2016 Postmortem

Fearless

(18,421 posts) Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:46 PM Jul 2015

Question Two: Does Bernie's platform and history support black people? [View all]

As we can see from the previous poll, obviously Bernie Sanders is not racist in the eyes of DUers.

(http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251466009)

Question Two:

Do you believe that Bernie's platform and voting/speaking history shows that he cares about and supports black people (and all minorities)?

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Question Two: Does Bernie's platform and history support black people? [View all] Fearless Jul 2015 OP

Bravenak: LWolf Jul 2015 #1

Downthread. bravenak Jul 2015 #5

depends on how you say it, part 2... luvspeas Jul 2015 #2

Much to my delight I have taken to reading your post Fearless Jul 2015 #4

thenk you, no! thenk you! not at all! most indubidibly! luvspeas Jul 2015 #8

with bongos KittyWampus Jul 2015 #71

He views everthing through an economic lens. bravenak Jul 2015 #3

Would you say that Fearless Jul 2015 #6

Hillary spends more time with black people so she knows better than to pivot to economics bravenak Jul 2015 #9

Sometimes you can learn more about people by hanging around them than reading a bunch of books DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #28

True. Here I go being all pro Hillary. :( bravenak Jul 2015 #29

this is the same reason she is popular among gays JI7 Jul 2015 #57

She takes time out for everybody. It helps alot. bravenak Jul 2015 #58

No she doesn't. Welfare reform. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #75

She should not have. But she still know how to connect and her supporters are nice to black people. bravenak Jul 2015 #78

So is Bernie and his supporters London Lover Man Jul 2015 #79

No. Many of his supporters have spent the past few days attacking black folks. bravenak Jul 2015 #81

She was a Senator from New York. KamaAina Jul 2015 #93

This is why I keep saying 'Bernie needs to hire some black people'. It would help. bravenak Jul 2015 #135

I would say Hillary is racist as fuck! However, Bernie doesn't seem to understand racism and would Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #42

What issue do you see him refusing to address? Bernie has never dismissed police racism as an issue Ken Burch Jul 2015 #167

I'm more impressed with his solution and results than the way he packages them. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #10

Good for you. I guess he'll win without us who are not exactly like you. You're BETTER. bravenak Jul 2015 #11

You and your opinions are irrelevant to me. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #14

Then why are you bothering me? bravenak Jul 2015 #16

Maybe your interlocutor will get "The Invisible Man" for his or her birthday. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #30

They come to bug me just to say they don't care what I think. Sigh. bravenak Jul 2015 #31

As an ambassador for the white race all I can say is most of us don't roll like that./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #32

I know. These are special snowflakes. bravenak Jul 2015 #33

Um, I was thinking of Lewis Black's 'special snowflakes,' but is this the new thing? freshwest Jul 2015 #169

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #85

Look at you, that is repulsive. I might alert. bravenak Jul 2015 #89

It would never get hid with our current hury system. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #95

Being a man means you are never too big to say you were wrong. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #98

Hidden! DU is better than we think! Thank you jury!! bravenak Jul 2015 #99

And that is one of the most specialist. okasha Jul 2015 #142

Gah!!! No more this stuff. I wish it stop soon. Ahhhh!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #143

Obama supporters have dealt with B.S. about him for 6+ years and some Bernie supporters stevenleser Jul 2015 #174

He deserved to get that post hidden. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #146

Silly season and a few not quite real supporters being loud and drowing out all the good stuff. bravenak Jul 2015 #148

Online trolling and real life trolling below: freshwest Jul 2015 #173

Unreal.. so glad you're on here, bravenak.. need I say .. your opinions are very relevant to Cha Jul 2015 #103

Thank you. bravenak Jul 2015 #104

You're too kind.. I think they're acting like.. Cha Jul 2015 #110

Well... This will go down as the longest just deliberation ever... Results Glassunion Jul 2015 #132

Wow. Jesus. bravenak Jul 2015 #133

He's trying to be relevant. ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #154

Gah! So random. bravenak Jul 2015 #155

That was a snotty thing to say.... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #25

Well isn't that just par for the course Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #41

Ummmmmm BooScout Jul 2015 #47

HERE IT IS, FOLKS!! ***RIGHT HERE*** Number23 Jul 2015 #117

Results... Major Nikon Jul 2015 #145

That's not over the top at all n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #21

After 17000 rude condescending comments from bernie supporters I'm not in the mood for bullshit. bravenak Jul 2015 #24

You're right. okasha Jul 2015 #144

What results can you point to since he was in congress? Renew Deal Jul 2015 #83

I just got home and logged on. My Post button was all lit up Snotcicles Jul 2015 #126

So, LWolf Jul 2015 #12

Pretty much. His message is not for us. bravenak Jul 2015 #13

Thank you. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #15

De nada. bravenak Jul 2015 #19

Why were his previous comments on it not good enough? jeff47 Jul 2015 #87

He needs to spend time with black people. His message was crafted for people like you, not me. bravenak Jul 2015 #91

So, a sort of "Just doesn't sound right" kind of thing? jeff47 Jul 2015 #94

Kinda. Yes. Like a let us tell you what we need thing. bravenak Jul 2015 #100

Thank you, Bravenak Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #17

Thank you!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #18

Keep in mind... Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #20

I know. But the ones who get it really get it good. bravenak Jul 2015 #22

Yep...some definitely get it... Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #23

The best, really!-nt Anansi1171 Jul 2015 #90

Do you have evidence to support your assertions? You seem to think he can't walk and chew... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #34

Have you paid attention AT ALL the last few days? If I get one more angry condescending lecture bravenak Jul 2015 #35

If you know his damn record, stop misrepresenting it. Is that too much to ask? n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #37

Stop condescending to me. I am not a damn child. I misrepresent nothing. bravenak Jul 2015 #38

Where is the attack? Indeed, where is the condescension? In fact, where is the evidence that... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #39

Lecturing me on his record like I never knew. bravenak Jul 2015 #43

Going by your post on this thread, I honestly thought you didn't know, I haven't been in... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #50

Oh. Well okay. We all know by now, fyi. bravenak Jul 2015 #51

take a good look at his record HFRN Jul 2015 #113

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #114

Where's Jaime Lanister when we need him? Fozzledick Jul 2015 #129

I like Bernie just fine. bravenak Jul 2015 #131

Glad I never commented on this on Twitter.... John Poet Jul 2015 #147

Hee hee hee! You did good. Stay out of the fray. bravenak Jul 2015 #149

Sorry about that hidden thread. You did not deserve that. stevenleser Jul 2015 #175

His record includes his reaction at Net roots BainsBane Jul 2015 #52

OK, this I don't understand, why should it be race vs. economics, aren't they all connected anyways? Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #66

They are interconnected, but race is not secondary to economics BainsBane Jul 2015 #76

"Sanders seems to believe it is all the result of poverty." Evidence for this statement? Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #97

What has he said to suggest otherwise? BainsBane Jul 2015 #124

I'm not sure what you are asking for here, has Bernie Sanders ever said that racial... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #137

My point was that he sees economics as the cause BainsBane Jul 2015 #177

As the cause of what? Racism? Police violence? Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #179

I wonder if Sanders thinks it's about poverty and that Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #128

What's to be said for it okasha Jul 2015 #150

Yeah, this is impossible. I hope Bernie can come up with an answer you all approve Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #151

As a Sanders supporter, I am truly embarrassed... TDale313 Jul 2015 #69

Sanders is reaching out to the black community right now. bravenak Jul 2015 #70

I think it is a positive sign. TDale313 Jul 2015 #80

Not an either / or BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #45

Sorry but this is exactly what I mean. This is not helpful. Thanks though. bravenak Jul 2015 #46

What would be helpful? BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #48

We are talking about racism and it always gets deflected in favor of something else. bravenak Jul 2015 #49

Community empowerment through health and economics can absolutely move us closer to social justice BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #55

See, we don't want you to add to or change the subject. That's the problem. bravenak Jul 2015 #56

I am "we", and we can disagree BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #59

Here go the lectures from well meaning liberals. bravenak Jul 2015 #60

Not once have I suggested what you should focus on BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #61

Fine. Okay. Just have had too many lectures. bravenak Jul 2015 #62

Sounds good. Take care. n/t BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #63

Oh, here's something that was broadcast in my area about this locally: Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #68

Thanks for sharing this BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #88

so do the Koch brothers HFRN Jul 2015 #101

That had nothing to do with anything. I do not care about the Kochs today. bravenak Jul 2015 #102

of course you don't - you're not a 'dot connecter' nt HFRN Jul 2015 #105

That is calling me stupid. I think i will alert. I have never alerted so many posts in one day. bravenak Jul 2015 #106

be sure to post the result nt HFRN Jul 2015 #108

No. bravenak Jul 2015 #109

bravenak.. You know what you can tell from jury comments? MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #115

I think 2 of the explanations were pretty clear HFRN Jul 2015 #116

Yes. That is par for the course. bravenak Jul 2015 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author HFRN Jul 2015 #180

What makes you so much more intelligent than your interlocutor? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #127

what's the punchline? nt HFRN Jul 2015 #138

You/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #139

now you did it HFRN Jul 2015 #140

LOL/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #141

We have an amazing poster who is always willing to talk about this issue. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #7

I find both of your polls offensive... luvspeas Jul 2015 #26

Yeah and here's why... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #27

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #44

Can I ask you a question? Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #53

Admittedly, I am furious, so I will allow this OP and thread to illustrate the points... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #65

I think maybe you have me confused with someone else. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #73

You asked if I would allow you to ask me a question. What's your question? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #77

I don't know man I forget. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #84

I'm a LADY! Go Steelers! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #92

LOL so sorry about that. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #96

Ironically, Bernie gets accused of NOT being two faced nt HFRN Jul 2015 #111

Yes, but keep in mind rock Jul 2015 #36

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #40

some people on the left frame things through a class based analysis. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #54

Gee, I thought it did. But what do I know? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #64

How to post crap like this. bravenak Jul 2015 #67

I have never seen anything like that on a "progressive board" before. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #72

No shit. Skinner may need to do something soon. bravenak Jul 2015 #74

+1 Historic NY Jul 2015 #178

Just when I thought all of these non-black people running to vote "yes" would be the most Number23 Jul 2015 #119

Ready to burn DU to the ground. Start a fire and cleanse this place. They act like Jehovah witnesses bravenak Jul 2015 #120

And Liberal_Stalwart is the first casualty. On a time out for what looks like three months Number23 Jul 2015 #122

They got me too. I said, youse a hater. Hidden 4-3. bravenak Jul 2015 #123

Oh wow.. 'cause of course no one can feel the hate. Cha Jul 2015 #162

I know, right? bravenak Jul 2015 #165

Comrade Grumpy I got my eye on you... luvspeas Jul 2015 #86

Get lost n/t. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #171

wow. it took you this long to come up with that? luvspeas Jul 2015 #176

Apparently you need to get a clue.. Cha Jul 2015 #112

It sounds like you are trying to say "all lives matter?" Renew Deal Jul 2015 #82

wow, quite some attacks going on in these threads. delrem Jul 2015 #107

how many who answered here are black? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #118

That is a very true point BainsBane Jul 2015 #125

The ones who got alerted on or hidden in this thread are the black ones. Always. bravenak Jul 2015 #136

kind of like the movies BainsBane Jul 2015 #170

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #130

That works both ways but I bet you already knew that. nc4bo Jul 2015 #134

I'm still trying to figure out ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #152

I am in very rare agreement with you ibegurpard Jul 2015 #153

The point is to engage in dialog around specific point of fact statements. Fearless Jul 2015 #157

What doesn't work ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #158

The point was to answer the question asked not to find out if someone supported Bernie or not. Fearless Jul 2015 #159

On a site that is 85% Bernie supporters ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #163

^ Zorra Jul 2015 #156

Who cares? No, really. Recursion Jul 2015 #160

We actually are projected to pick up the Senate currently. Fearless Jul 2015 #161

How does "the right voice" overcome gerrymandering? Recursion Jul 2015 #164

The right voice inspires people to go to the polls. Fearless Jul 2015 #166

As a white guy, I'm not really qualified to make any definitive statement mythology Jul 2015 #168

not rich black people that much Doctor_J Jul 2015 #172