2016 Postmortem

TuslaUltra

(75 posts) Thu Dec 1, 2016, 10:46 PM Dec 2016

ADL has 'serious concerns' whether Ellison can lead DNC [View all]

Interesting article from Politico:

[The] ADL, in a statement from CEO Jonathan Greenblatt, points to Ellison saying in a 2010 speech in reference to Israel that "The United States foreign policy in the Middle East is governed by what is good or bad through a country of 7 million people. A region of 350 million all turns on a country of 7 million. Does that make sense? Is that logic? Right? When the Americans who trace their roots back to those 350 million get involved, everything changes."

"New information recently has come to light that raises serious concerns about whether Rep. Ellison faithfully could represent the Democratic Party’s traditional support for a strong and secure Israel," Greenblatt said in a statement.

Greenblatt went on to say that "Rep. Ellison’s remarks are both deeply disturbing and disqualifying."

I thought for a while it was just a smear campaign against Ellison, but if the ADL, a great anti-racism organization is against this guy, its kind of hard to make him DNC chair if we've attacked Bannon, right? And no, one team having anti-Semites at the top doesn't make it right for another team to.

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ADL has 'serious concerns' whether Ellison can lead DNC [View all] TuslaUltra Dec 2016 OP

Ellison made the unforgiveable mistake of telling an inconvenient truth. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #1

Yep. Sometimes discretion WhiteTara Dec 2016 #2

And remember where the bribes come from. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #3

Yes. I left out WhiteTara Dec 2016 #11

To clarify mythology Dec 2016 #26

Yes - that's exactly what he leftynyc Dec 2016 #33

Yes - Heaven forbid leftynyc Dec 2016 #32

Actually the main topic is people trying to attack Ellsion for daring guillaumeb Dec 2016 #53

No - the topic is the ADL leftynyc Dec 2016 #56

Does the ADL attack the State of Israel for its treatment of Israeli Arabs, Christians, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #58

It's an AMERICAN organization leftynyc Dec 2016 #60

I already mentioned a few of the numerous countries that are massive human rights violators. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #67

That's not ALL they're objecting to leftynyc Dec 2016 #69

When they attempt to influence US policy and frame what is considered acceptable thought guillaumeb Dec 2016 #71

Spare me the selective outrage leftynyc Dec 2016 #73

As are yours. They are obvious from your posts. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #75

Yawn leftynyc Dec 2016 #77

You stand with some Americans. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #78

I stand with the MAJORITY leftynyc Dec 2016 #79

Must be incredible to "know" what a movie is about so you can dismiss it without guillaumeb Dec 2016 #82

Why, thank you leftynyc Dec 2016 #84

And you. And remember that Trump only has 49 months left in his reign. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #85

Which "truth" would that be? grossproffit Dec 2016 #4

The truth that Israel is treated far differently than most other violators of human rights. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #5

Your opinion isn't the truth. grossproffit Dec 2016 #7

Nor is yours. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #8

And I have never figured out WhiteTara Dec 2016 #14

You obviously have no idea then, PCIntern Dec 2016 #36

Please enlighten me. nt WhiteTara Dec 2016 #62

Well, we do not really know what their secret services might have done for the US. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #55

No - it's because he CHOSE leftynyc Dec 2016 #63

And some actual liberals can overlook the human rights violations committed by the State of Israel. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #68

Editing this post leftynyc Dec 2016 #70

I have as much respect for Judaism as I do for all religions. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #74

I can see you wish to ignore leftynyc Dec 2016 #76

You weren't talking about Israel. marybourg Dec 2016 #27

We trade with China who is a horrible human right's violater. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #38

Well not a whole lot different than we treat ourselves though, so there's that. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #81

Very true. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #83

Whether it is valid or not the question is as a DNC chair would this create a distraction to do the still_one Dec 2016 #23

Not a good idea to put someone in the DNC job who has Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #39

you just made the point much better than I was trying to do. The DNC chair needs to bring people still_one Dec 2016 #48

And the question of "creating a distraction" could apply to anyone who has ever made a public guillaumeb Dec 2016 #52

I pretend allegations are truths as well. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #72

Anyone who perpetuates propaganda against Jews has no place in a leadership role, yet alone our grossproffit Dec 2016 #6

There is a difference between propaganda and inconvenient truths. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #9

Did you miss this part? His implying that Jews run our government? That has NO place in our party. grossproffit Dec 2016 #12

I certainly don't say that our government is run WhiteTara Dec 2016 #18

That's what this article is about. The "inconvenient truth" that the first poster was referencing. grossproffit Dec 2016 #21

I still think that we are a better WhiteTara Dec 2016 #22

Ellison didn't say that, either. Orsino Dec 2016 #57

Like why are we so attached to Israel? WhiteTara Dec 2016 #59

WTF are you talking about? leftynyc Dec 2016 #80

He's suggesting that US policy harms the vast majority of people in that region of the world. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #29

So which countries in the region leftynyc Dec 2016 #34

No, I did not see that part, even after rereading the article. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #51

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they stand up for many types of people; TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #15

This has nothing to do with anti-Semitism, and is in no way comparable to Steve Bannon. DanTex Dec 2016 #13

accusing America's foreign policy of being "controlled" by a much smaller and less wealthier TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #16

Why did you put the word "controlled" in quotes? DanTex Dec 2016 #19

When someone purposely says that Jews run the government, that is anti-Semitism. grossproffit Dec 2016 #17

I agree. But I was talking about Keith Ellison's remarks on US policy towards Israel, which have DanTex Dec 2016 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author oberliner Dec 2016 #35

I agree. THAT person shouldn't run the DNC. Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #64

It is comparable to Bannon Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #40

Give me a break. Ellison made a statement about foreign policy that you disagree with. DanTex Dec 2016 #43

Unless the news is not accurate...his statement was very controversial. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #44

Controversial, sure. A lot of statements about Middle East politics are controversial. DanTex Dec 2016 #47

Wait. I hope I'm not understanding this. Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #65

I agree 100%. Schumer should rescind his endorsement. tritsofme Dec 2016 #24

I'd bet his office is getting calls to do so TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #25

This is looking like a smear campaign by an islamophobic conspiracy theorist Hong Kong Cavalier Dec 2016 #28

It doesn't matter why Ellison said what he said...he said it. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #41

How dare he not be a 100% shill for Israel? jfern Dec 2016 #30

The post of DNC Chairman is not a job to Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #42

That point seems to be lost by some here still_one Dec 2016 #49

Well, 3rd way failed rather badly on that, so I'll ignore their attacks. jfern Dec 2016 #87

I like Ellison and I understand his position on Israel. I just don't think he is the man or woman... phleshdef Dec 2016 #31

And the RW-generated Ellison hatred keeps on coming. baldguy Dec 2016 #37

A bit over the top and unfair. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #45

There are many reasons to oppose Ellison that don't involve besmirching his faith. baldguy Dec 2016 #46

Really? leftynyc Dec 2016 #61

Yes, really. baldguy Dec 2016 #86

I have met and like Keith Ellison but I do not support him for DNC chair. Gothmog Dec 2016 #50

well said. He's a poor fit and a distraction TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #54

Ellison is too controversial, flush his candidacy Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #66

What a BS article and a bs post hueymahl Dec 2016 #88