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2016 Postmortem

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sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:08 PM Dec 2016

BREAKING: Bernie Sanders Lost [View all]

Bernie Sanders lost the primary. A democratic election where both you and I voted. Guess what: I even voted for him. Not because I thought he would be a better president, but because I thought he did, in fact, have a better chance of winning the election. Would he have won? Who knows. There’s no way to say what may or may not have happened. He may have gotten more whites, but less minorities. You don’t have a crystal ball to declare he would have won. That’s nonsense.

But here’s a breaking story for you: he lost. In a landslide. Over 3.5 million votes, by a margin of 12%. That’s how the Democratic Party which you purport to support decides it’s nominees: democratic process. He failed to convince voters, and you failed to bring enough people over to his side.

And instead of gracefully conceding when it was apparent that he had no path to victory, he continued to weigh on Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the presidency like a rusty anchor. Some of his supporters continued to do the same, ambushing her, spreading RW conspiracy theories and memes. Bashing her character, with nonsense. Declaring she was not liberal enough when she was running on the most liberal platform in history. And then, not voting.




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BREAKING: Bernie Sanders Lost [View all] sheshe2 Dec 2016 OP
Yeah, and the primaries are over; so what's the point? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #1
Have you been reading postmortem and the Hillary threads??? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #2
Right? mcar Dec 2016 #7
Hey mcar! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #20
Hey she! mcar Dec 2016 #21
You a good bud! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #27
Seems obvious. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #119
Hillary lost. sfwriter Dec 2016 #175
No, I haven't, and I see no reason to rehash all this. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #16
"Democratic Party leaders have been living in a bubble"? Let's see now.... George II Dec 2016 #34
I understand where you're coming from ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #99
Post of the Month!! Ligyron Dec 2016 #148
Oh yes! brer cat Dec 2016 #200
"Democrats lose elections because they are honest." mcar Dec 2016 #233
Errors by the candidate... what errors? Didn't you get the memo? Hillary ran a perfect campaign. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #120
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haha... yes! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #157
For the record, the post above was deleted in error EarlG Dec 2016 #208
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I appreciate your understanding EarlG Dec 2016 #219
This circular firing sqad the Dems are in does nothing... RiverStone Dec 2016 #124
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We must unify against that Orange Orangutan and ensure he fails in securing his racist agenda. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #158
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This is an insult to Orangutans!! BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #170
You got me there... my apologies to orangutans! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #212
Check out the 2016 Postmortem Forum, there are scads of "points" there. George II Dec 2016 #26
Thank you George II sheshe2 Dec 2016 #30
You like to cause trouble? sellitman Dec 2016 #3
This is an open forum. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #36
When someone decries it when people even question Hillary & *same day* posts truly incendiary, JudyM Dec 2016 #83
why yes it is, and that does not change the fact you seem to like causing trouble krawhitham Dec 2016 #90
Hillary Clinton LOST kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #4
Well she did not lose by 3.5 million. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #11
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Still he lost. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #46
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Lost by 3.5 million sheshe2 Dec 2016 #56
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The popular vote kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #42
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Yeah, we know. Cha Dec 2016 #75
All too well... why Bernie had the superior strategy and would have trounced tRump! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #159
... mcar Dec 2016 #234
But she did lose to the most unqualified presidential candidate in US history krawhitham Dec 2016 #92
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You know what says a lot if you'd paid attention? Hillary had gop Voter Suppression, Cha Dec 2016 #196
But HE did lose to the most qualified presidential candidate in US history. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #202
You mean the won who lost ? kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #231
Cripes TubbersUK Dec 2016 #5
I'll echo that. progressoid Dec 2016 #38
Triple. pangaia Dec 2016 #182
Breaking: Does it kill you that he is the only candidate to come out of the election "not dirty"? zonkers Dec 2016 #6
Where are his tax returns that he promised? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #10
As a white man, he can act pure WhiteTara Dec 2016 #22
I almost spit my wine on my computer. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #24
Now I understand why she was not qualified. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #39
No indeed. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #84
Bathroom humor can't distract from the fact she and Deb "dirtily" screwed him over good. zonkers Dec 2016 #152
Don't let the facts get in the way of bashing Bernie to fabricate fake excuses. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #160
Bernie was never vetted and the GOP had a whole book to throw at him had he won. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #104
Yet despite all the vetting HRC had, she still failed to win the White House Larkspur Dec 2016 #193
Yet despite all the vetting HRC had, she still failed to win the White House. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #199
If the nation is so racist, Barack Obama would NEVER have been President of the United Stataes Larkspur Dec 2016 #205
Nope because of, oddly enough BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #211
Mango Mussolini! mcar Dec 2016 #235
A majority of swing state voters thought she was Nevernose Dec 2016 #105
With a post like this I find it hard to believe that you ever supported Bernie. NWCorona Dec 2016 #117
Let's focus on the facist-elect's missing tax returns! RiverStone Dec 2016 #154
I think that's the real issue for some here. They just can't get past the fact that NWCorona Dec 2016 #115
Yes! The Democratic Party platform was so important !!! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #8
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Nice, and welcome to DU! (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #15
They gone. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #18
*Is they*? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #187
You're cheering for Name Removed? R B Garr Dec 2016 #218
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I am positive you corrected the people posting all the anti Hillary posts. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #17
Thankfully, Bernie is still in the Senate fighting for us as part of the Democratic leadership. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #14
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Book tour. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #59
Yeah. Can't really see her traveling to Africa... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #63
You sound as petty as Trump saying Hillary is home taking a nap. R B Garr Dec 2016 #210
Wow. What the hell do you think the Clinton Foundation has been doing all these years? bettyellen Dec 2016 #230
Perhaps the millions she has poured into her foundation La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #215
I thought he was on a book tour. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #41
Yes! The firey progessive will be in the senate fighting for the $10 minimum wage lapucelle Dec 2016 #55
Trump suggested $10; Bernie wants $15. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #106
On his book tour, Sanders told the Christian Science Monitor that he would work with Republicans lapucelle Dec 2016 #213
OMG, he doesn't have a magic wand!11!!!111 SMC22307 Dec 2016 #221
Sorry darlin', but I ain't buying what either you or the fiery progressive are selling. lapucelle Dec 2016 #227
2017. 32 states. All-time high for Republican control. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #232
Bernie will leave on his own terms. NWCorona Dec 2016 #122
The Clinton foundation does a lot of work helping La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #181
Aren't we supposed to refrain? HassleCat Dec 2016 #23
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SOP: "discuss why we lost in 2016 and what we need to do in the future." ucrdem Dec 2016 #37
Some replies show that not all the bad feelings have been forgotten. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #43
My dear friend ucrdem!!!! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #44
heya sheshe!! ucrdem Dec 2016 #47
She reached out with both hands. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #65
K & R :D JHan Dec 2016 #25
Well then, he and Hillary have a lot in common, don't they? TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #29
Yeah well that helps a lot Va Lefty Dec 2016 #31
America lost putitinD Dec 2016 #32
K&R brer cat Dec 2016 #33
Seriously, get over it. LS_Editor Dec 2016 #35
Oh yes, he did, she. That's on him.. his message didn't resonate with Cha Dec 2016 #40
Thank you Cha! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #53
Love you back. Cha Dec 2016 #73
Yes to all you said. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #78
In 1976 Ford defeated Reagan by 53%-46%. Ford lost to Carter. LostOne4Ever Dec 2016 #45
and the circular Me Me firing squad continues elmac Dec 2016 #49
Yawn. progressoid Dec 2016 #50
I'll be glad when you guys get this out of your system. MelissaB Dec 2016 #52
Us.... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #62
I don't know what that means... "us"???? MelissaB Dec 2016 #79
Bwahahahahahahahhaha sheshe2 Dec 2016 #80
Yep! MelissaB Dec 2016 #85
I read, read....over and over and over. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #89
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #54
Remind me again of just how early Clinton conceded PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #57
You don't remember? Reminder: She conceded on June 7 in 2008, she didn't wait until.... George II Dec 2016 #155
DU rec...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #58
Thank you Sid! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #60
**sigh** chwaliszewski Dec 2016 #61
Breaking. Hillary lost also. And it wasn't Bearnie's fault. Travis_0004 Dec 2016 #64
She won the popular vote by 2.5 mil sheshe2 Dec 2016 #67
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I only want Democrats in our primaries. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #74
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Open primaries are open to all. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #165
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Clinton won a majority of the open primaries. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #183
Right.. he only threw evey ugly thing he could at her in the primaries.. demonizing Cha Dec 2016 #87
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He only threw evey ugly thing he could at her in the primaries.. demonizing her Cha Dec 2016 #91
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Yeah, I passed right over your lame attempt to deflect. Cha Dec 2016 #97
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The biggest non answer ever! NWCorona Dec 2016 #127
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Some so want to make it seem like Bernie threw the kitchen sink at her but he was so reserved. NWCorona Dec 2016 #142
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yeah, he deflected poorly. Cha Dec 2016 #135
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In a healthy democracy, competition makes us stronger RiverStone Dec 2016 #146
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This is becoming childish... n/t tom_kelly Dec 2016 #66
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K & R SunSeeker Dec 2016 #69
Not in the polls. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #72
Kicked and recommended. WheelWalker Dec 2016 #76
when he lost he supported her DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #77
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K sheshe2 Dec 2016 #86
Yup! Probably because Bernie is able to fight on another day. NWCorona Dec 2016 #131
Unfortunately the demonizing was too drilled into too many of his fans' heads.. I saw Cha Dec 2016 #96
Lost because the fix was in, read some DNC emails krawhitham Dec 2016 #95
Lost because his message didn't resonate with the voters. this is all on him. Cha Dec 2016 #98
Boom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #100
lol ... now they're trying in vain to blame it on the DNC.. big bad DNC Cha Dec 2016 #109
You obviously didn't read the DNCleaks. Why did DWS step down again. NWCorona Dec 2016 #134
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Link? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #107
OH there's that gd word "establishment" again.. that got us trump in the WH.. I Cha Dec 2016 #113
Excellent Cha! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #125
BS lost in a landslide.. Hillary had 3.5 Million more votes than he did. Cha Dec 2016 #108
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No, this is all on BS.. he lost fair and square.. his message did not resonate with enough voters Cha Dec 2016 #111
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Bernies Press Secretary To Supporters: We Lost Fair & Square, ZERO Election Fraud Cha Dec 2016 #116
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Bernies Press Secretary To Supporters: We Lost Fair & Square, ZERO Election Fraud Cha Dec 2016 #118
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... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #129
Symone D. Sanders Tweet.. I'm gonna take her word for it over his disgruntled fans.. Cha Dec 2016 #132
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Some, more than others. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #138
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Clinton won more open primaries than Sanders did. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #136
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Nothing suppresses votes as much as a caucus does. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #190
How did states limit and suppress the vote? George II Dec 2016 #156
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That's not true. In a number of states Democrats and independents were able to vote. In fact.... George II Dec 2016 #172
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She won Democrats 64-35 TwilightZone Dec 2016 #130
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Clinton won a majority of the open primaries. And you really ought to read this: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #185
So, using your reasoning. progressoid Dec 2016 #174
No, she lost bc BS demonized her for a over a year and trump picked up Cha Dec 2016 #178
BS demonized her? progressoid Dec 2016 #184
KnR Hekate Dec 2016 #102
Yep portlander23 Dec 2016 #151
what a fracking shit storm a post like this can start. Nuts and Bolts about why juxtaposed Dec 2016 #153
Good post. Thanks. hueymahl Dec 2016 #162
So helpful! Thanks! Way to bring us all together in this difficult time!!!! ALBliberal Dec 2016 #164
if this were submitted in a college freshman English class NJCher Dec 2016 #168
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I'm so not in the mood to fight this out. RandySF Dec 2016 #176
Garbage content like this... Old Crow Dec 2016 #177
There, there now. Just take an aspirin pangaia Dec 2016 #179
And, let us remember, she.. that in 2008 Hillary gracioulsy conceded to Obama Cha Dec 2016 #180
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #186
Bullfeathers.. Hillary happens to care very much about our Country. That wasn't even Cha Dec 2016 #188
LOL SMC22307 Dec 2016 #189
Wow, you really do just make things up. This is the type of out-of-touch R B Garr Dec 2016 #220
Say "Hillary haters" one more time. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #222
When you have to resort to obvious fabrications to justify irrational and uninformed R B Garr Dec 2016 #223
Obama held all the cards. joshcryer Dec 2016 #226
HRC strung out the 2008 primary long after it was mathematically improbable for her to win it Larkspur Dec 2016 #192
Hillary was classy in June 2008.. Much classier than BS' in July 2016 Cha Dec 2016 #194
No she was not classy. Larkspur Dec 2016 #206
Yes she was. Cha Dec 2016 #207
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Hillary cannot fail; she can only be failed by others. Larkspur Dec 2016 #191
Exactly. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #195
Kos's Nephalim nailed it.... said what needed to be said. Thanks for posting this. lamp_shade Dec 2016 #197
What percentage of Hillary's loss is Bernie's fault... chwaliszewski Dec 2016 #198
And thanks to Bernie losing, we have President Donald J Trump as President. jfern Dec 2016 #201
Democratic party Members only from now on.......thanks. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #203
Bernie folks, Bill Clinton and a lot of Progressives weighed in on how to win harun Dec 2016 #204
If you think we could have won an appeal to "white working class" Adrahil Dec 2016 #224
Exactly. And many voters don't feel the economy is working for them. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #225
I hope this made you feel better. sfwriter Dec 2016 #209
Sanders lost by over 3 million votes Gothmog Dec 2016 #214
Your mad lastone Dec 2016 #228
Yeah, this is productive. Barack_America Dec 2016 #229
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