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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: A word of advice about controlling the Democratic Party message [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)10. That is not an accurate gauge of whether a message can resonate with people. Just running and tyring
to fund a campaign as an individual without party apparatus behind you, is not likely to get you very far, although granted, you could break through the constraints, but if the DNC knows what kinds of candidates it wants, and what kinds of messaging it prefers, yours may not be it.
You might say, "If your message is so hot, you shouldn't have problem getting funding," but that isn't reflective of reality. People like messages all the time but don't put their money or time behind them, because they see them as lost causes. In a system where two parties have essentially locked it up, outsiders only operate as spoilers anyway, which comes with a whole other can of shit that helps to marginalize them.
We do, as a collective, have to decide what we want out of our party leaders and to let them know. Your own perspective I believe, is that we already have the party you want. That's fine. But this is DU after all, and the Democratic party is sort of centered prominently, and for the most part we are liberals and/or Democrats on these boards. I think it makes sense to attempt to communicate ideas with people who care about politics, and have at least some politics in common.
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"Clearly you don't sit down with those you disagree with." Are you referencing the poster?
Eleanors38
Dec 2016
#9
Unfortunately some want to control the Democratic Party message from the outside.
George II
Dec 2016
#7
That is not an accurate gauge of whether a message can resonate with people. Just running and tyring
JCanete
Dec 2016
#10
Winning with our current party is fan-fiction that our leaders keep regurgitating and fawning over.
JCanete
Dec 2016
#23
How can you disagree with my analysis and then say if your campaign resonates, donors will
JCanete
Dec 2016
#21
So, the premise I was responding to was basically "if your ideas are so hot prove it
JCanete
Dec 2016
#40
sad and wrong... your words are the things I was saying were reinforcing my argument. Not that I
JCanete
Dec 2016
#46
now you're basically saying that in the "real world" donors don't give a shit about policy, just
JCanete
Dec 2016
#55
Where I agree with you is that refighting the primary is pointless, and that energy spent
JCanete
Dec 2016
#27
That recurring theme about rhetoric versus policy--excuse me for being cute--is rhetoric.
JCanete
Dec 2016
#41
but that is nothing compared to the megaphone that went out over the corporate media from
JCanete
Dec 2016
#47
okay, I see, you're not responding to what I'm posting, just to a preconceived notion you already
JCanete
Dec 2016
#54
Except that I didn't say populist rhetoric was good just cuz it feels good to hear it.
JCanete
Dec 2016
#48
Well that's not exactly fair. He's a Presidential Candidate. He could have said "this is the only
JCanete
Dec 2016
#50
Another way is for everyone to call their Democratic congressmen, lots of them, and OFTEN
mtnsnake
Dec 2016
#20
Do you honestly think that tons of people here are going to follow your advice
mtnsnake
Dec 2016
#30
I would encourage those that aren't the type to run to still get involved and proactively seek good
think
Dec 2016
#25
A grad student I talked with today told me my generation was at fault.
redstatebluegirl
Dec 2016
#29