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2016 Postmortem

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pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 04:06 AM Nov 2016

Toni Morrison: Fear of losing white privilege led to Trump's election. [View all]

And she's right, because working class black people didn't respond to Trump's message. But white people did, from all economic backgrounds.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/toni-morrison-fear-of-losing-white-privilege-led-to-trumps-election_us_58330ee2e4b058ce7aac0964

“The comfort of being ‘naturally better than’ is hard to give up.”

Toni Morrison has written a powerful essay in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s election as president of the United States, and it gets right to the heart of why Trump won.

In a piece titled “Mourning For Whiteness” from the November 21 print issue of the New Yorker (published online Monday), the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist argues that Trump won due to the terror of privileged white men in the face of a rapidly diversifying country.

“Under slave laws, the necessity for color rankings was obvious, but in America today, post-civil-rights legislation, white people’s conviction of their natural superiority is being lost,” Morrison writes.

“There are ‘people of color’ everywhere, threatening to erase this long-understood definition of America. And what then? Another black President? A predominantly black Senate? Three black Supreme Court Justices? The threat is frightening.”

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White MALE privelege apcalc Nov 2016 #1
White women have more privilege than black women -- and the majority of white women pnwmom Nov 2016 #2
Certainly no more than white men have over black men whathehell Nov 2016 #14
White women do NOT have "privilege"--I hate to remind you of it. duffyduff Nov 2016 #37
They do compared to black women. They make more money than black women pnwmom Nov 2016 #44
Both of those issues are generally under the control of white men.. whathehell Nov 2016 #69
So? White women still benefit from white privilege. They don't benefit pnwmom Nov 2016 #72
No more than black women benefit from black MALE privilege.. whathehell Nov 2016 #75
Black male privilege is less than white male privilege. pnwmom Nov 2016 #80
Yes, we all know that.. whathehell Nov 2016 #81
That's what you're getting wrong. Acknowledging white privilege pnwmom Nov 2016 #82
Who on this site is not acknowledging it? whathehell Nov 2016 #83
Have to disagree. moriah Nov 2016 #45
I thought only half did TrekLuver Nov 2016 #46
53% of white women voted for the treestar Nov 2016 #73
Actually, Trump got a lot of votes from women. Couldn't have won without them. Nitram Nov 2016 #19
I'm sorry, but whathehell Nov 2016 #25
I'm afraid only racists and bigots, no matter how uncoscious those motivations may be, would vote Nitram Nov 2016 #29
How would you explain whathehell Nov 2016 #31
Many racists tell themselves they are not racist. What better way to "prove" to themselves and Nitram Nov 2016 #56
I'm sorry, but I think that's a stretch.. whathehell Nov 2016 #57
The fear of terrorism itself was employed in the service of racism and xenophobia. Nitram Nov 2016 #59
To an extent, but that whathehell Nov 2016 #60
To deny refugee status to carefully vetted Syrians and other Moslems because they might be... Nitram Nov 2016 #66
While racism is clearly the one element in this election that's captured whathehell Nov 2016 #68
I'm not suggesting the it is simple, or that race is the only factor. Nitram Nov 2016 #71
I believe all of us carry some "unconscious" racism, but I disagree whathehell Nov 2016 #79
After the bush presidency katsy Nov 2016 #78
Go ahead and believe sexism doesn't exist. Just who was HRC? A woman. duffyduff Nov 2016 #38
Trump got more votes from blacks & Hispanics than Romney whathehell Nov 2016 #76
Heterosexual White Male Privilage... TrishaJ Nov 2016 #22
Sorry, but it's WHITE PRIVILEGE. Please don't deflect from what Morrison is saying. chimpymustgo Nov 2016 #49
Sorry, but not all of us believe that whathehell Nov 2016 #53
"The threat is frightening." BumRushDaShow Nov 2016 #3
I don't accept this premise. It was the economy predominantly, and depressed Dem turnout. OnDoutside Nov 2016 #4
Its easier for me to accept when the UE rate in WI or MI is in the 4s and voter suppression uponit7771 Nov 2016 #5
It's perception. We've had the same problem here in Ireland, where the last government dragged the OnDoutside Nov 2016 #7
"People feel angry but don't know what they are angry at." ... hmmmm, this sounds like uponit7771 Nov 2016 #8
Yes and the fringes of the political spectrum are taking advantage. If there is a lesson, it is that OnDoutside Nov 2016 #10
"full metal jacket" ... AMEN too that uponit7771 Nov 2016 #11
the depressed dem turnout is proving to be untrue La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #20
The economy was only a smokescreen for many people who are not doing very badly at all. Nitram Nov 2016 #30
Not in the Rust Belt. This is the exact same problem as here in Ireland in last February's General OnDoutside Nov 2016 #36
So they bought Trump's promise to open all the factories again? Nitram Nov 2016 #58
Not necessarily. Many might have jobs again, but income isn't what it was 10/15 years ago. They OnDoutside Nov 2016 #64
Exactly. Magical thinking is what passes for political thought in some quarters. Nitram Nov 2016 #67
Absolutely true. It can't be a coincidence though that there is such a public OnDoutside Nov 2016 #70
That's only your opinion... whathehell Nov 2016 #77
K&R! DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #6
Rapidly diversifying, crime on the rise again, "law and order", terrorism, loss of jobs, jmg257 Nov 2016 #9
I'd guess that fear of 'crime on the rise again, terrorism and loss of jobs' are not whathehell Nov 2016 #15
Yep. Id agree with that. jmg257 Nov 2016 #16
But I thought it was about WALL STREET! And TRADE! And the MINIMUM WAGE! (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #12
And the threat is real. White only dominance of the world is rapidly coming to an end. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #13
Many of the same people who voted for Trump, voted for Obama in 2012 whathehell Nov 2016 #17
Where is your evidence for that? She's getting very close to the same number of votes pnwmom Nov 2016 #21
Here you go.. whathehell Nov 2016 #24
That looks anecdotal to me. But your nytimes link contains this interesting point: pnwmom Nov 2016 #32
That is it. People still haven't grown up. Women have headed governments for CENTURIES, duffyduff Nov 2016 #39
No...You need to open the links and read them.. whathehell Nov 2016 #54
Is there proof of that? treestar Nov 2016 #74
Toni Morrison is right. The backlash has been quite a while coming but Trump... Nitram Nov 2016 #18
The riots in Ferguson, Oakland, etc. contributed to the fear as well. jalan48 Nov 2016 #23
Inagree cilla4progress Nov 2016 #26
Amen to that. When folks have nothing, they cling to the illusion of "something" McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #27
. . . treestar Nov 2016 #34
A good number of white men I have talked with backed Trump as they believed ... spin Nov 2016 #28
Your Hillary-trashing is not appreciated and has little basis in fact. duffyduff Nov 2016 #40
You're probably the only person in American that doesn't think Obama is charismatic. Ace Rothstein Nov 2016 #41
Agreed..I heard him speak in a small room before he ran for president.. whathehell Nov 2016 #62
I agree, white male privilege MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 #33
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2016 #35
So why did Trump get MORE of the Latino vote than Romney? (Who actually has family ties to Mexico) Coventina Nov 2016 #42
Vote suppression, for one thing. The voting rights act was dismantled in 2013, pnwmom Nov 2016 #48
He also got twice as many black votes than Romney. nt 7962 Nov 2016 #85
I'm sure more talk of white privilege is going to help the party win elections in the future. Ace Rothstein Nov 2016 #43
Oh, yeah... more of that winning strategy, please! SMC22307 Nov 2016 #50
If this is what you think, 2020 isn't going to be any better... Bob41213 Nov 2016 #47
Progress delayed Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #51
K & R nt TeamPooka Nov 2016 #52
Rehashed outrage-bait version 764847362. I wish the blogsphere was as tired of this type of trash jack_krass Nov 2016 #55
Romney won a higher percentage of white voters than Trump oberliner Nov 2016 #61
Stop repeating facts. Ruins the desired race-based narrative 7962 Nov 2016 #86
I get a sense TRUMP came off as the change candidate while Hillary seemed quantumjunkie Nov 2016 #63
I agree with everything Bernie has said, and I also agree with this. They aren't mutually exclusive. JCanete Nov 2016 #65
That for sure. nt oasis Nov 2016 #84
Inherent in the "working class whites" narrative is the notion that... Garrett78 Nov 2016 #87
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