2016 Postmortem

BrotherIvan

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54. I am very cynical about his chances

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:58 PM

Jul 2015

But it is up to the people now to resist all the propaganda and make up their own minds. The only reason he has a shot in hell is because he doesn't play the game.

I saw the video that's being passed around where he was pretty grouchy on the gun question in Virginia and I thought, that's going to play on the newsloop for a while. But to be honest, though I don't agree with him, I do respect that he didn't change his answer for the campaign. He's willing to defend himself and be open to other things, but he's not lying to act like it didn't happen. I hope people notice that at least he sticks to his convictions.

And what does his opponent do? Of course, becomes the greatest champion for gun control ever. That kind of low and smarmy stuff will eventually catch up I have no doubt. Whoever is running her reactionary campaign is as dumb as the chair I'm sitting on. The only person who can beat Hillary is Hillary and she's doing a fantastic job so far.

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This is not a democracy. This is oligarchy. [View all] Jefferson23 Jul 2015 OP

And if you can't do $50.... daleanime Jul 2015 #1

Yes, absolutely..give you can if not at all then perhaps volunteer to help in some way. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #2

I cannot do much but I started by giving $5 a month and then when I got one of my bills paid off jwirr Jul 2015 #5

That is a tremendous thing to do, in my opinion...kudos. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #9

It is WONDERFUL! SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #12

+1. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #14

I need to do this because I need to stop what is happening for my family and everyone else. I am jwirr Jul 2015 #13

I know....there is no other choice but to try. We're on our own, no doubt about that. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #15

Don't despair SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #28

Thank you. I had forgotten Robert said that. What Bernie is saying now will resonate long after jwirr Jul 2015 #38

There's a nice line from Roger Waters to the same effect. hifiguy Jul 2015 #44

NICE! n/t SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #73

Just the number of donors alone, for Bernie, presented in a commercial 6 months from now randys1 Jul 2015 #76

this country has fallen back to kings and serfs Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #3

If the serfs revolt it will yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #4

ROFL! n/t SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #10

cowabunga! yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #17

If the serfs revolt, SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #74

That needs to be a t-shirt and/or bumper sticker! geardaddy Jul 2015 #16

LOVE the button! n/t SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #30

Serf's up! geardaddy Jul 2015 #22

cowabunga dude! yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #23

Are you sure it's one hundred million dollars? That's way too high. YOHABLO Jul 2015 #6

114 million HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #7

Bush raises over $100 million to help his campaign Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #8

jeff, in the end just about every country is an oligarchy really. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #11

Then everyone needs to push back..look at Greece. Sitting back and letting them win without Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #19

YES. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #20

I feel for them and the situation is so intense..we must all pay close attention here. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #21

Yes we do. n/t SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #32

"We are watching the collapse of the EU." Maybe we are but then again many of the British cstanleytech Jul 2015 #36

Wont really work. Oh you might gain the illusion of winning but the fact in the end cstanleytech Jul 2015 #27

We have no alternative but to push back. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #34

100 percent agree. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #18

this is the line that struck me restorefreedom Jul 2015 #24

Well, I'm not a hair on fire kind of guy yet the longer this continues, the less meaningful gains we Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #25

This is our moment. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #33

Can he win..I think so but only if the American people say enough is enough..in a very deep way. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #40

"Reckless and impulsive"? Bernie's been fighting for us for 50 years. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #78

That is my point, he is not a radical..he worked within the system and it does not work. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #79

Bernie needs a labor PAC. Nothing wrong with playing their game as long as you dont play with randys1 Jul 2015 #26

Maybe he will change his mind, I don't know. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #29

I would think Buffett would align with Bernie in some ways randys1 Jul 2015 #31

Everything we know about Buffett's politics points in one direction. n/t SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #35

Buffet, if he felt Warren was too angry, he'd likely find Bernie even more so: Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #37

Buffett knows deep down Bernie is right, but no, he probably wont be able to admit it randys1 Jul 2015 #39

Maybe read more on Buffett BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #49

Sends a clear message, doesn't it? SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #41

I agree, and we shall see. So far the response has been encouraging, I feel. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #42

Preach it, Bernie! hifiguy Jul 2015 #43

Big K&R raouldukelives Jul 2015 #45

Yes, it is obscene and thank you for the kick. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #46

It is totally OBSCENE and it must be stopped or we can just give up on living in a sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #47

Yes and the return on their investment they're expecting will be even more indecent. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #48

It is despicable BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #50

They want him to join in because the fact that he is not part of this obscenity, highlights sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #51

They are building up one of the most sophisticated campaign BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #55

Yes, for them to try to claim to oppose CU was definitely a bad strategy. But then so far, ALL the sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #60

It could be that they are so insular and only hiring insiders BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #62

I'd like to know how that would work. Those making the investment expect a return Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #52

I am very cynical about his chances BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #54

I'm not sure it's cynical to be wary of his chances..it will be tough, at best. Impossible? No. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #58

I feel the same way BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #59

I should have been more clear, this is what I was referring to: Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #63

I definitely missed that one BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #65

That's extraordinary..I don't even know what to say. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #66

It will be interesting for sure BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #67

I agree with you...and what she is promising in return I don't know. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #68

Oh wow BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #69

How strong that disconnect is, time will tell. Interesting times, indeed. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #70

Have a good night and sleep in late BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #71

Thanks for the link..I will defintely check that out. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #72

They're not mincing words, that's for sure. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #77

Let his words resonate with a fine description of what that return on their investment looks like: Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #53

Out Government is totally bought and paid for. Do we need any more proof than we've had over sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #61

It tells a story, a horrible story and its consequences. That is what Sanders will do over and over Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #64

decades dpatbrown Jul 2015 #56

I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jul 2015 #57

Citigroup knew we had a Plutonomy on our hands 10 years ago and said exactly that... Agony Jul 2015 #75

It didn't happen by accident. azmom Jul 2015 #80