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thevoiceofreason

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141. Hoe did AP=GfK polling compare in 2012?

Reply to L0oniX (Original post)

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:32 AM

Jul 2015

Oh yeah - it was last. 28th out of 28 ranked.

Poor sampling cited most often.

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Hillary's Poll numbers in free fall [View all] L0oniX Jul 2015 OP

LINK, please? That would be POWERLINE.com? The right wing blog? MADem Jul 2015 #1

It is not from Powerline, it is from the AP Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #2

The ORIGINAL LINK went to POWERLINE. MADem Jul 2015 #32

The original image was from the AP Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #38

The original LINK in the thread starting POST went to POWERLINE. MADem Jul 2015 #52

So what? Either it's wrong info or it isn't. If it's wrong, refute. merrily Jul 2015 #71

It's always wrong to link without attribution, or to post headlines without links. MADem Jul 2015 #94

I didn't advocate anything other than reducing meaningless knee jerk source shaming. merrily Jul 2015 #101

Unnnnh....yes, you did. Your words are not invisible. MADem Jul 2015 #104

See Reply 106, As usual, this got tedious fast. Last word is yours. merrily Jul 2015 #107

Hard truth is always tedious. nt MADem Jul 2015 #114

Is the information right or wrong? You have made several posts now about sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #143

Try this one: LWolf Jul 2015 #3

Yet she is handing the Rethuglicans their asses and that's all that matters to me DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #6

I think almost any Democratic candidate would do that. LWolf Jul 2015 #8

Yet the little polling we have shows Senator Sanders trailing the Republicans./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #9

And, as you know, polls this far out are meaningless. However, merrily Jul 2015 #76

Yes and Bernie will handle em just fine. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #68

Hell ...Skittles could do that too. L0oniX Jul 2015 #18

Nice work. Being assidously ignored, though. merrily Jul 2015 #83

Concealing sources is shameFUL. If there was nothing to be ashamed of, why hide it? MADem Jul 2015 #86

In your mind. merrily Jul 2015 #88

Post 94. nt MADem Jul 2015 #96

AP is the source, is it not? Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #90

Nooooo---the source of the DIRE headline, and the source of the posted jpg, was MADem Jul 2015 #98

I did. Maybe it was edited. Either way, don't kill the messenger. It was data derived from an Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #109

No "maybe" about it--and the headline was lifted right off POWERLINE. MADem Jul 2015 #113

Surely you're not trying to distract from the fact that the OP used a far rightwing blog MADem Jul 2015 #121

Of course not. LWolf Jul 2015 #134

Ah yes--that "free fall" characterization from the right wing blog is just so "valid." MADem Jul 2015 #135

No matter what words you want to use, LWolf Jul 2015 #138

Not at all true, but the real bottom line is that people shouldn't use unattributed MADem Jul 2015 #139

So use all the links I provided. LWolf Jul 2015 #140

So what! It doesn't mean they won't vote for her. They will. yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #27

I think the use of right wing sources on this website -- particularly when they MADem Jul 2015 #29

Yes you are right. yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #30

Hell, they'll be posting shit from The Blaze before this is over with LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #53

The tortured defenses of this egregious conduct are what I find most amusing. MADem Jul 2015 #117

Only if the info is wrong, in which case it should be refuted. merrily Jul 2015 #78

Why am I not surprised? MADem Jul 2015 #82

I am not defending any source, simply objecting to meaningless, knee jerk source shaming. merrily Jul 2015 #85

Yes, you are--anyone can read your posts and see what you're saying. MADem Jul 2015 #102

Good grief. Yes, anyone can read my posts. So there's no need for you to pretend my posts say merrily Jul 2015 #106

Telling us "So what? ...refute" wingnut shit, from wingnut sources, does not support the MADem Jul 2015 #112

Is Politico right wing? senz Jul 2015 #74

Is the Pope Catholic? It's owned by the same family that kicked Bill Maher off ABC. MADem Jul 2015 #84

In all fairness ALMOST a third describe her as trustworthy!!! Indepatriot Jul 2015 #4

What a wonderful site you took that from. zappaman Jul 2015 #5

The image is not from Powerline it is from the AP Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #11

Top story on powerlineblog. zappaman Jul 2015 #12

Power Line cites the AP source Blus4u Jul 2015 #34

LOL, here's what else your "article" says.... R B Garr Jul 2015 #41

Use the data, not the shitty analysis from the site. The data doesn't lie, only the people Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #72

Nice try. The article said what it said. R B Garr Jul 2015 #87

I didn't read the article, I can do my own analysis of polls, and don't need the help of Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #110

It doesn't work that way. R B Garr Jul 2015 #120

What's wrong with Marty O'Malley? appalachiablue Jul 2015 #116

Is it just a coincidence then the title of your thread? Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #13

Total coincidence! zappaman Jul 2015 #14

It is not my thread and it is not Powerline's graphic Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #15

You're right, not your thread Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #16

Wrong, it was taken from the AP Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #19

No shit Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #21

It looks like the OP edited out the image from Powerline sufrommich Jul 2015 #24

I see no reference to Powerline in the OP Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #25

That's because you didn't right click on the ORIGINAL (not the edited) image. MADem Jul 2015 #36

All that means is Powerline hosted a copy of the image on their server Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #42

You really ARE determined to die on that hill with the thread starter! MADem Jul 2015 #54

False, the OP did not have to read Powerline to get that image Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #60

NOT ONE INCH! Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #64

You should really stop. Dawgs Jul 2015 #73

alert results irisblue Jul 2015 #128

You posted this in the wrong spot Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #137

And he got the POWERLINE headline by magic, too? MADem Jul 2015 #115

Here, I made pictures for you Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #37

All that means is that Powerline hosted a copy of the image on their server Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #43

You're really going to die on that hill eh? Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #45

No it is not their own image Bjorn Against Jul 2015 #48

such a weird stand you're taking Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #51

And an ignominious death it is, too. MADem Jul 2015 #50

The Sanders Enforcement Committee redstateblues Jul 2015 #130

The OP seems to have bailed, I only see one reply. Agschmid Jul 2015 #56

Can ya blame him? zappaman Jul 2015 #58

Nope. Agschmid Jul 2015 #59

The OP took the image from Powerline. That is obvious from the edit history. nt MADem Jul 2015 #35

The headline too. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #39

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #7

Ahh, the Bezos Billionaire's Gazette. moondust Jul 2015 #10

+1 L0oniX Jul 2015 #17

Now, that you got your "Yup" on ... care to comment on the numbers ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #81

Sure. moondust Jul 2015 #95

But you rec the posts about polls indicating that Bernie is surging? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #105

I don't remember doing that. moondust Jul 2015 #111

It does seem like a lot of anti Hillary stuff goes on here at DU....rightwingers do hate her. randys1 Jul 2015 #31

My Take on Hillary- dirtydickcheney Jul 2015 #20

She won't be encouraging a reinstatement of Glass-Steagall. L0oniX Jul 2015 #22

Doesn't matter if people "like" her.....they want to "vote for" her. brooklynite Jul 2015 #33

And the number if people wanting to vote for her are declining steadily. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #46

Actually no, I don't brooklynite Jul 2015 #55

Go ahead and have Clinton raise billions London Lover Man Jul 2015 #93

A year of Clinton polling="no imact"; a month of Sanders ="dynamic change". brooklynite Jul 2015 #97

You do know we can see your edits right? Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #23

+1. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #26

He was hoping otherwise, I'd imagine....!! MADem Jul 2015 #40

Right? zappaman Jul 2015 #49

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! JaneyVee Jul 2015 #28

Heh! ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #44

Not at all surprising, if places like POWERLINE tout them!!! MADem Jul 2015 #47

The top two polls are Reuters and YouGov K lib Jul 2015 #57

You do realize that Jesuits are some of the most intellectually rigorous people on this earth? MADem Jul 2015 #61

Look under GFK Group nt K lib Jul 2015 #66

GfK Group is NOT AP-GfK. GfK Group is the parent agency. MADem Jul 2015 #70

Perhaps I made a mistake K lib Jul 2015 #100

WAPO and Boston Globe used to be a lot better than they are, now. MADem Jul 2015 #118

From his link Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #67

Look upthread--GfK Group is NOT AP-GfK. MADem Jul 2015 #80

I would love this kind of freefall in my personal life. Dear Lord. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #62

AP/GfK polling is at the bottom of list for accuracy... riversedge Jul 2015 #63

Not sure how you win a general election starting with unfavorables that high. pa28 Jul 2015 #65

Fortunately, Bernie will be our nominee and is a true progressive whom we can all unite behind. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #91

I'm torn, because while I love feeling the Bern, and I will complain about Hillary here in our home, Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #69

7 points in 3 months doesn't seem like a freefall, Chemisse Jul 2015 #75

Wow. There is a lot of stupidity (or maybe just ignorance) in this thread. Dawgs Jul 2015 #77

Free fall? HassleCat Jul 2015 #79

Maybe? It's Bernie's time...it's gonna happen...count on it! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #89

It's time to try HassleCat Jul 2015 #92

Yes, it is VERY nice that people are beginning to wake up senz Jul 2015 #122

Hmm, she is feeling the Bern. Lunabell Jul 2015 #99

She's feelin the Bern alright. Hillary's doing her best to channel Bernie, but it doesn't come of as authentic. People can see right through her phony progressive schtick. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #108

+1 L0oniX Jul 2015 #142

Wishful thinking does not make it true. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2015 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author senz Jul 2015 #119

Nevermind, I see that it is in fact the same. Sorry, will delete my redundant comment. senz Jul 2015 #125

I think its simply the Bernie supporters skewing the numbers. DCBob Jul 2015 #123

He wasn't "left out." Read the link. senz Jul 2015 #127

So what were Bernie's numbers? DCBob Jul 2015 #131

Another thread I read just this morning said her fav. numbers had just jumped up FiveGoodMen Jul 2015 #124

This appears to be a garbage poll. DCBob Jul 2015 #132

Her biggest problem is that she's boring LittleBlue Jul 2015 #126

Send this to Frank Luntz... Mike Nelson Jul 2015 #129

This is a garbage poll.. DCBob Jul 2015 #133

HA! This vaunted pollster couldn't even BOTHER TO INCLUDE Bernie!!!! MADem Jul 2015 #136

Hoe did AP=GfK polling compare in 2012? thevoiceofreason Jul 2015 #141