2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

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80. Most of my friends are more savvy politically and understand the three branches and loved Obama

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 11:55 PM

Dec 2016

a few younger people i know knew nothing about th system, were more disappointed in Obama and has their heads filled with the "both parties the same" nonsense.
Only a few older white guys would say such a thing. And I'd tell them well for you- quite possibly since your not brown, female or poor. Shut them up good.

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A few observations on "progressives" I've noticed from this election [View all] Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 OP

We're about to enter a new, never before seen era of American politics. jalan48 Dec 2016 #1

I didn't mean to scapegoat progressives but the people I refer to here are a problem for Dems Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #3

We are in for a battle. The Progressives I know were active in marching for civil rights in the 60's jalan48 Dec 2016 #5

You are not conscious that you are scapegoating? Take a closer look at this patently scapegoating JudyM Dec 2016 #9

fair enough-- but I meant they are not the main reason we lost Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #10

The purpose of your post... to diss liberals. dionysus Dec 2016 #82

no no no, not at all! I'm a liberal! I'm trying to figure out what we can about liberals Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #85

You're doing a great job of discouraging us, if that's your objective. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #26

Those people, and Bernie, kept declaring that they were starting a movement brush Dec 2016 #28

and what... berksdem Dec 2016 #36

Not an answer. Where is the movement? brush Dec 2016 #39

and that... berksdem Dec 2016 #42

Not complicated, where is the movement Sanders and his supporters were supposed to . . . brush Dec 2016 #44

where was Clinton during the campaign in PA and Michigan? berksdem Dec 2016 #45

Ok, you keep not answering a question with vague anti-dem, pro-Bernie statements brush Dec 2016 #46

How.... berksdem Dec 2016 #50

If you have no info on the question about the nascent movement . . . brush Dec 2016 #51

LOL... berksdem Dec 2016 #54

It was nascent when it was being discussed. Apparently it has gone belly up . . . brush Dec 2016 #56

i answered it berksdem Dec 2016 #57

You did, huh? Clarity in writing issues? brush Dec 2016 #58

"Our Revolution" is the birth of the movement. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #73

The nascent anti-librral dems are.. basking in this election loss, it seems... dionysus Dec 2016 #83

Here: TCJ70 Dec 2016 #61

They had the "movement" @ 7am... Historic NY Dec 2016 #49

Woo them in if they have the right values. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #63

"I didn't mean to scapegoat progressives" Raster Dec 2016 #70

Most of what they support is good. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #75

+ 1000 LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #77

Your "observations" seem really different from mine unc70 Dec 2016 #2

Sorry, I wasn't trying to say this was the case for all progressives Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #4

blah blah blah blah ...it's posts like this that turned many off to hillary bowens43 Dec 2016 #6

Just for the record oberliner Dec 2016 #7

I know two Bernie dudes who voted for trump La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #12

I know several Bernie men and women who voted for Hillary... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #15

I'm one... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #21

My reasoning as well. I did it, but with no joy. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #41

perfectly stated... could not agree more. berksdem Dec 2016 #43

Right, my point is these Bernie to trump voters do exist La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #23

I know several Democrats who voted for Trump, they could not stand to vote for Hillary Nictuku Dec 2016 #29

I have no intention of jumping down anyones throat... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #48

one additional spot for worst: the guy who lost to the woman who lost to the guy who won. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #24

bingo! +1 berksdem Dec 2016 #38

I just watched Sarah Silverman interviewing Bernie Sanders about the election. betsuni Dec 2016 #8

To Bernie, if you're fighting for social causes, you're not a serious liberal. kcr Dec 2016 #11

It's what he said about abortion on Maddow La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #13

Yep. I think his behavior since the election has really shown his true colors. kcr Dec 2016 #14

Thank you. nt cwydro Dec 2016 #17

You apparently managed to completely misunderstand the point he was making. Kentonio Dec 2016 #16

Oh, don't get me started on his speaking at Liberty University kcr Dec 2016 #18

Actually he doesn't think any of those things, but apparently simplistic thinking is popular now. Kentonio Dec 2016 #19

HUH? They are the enemy if they want to take away women's rights, because they disagree with us. Justice Dec 2016 #64

No, they are not the enemy. Kentonio Dec 2016 #65

Like I said. His point is wrong. kcr Dec 2016 #69

What is most likely to make a woman forced to make babies? Kentonio Dec 2016 #84

at least he was trying to berksdem Dec 2016 #40

Stop twisting Bernie's words. He clearly never said that realmirage Dec 2016 #22

Only his supporters are able to infer and translate accurately what he meant. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #25

He says it all the time. Some just don't pay attention. kcr Dec 2016 #68

huh? berksdem Dec 2016 #33

Totally agree Justice Dec 2016 #59

This is an excellent OP and discussion. Best one on this. Justice Dec 2016 #60

In real life, the BoBs are a tiny minority of Dems. duffyduff Dec 2016 #20

What evidence is there? HassleCat Dec 2016 #27

there is none... berksdem Dec 2016 #32

do you honestly think he doesn't feel that way? He's certainly hinted at it. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #37

If you think Bernie is happy with Trump being elected, then you obviously don't know who Bernie is. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #62

For many people, Bernie is just the guy who ruined things for Hillary. HassleCat Dec 2016 #66

sorry but talk... berksdem Dec 2016 #30

I'm not talking about all progressives, just a group that I know on Facebook who call themselves Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #35

gotcha and thanks for clarifying... berksdem Dec 2016 #47

Yes, thanks. I should also say I have called myself a progressive (though not so much lately) Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #53

And they might as well MFM008 Dec 2016 #31

that is my frustration, yes. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #34

Started reading this thread True Dough Dec 2016 #52

sorry-- but I'm trying to figure out how to reach these people that should be voting with us Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #55

Most Democrats voted for her. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #67

But there is no "do over" True Dough Dec 2016 #71

Is there something WRONG with being anti-imperialist and anti-war? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #72

When one of our allies need our help which requires some sort of military aid what do we do? JHan Dec 2016 #78

Why shouldn't we be anti "big banks"? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #74

Interrestingly enough, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #76

Now you expect us to be against progressives? Really??? SAD!!!!!!! JoeOtterbein Dec 2016 #79

Not my point at all... my point was she the Dem nominee, and still many progressives Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #86

Most of my friends are more savvy politically and understand the three branches and loved Obama bettyellen Dec 2016 #80

Not the best hippie-punching ive seen... keep practising. dionysus Dec 2016 #81