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2016 Postmortem

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ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 04:53 PM Dec 2016

Trump will no longer be useful to the GOP come Jan. 21st!! [View all]

They rode with him (and Putin and Comey) back to power in the White House, but I truly expect a drive towards impeachment to begin within months. Trump is a loose cannon that is far too unpredictable, and likely to declare war on the GOP establishment at the drop of a hat. I think the establishment man - President Pence - will likely serve a longer stretch in this term than Trump.

Trump has probably already provided them with a whole host of impeachable acts to choose from - whether it be his collusion (and communication) with the Russian hacking scheme, or one of multiple violations of the emoluments clause.

Seriously, why stick with Trump when he is so unpredictable, unpopular, and untested? He's going to suck, and they know it. The right wing that supported him isn't going anywhere - it's not like they're going to switch to supporting liberal Democrats any time soon.

And not all Republicans on capitol hill are really anxious to take their marching orders from Russia.

Yes, as he is a right-wing homophobe, anti-abortion rights fanatic, who counts Dick Cheney as a mentor - Pence will be bad. But he does know government, he won't be led by Putin, and he's not likely to launch nuclear weapons.

My bet is that Paul Ryan can't wait to get rid of the loudmouthed orange monster (Priebus or no Priebus) at his earliest convenience!

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They'll stick with Trump because he is more popular with their base than any other Republican. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #1
If they commence it early enough... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #5
I'd agree if Trump was a generic Republican. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #8
This, they can't afford to alienate his deplorables Amishman Dec 2016 #12
They'll absorb, they'll aborb ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #26
They will be assimilated..... lastlib Dec 2016 #53
The risks of reading too fast. 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #67
(they probably will be if they're not assimilated.......) lastlib Dec 2016 #70
Is Sharon Angell available... 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #80
She may be, um, lining people up as we 'speak'........... lastlib Dec 2016 #81
I tell you one thing, the OP assassinated common sense... dionysus Dec 2016 #94
They'll just have to get over it... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #13
Well it probably isn't going to happen. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #14
I see what your saying, Ace, but i think you're giving the GOP ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #17
They'll threaten to impeach behind closed doors... Blanks Dec 2016 #20
That may be more likely... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #24
That's what I expect... Blanks Dec 2016 #25
Good point. Many of those hearings are not going to go smoothly. nt ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #27
The thing to keep in mind... Blanks Dec 2016 #34
Another excellent point, Blanks ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #37
Him, or Tom Cotton... Blanks Dec 2016 #74
Tom Cotton! You're right, Blanks! But... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #89
or more time with his money...... lastlib Dec 2016 #71
More time inappropriately grabbing women... Blanks Dec 2016 #75
If he does a few things to shake the supporters. Chemisse Dec 2016 #102
Agreed. Republicans make a mistake if they underestimate... Garrett78 Jan 2017 #112
He's the most popular person in the party. Ace Rothstein Jan 2017 #113
Wow! Good luck with THAT search!! ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #114
Pence would be POTUS and would run in 2020. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #115
I think they will wait until after the midterm election before they Dump Trump. lastlib Dec 2016 #59
They will stick with Trump long enough to get him to sign Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #60
Yep. They're stuck w/ their orange Frankenstein True_Blue Dec 2016 #96
prez pence, VP Ryan nt msongs Dec 2016 #2
Ryan has more power in the House as Speaker than he would have as VP. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #4
There are a lot of Republican voters that don't like Trump, though they voted for him... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #10
OMG, I sincerely hope and meditate and pray and prostate before you that you are correct.. pbmus Dec 2016 #3
President Pence... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #7
Drumpf is really a liability - and Ryan would probably love to orchestrate it ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #11
i agree comple... uh,... wait. prostate? unblock Dec 2016 #38
Prostate myself at your feet...LOL pbmus Dec 2016 #41
uh, no, please... unblock Dec 2016 #43
He's got them over a barrel. That's his M. O. underpants Dec 2016 #6
Pence may be authoritarian enough... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #9
I would love to see a war in the Repub party if Congress/Pence go after Trump. LonePirate Dec 2016 #15
The Senate Convicts bpj62 Dec 2016 #16
Oh, I think any Dem Senator would ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #18
If they try to impeach him, Trump would put the 82nd Airborne around the White House... First Speaker Dec 2016 #19
i'm getting tired of the outlandish scenarios. republicans won't impeach a republican unblock Dec 2016 #21
Hello! They'd be replacing him with an ESTABLISHMENT Republican they know much better! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #23
Then why didn't they use the Electoral College to get rid of him? It would have been so rzemanfl Dec 2016 #28
They hadn't assumed the White House yet ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #29
Not a chance in hell of that and they knew it. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #31
the situation in nixon's case was very different unblock Dec 2016 #30
How about if the CIA ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #33
A lot of Republicans don't like Trump ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #22
Drumpf will only be impeached... davekriss Dec 2016 #32
Or if he gets into a huge spat with GOP leadership - ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #35
All they want from him is to sign whatever legislation Ryan sends him Shrek Dec 2016 #36
But he WILL rock the boat! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #39
righhhhtttt.... Locrian Dec 2016 #40
The wouldn't be doing it individually as candidates this time. ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #42
I think they will take a wait and see approach Txbluedog Dec 2016 #44
Sounds like their kind of game plan alright ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #49
If this actually turns out to be the case? kcr Dec 2016 #45
They may well never recover from a full Trump term... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #46
He's turned out to be a very reliably doctrinaire rightwinger in the mold of Paul Ryan & Koch Bros geek tragedy Dec 2016 #47
Thus far - in the transition ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #51
This strikes me as wishful thinking. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #55
That base will buy whatever Fox News, ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #68
Once Republicans seize power - they never consult the people!! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #88
true; so far he's been a far right-wingers dream. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #91
Granted, predictably evil is better than bat shit crazy.... paleotn Dec 2016 #48
If they do it early enough... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #50
No one likes to be primaried translates... 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #79
Precisely! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #82
ISIL will bomb us before the year is out Kolesar Dec 2016 #52
Exacly why they'll have ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #54
Before 2016 or 2017? Doubt Obama's administration would allow 2016. ffr Dec 2016 #56
No, 2017 ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #57
No way. He's just a puppet, a rubber stamp. However. MadamPresident Dec 2016 #58
He's Putin's puppet - just as Hillary said - not the GOP's! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #106
He is useful because he is disposable. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #61
They've got all that footage of him previously singing Hilliary's praises ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #65
And not a criminal act. There is zero chance of them dumping trump after he did what dionysus Dec 2016 #95
I agree. A loose cannon for the GOP, and they will get rid of him. mackdaddy Dec 2016 #62
Good point. Nor would I. ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #64
And another fantasy to replace all the previous fantasies onenote Dec 2016 #63
Well...whatever gets you through the night... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #66
Actually, I'd rather be kept up at night by reality than sleep like a baby because I believe that onenote Dec 2016 #83
GOP leaders are not going to put up with this for long: ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #87
If it gets you through the night, keep telling yourself that. onenote Dec 2016 #92
"IF" the GOP wants to get rid of him, they'll just tell their man, Comey to drop a dime on him world wide wally Dec 2016 #69
Comey has proven himself ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #72
Impeaching Trump would require the 'thugs to admit error. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #73
tRump will make some blunders so huuuge ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #77
Don't kid yourself. Now that he's in, Trump is a dream come true for most of them mtnsnake Dec 2016 #76
I agree with you - but the Russia connection ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #78
He'll be a smokescreen Retrograde Dec 2016 #84
From their perspective - that's what he should be. But he's... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #86
Trump will be useful to distract the idiot horde by the .1%'ers Vinnie From Indy Dec 2016 #85
but he'll sure be useful to Putin; repugs will never impeach him because they hate dems more than th TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #90
This is the most ridiculous thing i've heard since the claim we didn't lose the election. dionysus Dec 2016 #93
Funny - because the MOST RIDICULOUS THING I EVER HEARD... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #97
They hacked emails and released propaganda, they were not dionysus Dec 2016 #99
Dead Wrong. ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #104
If they impeach him before jan 20... Joe941 Dec 2016 #98
One thing that was clear: Rinse Previous could not control Trump. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #100
This is EXACTLY what I have been thinking about. Chemisse Dec 2016 #101
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #103
I don't know about that.. he's their front idiot they Cha Dec 2016 #105
Would the House actually impeach him? Would they get any democrats? madinmaryland Dec 2016 #107
Anything they can get done with loose cannon tRump... ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #108
I don't know about that. There are a lot of looney toons in Congress, and if *Rump is fucking madinmaryland Dec 2016 #109
Dems will take Pence over the orangutan emperor! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2016 #110
After THAT press conference... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #111
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