2016 Postmortem

dogman

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15. All off the above.

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 02:42 AM

Nov 2016

To know the real failure we would have to know the campaign's overall strategy. They sure seem to have believed they had it in the bag and were even going to take Congress. They did not protect their base, but we don't know what was their idea of base. Arrogance or misinformation? I think those that ran the campaign know, but are unlikely to share the truth with us. More importantly is the question of the lesson learned. Will we ever learn the truth from the professionals who have their self-preservation in mind?

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Why did Hillary Clinton lose the GE? [View all] BainsBane Nov 2016 OP

Comey was the thing that turned what was in her favor. but i think if there was a more active JI7 Nov 2016 #1

I should add that BainsBane Nov 2016 #3

No more room. Nt BainsBane Nov 2016 #4

It falls under "Hillary too flawed" FBaggins Nov 2016 #31

I don't think there was any one thing, as you said mvd Nov 2016 #9

that doesn't explain anti free trade candidates like Stickland and Feingold losing JI7 Nov 2016 #10

I think it may have been a coattail effect. Would have done better mvd Nov 2016 #12

no, Johnson and Portman got more votes than Trump. JI7 Nov 2016 #13

Again I say if Clinton did better, our candidates would have mvd Nov 2016 #14

you said the thing about populist and outsider. but Johnson and Portman doing much better goes JI7 Nov 2016 #16

Not really mvd Nov 2016 #17

Adding in mvd Nov 2016 #20

True, but arguing that the failure to denounce free trade BainsBane Nov 2016 #19

Also you could say pointing to a couple candidates doesn't tell the whole story either mvd Nov 2016 #22

all three of the blue states that flipped were crippled by NAFTA.... those voters didn't like her putitinD Nov 2016 #25

I also think Comey alone could have done it all. Well, him and the press. LisaL Nov 2016 #18

Here is what I DON'T understand RandySF Nov 2016 #2

I think that's an issue of turn out BainsBane Nov 2016 #5

It was like the scene in Gladiator where the tigers start leaping out of the ground. ucrdem Nov 2016 #6

Sadly, this is much bigger than Hillary. Hillary can't be used to explain away a Republican- Trust Buster Nov 2016 #7

Do any of the options above help you explain that? BainsBane Nov 2016 #8

It's never just one thing but an accumulative buildup of many things. Serial low voter turnout Trust Buster Nov 2016 #11

I can't disagree with that. BainsBane Nov 2016 #21

The Dems & The Campaign Ran Against Trump vs The Repug Party.... global1 Nov 2016 #24

It would have breaked convention but exboyfil Nov 2016 #34

All off the above. dogman Nov 2016 #15

Too flawed. She's a woman and she had the temerity to run for president? WTF was she thinking! tandem5 Nov 2016 #23

It's possible to believe there was more than one reason for the loss. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #26

Oftentimes things have multiple causes, acting synergistically. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #27

I agree BainsBane Nov 2016 #28

The Dems could have ran FDR .... LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #29

Seven out of ten apply, IMHO. BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #30

She didn't get enough votes in a few swing states. lovemydog Nov 2016 #32

The wrong people voted for her Freddie Nov 2016 #33

I don't believe she lost the GE DFW Nov 2016 #35

Can't pick one of those because... Mike Nelson Nov 2016 #36

I think it was a combination of factors but the balance due Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #37

#1, #2 and #5. baldguy Nov 2016 #38

I went with Comey, but he acted out of misogyny. boston bean Nov 2016 #39

Maybe partially due to the uneven recovery many a good man Nov 2016 #40

Uninformed idiots that thought Hillary was too flawed. nt LexVegas Nov 2016 #41

Name calling rather than logically explaining your position for why I & others are wrong think Nov 2016 #43

Better you try to explain why Clinton was flawed. baldguy Nov 2016 #45

WaPo: "Hillary Clinton voters see lots of flaws in their candidate" think Nov 2016 #46

BZZZZZT! You lose. baldguy Nov 2016 #48

60% airtime/media - some mix of remaining 40% several factors underpants Nov 2016 #42

The Electoral College treestar Nov 2016 #44

Mostly we allow degenerates in flyover states to vote. AngryAmish Nov 2016 #47

I'm in a flyover state BainsBane Nov 2016 #49