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2016 Postmortem

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Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:34 PM Nov 2016

Ahead of recount, Wisconsin has already wiped out 5,000 imaginary Donald Trump votes [View all]

This is going to get ugly, esp since the SCOTUS is 4-4.

http://www.palmerreport.com/news/ahead-of-recount-wisconsin-has-already-wiped-out-5000-phony-votes-for-donald-trump/234/

Earlier today we reported that three precincts in the Wisconsin county of Outagamie had revised their vote totals downward for Donald Trump by more than a thousand votes combined, with local officials insisting to their local ABC News affiliate that it was a mere arithmetic error. But as more revisions come in throughout the state, a total of nearly five thousand Trump votes in Wisconsin have now been taken off the official board because they apparently never existed to begin with.

At the end of election night the New York Times reported that Donald Trump had won the state of Wisconsin with a total of 1,409,467 votes, giving him a winning margin of 27,257 votes over Hillary Clinton’s total of 1,382,210. These numbers were based on what the individual counties and precincts were reporting that night. But now seventeen days later, based on various Wisconsin precincts revising their own totals, Dave Wasserman of the respected Cook Political Report has updated the totals. Donald Trump now has 1,404,536 total votes in Wisconsin, while Hillary Clinton now has 1,382,011 total votes.

Two things immediately jump out, as first spotted by music critic Dave Greenwald. The first is that, even ahead of the forthcoming recount in Wisconsin, Donald Trump’s lead has already shrunk to just 22,525 votes. That means 18% of his “lead” has already vanished, based on precincts catching some of their own incorrect numbers, and internet gawkers catching others. But the second thing that jumps out is that the revisions have served to erase thousands of votes from Trump, while affirming that Clinton’s vote total was essentially correct to begin with.


Some have questioned the credibility of Palmer Report, so please note the data was provided by respected and non-partisan Cook Political Report
Link to the data (see Wisconsin at the bottom of the 'Swing State' list)-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=19
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Explains why I'm not good with numbers HassleCat Nov 2016 #1
It will be interesting to see what happens when the dust settles. AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #2
Indeed, it's all fun and games until the truth is revealed Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #3
Exactly!! It was mentioned somewhere else how we are blatently ignoring this AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #7
The Republican FBI keithbvadu2 Nov 2016 #63
So outrageous. AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #103
Same here. NWCorona Nov 2016 #12
does anyone know how much credibility Bill Palmer has? spooky3 Nov 2016 #4
He posted here in April oberliner Nov 2016 #9
Thank you. spooky3 Nov 2016 #19
Here are some people who like him and info he posts about himself - sounds good to me womanofthehills Nov 2016 #10
Bill Palmer?? benld74 Nov 2016 #5
This is a BS clickbait website - not an actual news source oberliner Nov 2016 #6
Isn't Palmer the one SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #8
Palmer is credible. These "errors" all just happened to be in favor of Trump radius777 Nov 2016 #27
Palmer's math certainly isn't credible SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #35
So here you are again taking the other Party's side rusty fender Nov 2016 #73
Does seem to be the pattern. Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #74
Yes rusty fender Nov 2016 #75
Yes SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #87
LOL! You have so overplayed your hand. Squinch Nov 2016 #91
Still waiting SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #95
Here you go: You have overplayed your hand in a comical way. Squinch Nov 2016 #98
Still nothing I see SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #100
Good for you! Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #94
LOL n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #96
How am I taking the other party's side? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #76
It's getting a little old... FBaggins Nov 2016 #80
Yep SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #89
Here is Steve Schale's article SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #86
LOL! Gosh, look who's here trying to dissuade people from doing a recount! What a surprise. Squinch Nov 2016 #90
Not trying to dissuade anyone from doing a recount SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #93
Sure you aren't. That's why you go into every thread and try to dissuade people from supporting Squinch Nov 2016 #97
I haven't tried to dissuade anyone SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #99
Sure you haven't tried to dissuade anyone. Except for all the times in every thread on the subject Squinch Nov 2016 #101
Thinking something is a waste of time SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #102
You are so insistent, and so ever present in all these threads, dissuading people from Squinch Nov 2016 #104
Do you even know what the word dissuade means? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #105
Lol! Tell us again how we shouldn't support the recounts, though you don't really care Squinch Nov 2016 #107
So why are the Party leaders remaining silent and not pursuing recounts (until Stein prevailed?) Texin Nov 2016 #53
because Democrats have no stones, radius777 Nov 2016 #54
Like when they fought the Florida election fraud? That Guy 888 Nov 2016 #70
Palmer was in another thread here and getting pretty well drubbed ificandream Nov 2016 #67
Palmer is pro-Hillary/Obama and dislikes the alt-left/berniebots, radius777 Nov 2016 #108
But ... ificandream Nov 2016 #109
Exactly forthemiddle Nov 2016 #55
Thank you. nt babylonsister Nov 2016 #13
The data he links to is from Cook Political Report, which is credible. Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #15
If the overvotes all favor Trump, that's a problem. ucrdem Nov 2016 #14
They weren't overvotes SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #16
Yes I'm sure it was all just a big misunderstanding. nt ucrdem Nov 2016 #20
Yes I'm sure you've never been an election official SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #22
Is this the new meme by the anti-Clinton/Obama alt-left, radius777 Nov 2016 #28
1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #31
Nope SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #36
Wow! Thank you. chknltl Nov 2016 #50
Yep. Squinch Nov 2016 #92
Please. Cheviteau Nov 2016 #39
Why is it these mistakes kacekwl Nov 2016 #48
They don't always favor Republicans SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #49
Ah, the Daily News Bin dude... demmiblue Nov 2016 #34
Be Advised? Cheviteau Nov 2016 #37
Just letting people know about the site oberliner Nov 2016 #38
Thanks. Cheviteau Nov 2016 #40
Sounds good oberliner Nov 2016 #43
It looks like some of the overvotes observed earlier had been added to Trump's totals ucrdem Nov 2016 #11
Snopes has the current margin at 22,177 votes, after...ah..corrections. Tactical Peek Nov 2016 #17
Sure does ailsagirl Nov 2016 #23
Thanks! 2naSalit Nov 2016 #44
Wisconsin and past voting irregularities - womanofthehills Nov 2016 #18
This time it was only 85.36% ucrdem Nov 2016 #24
Australia has compulsory voting and their turnout is 95% womanofthehills Nov 2016 #52
This is not an anomaly forthemiddle Nov 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Nov 2016 #21
Kick Hekate Nov 2016 #25
22,000 is a big hump to get over in a recount. RandySF Nov 2016 #26
Yeah? Cheviteau Nov 2016 #42
Only if the tally is now without further "irregularities" are our prospects dim DFW Nov 2016 #45
the larger point is about election fraud radius777 Nov 2016 #51
Recounts typically do find errors davidn3600 Nov 2016 #60
1,000,000 and then some! anamandujano Nov 2016 #79
5K before beginning is extraordinary. 5 will get you 10 there are thousands more. anamandujano Nov 2016 #78
Arithmetic Error? DallasNE Nov 2016 #29
need a miracle demtenjeep Nov 2016 #30
KnR Hugin Nov 2016 #32
i'm shocked... not. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #33
Yes, but Action Nov 2016 #41
If this election has taught us anything it's that... PinkFloyd Nov 2016 #58
Remember, Trump supporters have guns and have threatened to use them if they don't win. alfredo Nov 2016 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author PinkFloyd Nov 2016 #106
Franken vs Coleman JonLP24 Nov 2016 #85
Failure or not it will be successful in bringing attention and for that alone Ligyron Nov 2016 #46
Indeed, I chipped in a few dollars as well. Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #47
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Nov 2016 #56
God Himself could announce Trump's shrinking lead... Beartracks Nov 2016 #59
The voters in 2017 should decide the next president bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #61
K and R. Strike a blow for Democracy in America. oasis Nov 2016 #64
REC #100 ffr Nov 2016 #65
Not a good source ificandream Nov 2016 #66
The Cook Political Report is an exceptional source FBaggins Nov 2016 #77
who's rigging who? barbtries Nov 2016 #68
This may help sort that out... Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #69
Gotta stop using that fake news crap... ificandream Nov 2016 #71
Who appointed you arbiter of 'fake news' crap'? Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #88
My wisdom ... ificandream Nov 2016 #110
So as a journo, your skill set may be employed by backing up your claims. Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #111
Not at all... ificandream Nov 2016 #112
thank you. barbtries Nov 2016 #72
Well stated. anamandujano Nov 2016 #81
Yep, I can't take 60 out of an ATM without rock solid accounting Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #83
Using Dr. Fitrakis data triron Nov 2016 #82
This is completely normal JonLP24 Nov 2016 #84
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