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2016 Postmortem

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pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 03:00 PM Nov 2016

In PA, Jill Stein waited till the last minute, likely won't have enough volunteers [View all]

She needs 3 volunteers from EVERY one of the thousands of districts in the state to sign affadavits, and only had 1500 (out of 30,000 needed) as of Sunday. Why didn't she start that at the same time she started collecting money for the recounts?

And why didn't she post info about needing the PA volunteers on the donation page, where people would be sure to see it? Lots of people would probably have been happy to sign the affidavits, if she had started collecting names soon enough. As it is, she's already missed the deadline in some districts.

http://billypenn.com/2016/11/28/jill-steins-pennsylvania-recount-4-new-developments-on-deadline-day/

Stein can’t simply ask for a recount in Pennsylvania. She needs Keystone State residents to ask for one for her.

That’s because for a recount to happen — barring a credible accusation of voter fraud ruled by the courts — three voters in each district must petition the results through an affidavit. Philadelphia alone, with its 1,600 voting divisions, would need requests from nearly 5,000 people to undergo a recount. The whole state would likely need about 30,000 volunteers. Stein got about 49,000 votes in PA.

Through Facebook and Twitter, she’s been asking for volunteers and has set up a process showing interested parties how to file an affidavit. As of 11 a.m. Sunday, she tweeted 1,500 Pennsylvanians had volunteered.

The deadline has already passed in some Pennsylvania districts, Stein said in a message to prospective volunteers. So it’s unlikely all of Pennsylvania is going to be recounted, regardless of Stein’s attempt.

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Should a significant number of counties get the requisite number of petitions, the recount process could be arduous. This is because many Pennsylvania polling stations don’t produce paper copies.

For a recount, each machine in the state would have to be opened and re-analyzed. Stein is also seeking volunteers to observe this recount process, especially in Pennsylvania’s smaller counties.

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That is disappointing and it shows madaboutharry Nov 2016 #1
Or maybe it's what she wanted to happen, pnwmom Nov 2016 #2
There is going to zero unneeded money - Wisconsin keeps upping the amount of money they want womanofthehills Nov 2016 #35
They gave an estimate before SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #41
Now they want way more money for the people working the audit womanofthehills Nov 2016 #44
I Googled but can't find the new number SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #45
Greg Palist just said this today on Randi Rhodes show womanofthehills Nov 2016 #49
I just found something SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #66
OMG - she is working day and night on 3 states at the same time womanofthehills Nov 2016 #38
I know that, what I meant madaboutharry Nov 2016 #43
She was probably very busy over the holiday weekend - sounds like an awful lot of stuff jmg257 Nov 2016 #3
Why didn't she put up info about needing the volunteers on her donation page? pnwmom Nov 2016 #4
Not sure. Can we assume she was aware of it and the deadlines involved? jmg257 Nov 2016 #5
Of course she was aware of it. Would she have collected millions of dollars pnwmom Nov 2016 #6
She could still get a huge response today womanofthehills Nov 2016 #7
Yeah, right. n/t pnwmom Nov 2016 #8
The campaign has gone to court to extend deadline - see what happens womanofthehills Nov 2016 #15
Actually, now she is gettting deadlines pushed back in some counties womanofthehills Nov 2016 #51
Great to hear this. Thank you. anamandujano Nov 2016 #61
Actually, she just needs the large Dem counties womanofthehills Nov 2016 #39
Oh, I don't know, let's hope not! Plenty of people were screaming "recount!" despite jmg257 Nov 2016 #9
It will be her money -- whatever's left over from what she collects. pnwmom Nov 2016 #12
Ha excellent point - so other then some possibly baoptics, what does she have to lose? Interesting. jmg257 Nov 2016 #14
This is a Fox news talking point - there are Federal laws about what she can use the money for womanofthehills Nov 2016 #16
The Greens say they are the party all about election integrity -- it's part of their mission. pnwmom Nov 2016 #20
Why do you keep posting lies from Fox news womanofthehills Nov 2016 #37
I didn't post anything from Fox or read anything except pnwmom Nov 2016 #48
Well what you are saying is exactly what Fox is saying womanofthehills Nov 2016 #53
So you are the one listening to Fox then. pnwmom Nov 2016 #55
Greg Palist was on Randi's show today and he said the FEC is VERY STRICT about this womanofthehills Nov 2016 #57
Greg Palast lost all credibility with me when he went around yelling pnwmom Nov 2016 #69
I disagree - I think he is an excellent investigative reporter womanofthehills Nov 2016 #72
Then why was he lying about the provisional votes not being counted in CA? pnwmom Nov 2016 #74
Or maybe not for election integrity SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #27
You keep posting it will be her money - which is a HUGE Republican talking point womanofthehills Nov 2016 #36
There will be no f**king left over money - she will need to raise more womanofthehills Nov 2016 #42
I read something about Trump challenging the recount, can't remember which state. anamandujano Nov 2016 #62
Ha Ha - one of the states says he wants to recount is California womanofthehills Nov 2016 #64
He has access to chit tons of money if he wants recounts. anamandujano Nov 2016 #67
If you added the initial filing fees they came to 2.1 million. pnwmom Nov 2016 #77
Early in this post, someone looked up Wisconsin fees & said it's now 3.5 million Wisconsin wants womanofthehills Nov 2016 #82
How do you know what she was aware of? Your posts on this topic are biased KittyWampus Nov 2016 #23
Agreed - all she is doing is posting Republican talking points all over DU womanofthehills Nov 2016 #40
Yes absolutely she was aware of it. texasmomof3 Nov 2016 #10
Thanks - that makes sense! Very interesting situation. jmg257 Nov 2016 #11
Well put. And welcome to DU! pnwmom Nov 2016 #13
Agreed - working on three states at once womanofthehills Nov 2016 #17
I don't have the money to put in meow2u3 Nov 2016 #18
Jill just tweeted they are filing affidavits just now in Allegheny County womanofthehills Nov 2016 #19
Philadelphia county is where they need them. Lots of Dems and pnwmom Nov 2016 #21
And how does one recount paperless hackable machines? LisaL Nov 2016 #22
Rechecks what it said... Bob41213 Nov 2016 #24
70 per cent machines, 30 percent absentee ballots and early voting womanofthehills Nov 2016 #46
The proposal is that they open up the machines and look inside them. pnwmom Nov 2016 #78
No. Philly produced the required margins. Look elsewhere. Barack_America Nov 2016 #75
Here's a map of the country showing counties that use paperless DRE machines, pnwmom Nov 2016 #80
Nope. Same machines county-wide. Barack_America Nov 2016 #81
Pennsylvania's aging voting machines could be 'nightmare scenario' (7 minutes and a screwdriver) womanofthehills Nov 2016 #83
Okay, that's what I'm talking about. The only machines the computer scientists approve of pnwmom Nov 2016 #84
PA counties where R votes exceeded R registrations DeminPennswoods Nov 2016 #25
There were court orders in PA about KGB/GOP fraud LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #26
Can you elaborate on that? drm604 Nov 2016 #29
Not what you think. GOP was forbidden to have poll watchers in Philly Amishman Nov 2016 #47
Yes, because of PA law. drm604 Nov 2016 #68
The deadline passed Nov 21st... I think Jill was fish for something good for 4139 Nov 2016 #28
Not true ELY08 Nov 2016 #31
Deadline for 'citizen recount' was the 21st; deadline to contest in court is today 4139 Nov 2016 #33
Thanks ELY08 Nov 2016 #34
Well Pn ELY08 Nov 2016 #30
I volunteered drm604 Nov 2016 #32
I wonder what will happen to the surplus funds she raised oberliner Nov 2016 #50
OMG! Give it a break! FEC has very STRICT REGULATIONS about this - womanofthehills Nov 2016 #54
If this was posted on twitter, you'd get a message saying "you already made this tweet." anamandujano Nov 2016 #63
So isn't this a situation where a site like DU could have helped her. andym Nov 2016 #52
You can donate at this site to help - womanofthehills Nov 2016 #59
Why didn't she use that page to ask for volunteers willing to sign affidavits pnwmom Nov 2016 #71
I filed affidavits this morning with two other voters from my precinct. apcalc Nov 2016 #56
OMG it's Gore deja vu. Why in the world did Hillary concede? she should have Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2016 #58
She did lose. Travis_0004 Nov 2016 #60
Conceding means nothing. anamandujano Nov 2016 #65
Because of the petitions drm604 Nov 2016 #70
Bucks County also delaying certification womanofthehills Nov 2016 #73
Damn right, the voting machines are a disgrace. apcalc Nov 2016 #76
The fact that the DNC is staying neutral on this makes me very angry. YOHABLO Nov 2016 #79
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