's favorables and unfavorables to fluctuate with time.
winter is coming
Jul 2015
#51
No time for debates when she's vacay-ing in $18 million shack in the Hamptons!
Divernan
Jul 2015
#60
with a strong source of money coming in the party's funding remains the same win or lose, national-
MisterP
Jul 2015
#118
Well, the difference between Hillary Clinton's unfavorable/favorable is 3 points, the difference...
George II
Jul 2015
#78
I think it's the other way around, particularly with respect to favorability ratings...
George II
Aug 2015
#206
I am not settling for the lessor of the Two Corporate Evils, why would I settle for the lesser
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#197
HRC - Corporate Controlled By Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - An Unabashed 1% Minion
cantbeserious
Aug 2015
#199
Bernie votes to fund wars and this helps defense contractors, corporations. Bernie attends events
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#202
Did Bernie Report 140 Million Dollars In Taxable Income Since 2007 - Bill And Hillary Did
cantbeserious
Aug 2015
#207
She will solve her favorability problems in the general election after she summarily dispatches...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#3
She has never lost a general election. I believe your candidate has lost several...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#106
If I was a smaller man I would take umbrage at you suggesting I was a deaf woman
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#113
A real man walking the talk. Another is your hero, Muhammad Ali who fought the MIC.
freshwest
Aug 2015
#209
Here is another photo from that era when he met with other black athletes to discuss his...
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2015
#210
Thanks for that. A true hero indeed. I caught flak for supporting him. He was a brave man. n/t
freshwest
Aug 2015
#212
New Hampshire is not an accurate gauge for Sanders...it's almost like his home state....
George II
Jul 2015
#83
Correct - these polls are getting out of hand. But, to put these "favorable/unfavorable" numbers...
George II
Jul 2015
#28
The likely GOP nominee, Bush lll, wants to eliminate Medicare and says Americans are lazy...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#14
If anybody will depress turnout he has shown no ability to engage African Americans and Latinos:
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#23
Put yourself in the other person's shoes...It's always a useful exercise.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#30
I will answer your attempt at a rebuttal with the same paucity of thought, yes she will.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#81
And we know why that was. The 'big tent' wasn't exclusive enough for some, unfortunately.
freshwest
Aug 2015
#211
Do all of Hilary Clinton's detractors try to find the most unflattering photographs of woman of a
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#42
If you have a complaint, register it with the author of the YOUTUBE video.
AtomicKitten
Jul 2015
#43
Riiiiiiiight. Can't dispute the facts so you go straight to accusations of misogyny.
AtomicKitten
Jul 2015
#55
I am willing to submit your post and what it reveals about you and my life to the test of history.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#176
As a fellow denizen of this board indicated the introduction of the video has been photoshopped.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#134
Lookism is one of those subtle forms of prejudice that rubs me the wrong way...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#183
I have agency and as part of that agency I get to decide what I respond to and how I respond.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#138
What a warped view of Hillary. For somebody supposedly expecting a coronation, she has put in a lot
Metric System
Jul 2015
#34
How many supportershas declared coronation? None, must be the others thinks Hillary should be
Thinkingabout
Jul 2015
#46
PBO Will Be > 50% approval because the unemployment rate will be < 5%
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#64
Let's just say in the coming month's we are going to see a huge crash & bern.
William769
Jul 2015
#179
looking forward to the time when you will actually post a string of positives for your candidate
Sheepshank
Jul 2015
#151