2016 Postmortem

Divernan

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30. Misty, water-colored memories. Winds of change have swept PA!

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:26 AM

Jul 2015

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2008 was a long time ago, babe and our old machine party apparatus has been dying a slow death ever since. Our fantastic new Dem. governor Tom Wolf told the Dem party establishment to stuff it and ran his own campaign without their input.

Tom Wolf will be Pennsylvania's next governor. The York County Democrat, a first-time candidate for elected office, made history by becoming the first challenger to unseat a sitting governor in four decades. - See more at: http://readingeagle.com/news/article/tom-wolf-wins-race-for-pennsylvania-governor#sthash.OXimgm8C.dpuf
And he pulled off an historic victory, i.e, the first time an incumbent governor (GOP Corbett) in Pennsylvania was not re-elected!

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Hillary Has The Money – Bernie Has The Credibility – History Not On Hillary’s Side [View all] RiverLover Jul 2015 OP

K&R..... daleanime Jul 2015 #1

43+ point lead. Obama at this same time was only 10 points behind. onehandle Jul 2015 #2

You confuse reality with certainty. zeemike Jul 2015 #13

The Reality is that if Hillary really cared about America's future, pocoloco Jul 2015 #25

make that your mantra.. frylock Jul 2015 #64

My guess is that Sanders may win in New Hampshire, and that's all. He'll be out of the race.... George II Jul 2015 #73

We the People WILL do this. 99Forever Jul 2015 #3

Obama actually raised more money than McCain. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #4

That's true, the author should have just stuck with the Romney example. RiverLover Jul 2015 #6

However, without his money, Romney NewJeffCT Jul 2015 #44

And Bernie actually has raised more money at this part of the campaign than Obama too! cascadiance Jul 2015 #78

The Elite are in for MORE Mitt Romeny Moments Demeter Jul 2015 #5

Will you be doing the hanging? LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #84

What are Jeb's chances? Darb Jul 2015 #7

Jeb's chances aren't good against any Democrat. RiverLover Jul 2015 #10

Although I would like to believe Jeb's chances are bad, it really is much too early to say that. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #11

It is rare when I disagree with you zeemike Jul 2015 #15

Those are some good points. Very good. /nt RiverLover Jul 2015 #20

Your assertion is belied by the data: DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #39

Well interesting but nothing definitive. zeemike Jul 2015 #63

Yeah! Why can't the majority of Democrats who support Clinton unify the Party... brooklynite Jul 2015 #56

In Pittsburgh, party hacks outspent opponent 10x in primary; LOST BIG TIME! Divernan Jul 2015 #8

Love this^^^ RiverLover Jul 2015 #12

Meanwhile Hillary, who won PA in 2008, is 45 points ahead. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #18

Misty, water-colored memories. Winds of change have swept PA! Divernan Jul 2015 #30

A dead horse could have beaten Corbett. onehandle Jul 2015 #33

He beat old-style Dems in the primary;Clinton in-law lost big time. Divernan Jul 2015 #42

Your article said that Margolies ran a lackluster campaign.... George II Jul 2015 #71

"Warren is on the verge of joining the Sanders campaign" is wishful thinking. winter is coming Jul 2015 #9

Indeed. Several people have posted in the past that Warren had endorsed Hillary for President. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #16

Dunno who that was. Warren did sign a letter urging Hillary to run. onehandle Jul 2015 #36

She hasn't formally endorsed Clinton, but she's said everything she could just short of it. George II Jul 2015 #72

Bernie Sanders will win marym625 Jul 2015 #14

Well first he has to win the Democratic Primary, against better known, better financed opponent(s)) PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #17

Yes, but with Bernie it isn't just empty rhetoric designed to win votes. Its his truth. RiverLover Jul 2015 #19

Great minds and all marym625 Jul 2015 #22

The difference between LWolf Jul 2015 #83

Yes, the rhetoric forced upon her marym625 Jul 2015 #21

LOL. Like minds RiverLover Jul 2015 #24

I prefer great marym625 Jul 2015 #26

This rhetoric Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #45

More talk of "huge crowds"....he's a novelty that people want to see, not necessarily vote for. George II Jul 2015 #23

Yeah, people often drive hundreds of miles, marym625 Jul 2015 #27

Not many did all that. George II Jul 2015 #34

2 words: Ron Paul. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #35

I have read that's the official Clinton response.(They also like to use Nadar as a spoiler example.) RiverLover Jul 2015 #38

I don't know anything about "official Clinton response" Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #41

Every time a primary candidate Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #47

Cool story! Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #49

I am trying to point out facts Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #57

Well, your facts were incorrect. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #60

hillary's support of fracking is one of the things my questionseverything Jul 2015 #81

Very well put... George II Jul 2015 #50

...or posting loyalty oaths. frylock Jul 2015 #66

Where have you "read that"? George II Jul 2015 #46

... RiverLover Jul 2015 #52

Neither of those articles mentions Nader, and only the second one mentions Ron Paul, almost... George II Jul 2015 #58

You need to read better. RiverLover Jul 2015 #61

True, I didn't read the article (not interested, to be honest), I used "FIND" in Chrome..... George II Jul 2015 #62

Ron Paul's largest crowd was 8500 at UCLA.. frylock Jul 2015 #65

He still DOMINATED social media a few years ago. n/t Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #68

You so funny! Divernan Jul 2015 #31

~ L0oniX Jul 2015 #43

That's one thing you can't buy. Trustability. Bonobo Jul 2015 #28

I disagree with the premise that Clinton does not have credibiity. Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #29

Exactly. Its a 'Not Hillary' piece. Nothing more. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #32

It's as if repeating "Bernie Will Win" over and over redstateblues Jul 2015 #37

Well DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #40

I'd say from history overconfidence is a problem in the Clinton camp davidpdx Jul 2015 #53

based solely on opinion, as well as enthusiastic crowds at campaign events.. frylock Jul 2015 #67

Hillary is very creditible, in fact the same positions Bernie is taking are the same as Hillary. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #55

When Hilary ran for the nomination last time and lost to Obama.... olegramps Jul 2015 #59

Then why does she poll so poorly on trust? (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #70

because she has been attacked endlessly for a decade by RW Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #82

Not just money HassleCat Jul 2015 #48

Nixon wasn't especially likeable and he owns the largest pop vote/Electoral College landslide in... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #51

Sorry HassleCat Jul 2015 #54

Never say never! But they do underestimate the anger of the American people, Bernie did not sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #69

I also think that mainstream everybody is really underestimating the anger out here. I may Nay Jul 2015 #74

I think we are right. I think the reason for Bernie's growing support is sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #75

But can he harness that anger and prevent other Democratic primary opponents PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #79

They won't be able to harness that anger because no other opponent has Bernie's Nay Jul 2015 #80

and Martin O'Malley has the experience. elleng Jul 2015 #76

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Jul 2015 #77