2016 Postmortem

Florencenj2point0

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71. there is a rule at dkos

Reply to LS_Editor (Reply #59)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:47 PM

Aug 2016

DBAD don't be a dick. We should really have that one here so you'd stop or get banned.

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Damning Hillary Clinton with Faint Praise [View all] MineralMan Aug 2016 OP

I feel the same way ... only, you explained it much better than I could have. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #1

It's been on my mind the past couple of days. MineralMan Aug 2016 #4

Another difficult thing is: If you say nothing, it becomes "the norm". But if someone calls it out… NurseJackie Aug 2016 #8

Well, I try to say something when I see that strategy being used. MineralMan Aug 2016 #12

You are a treasure MM Thanks. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #17

I second this nomination Cary Aug 2016 #60

I like your posts as well. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #93

Thanks Cary Aug 2016 #98

Me too. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #105

I have asked and I never get a coherent answer Cary Aug 2016 #112

The feet to the fire/concerned squad Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #122

Indeed Cary Aug 2016 #127

Ah, well ... you know .... Cary Aug 2016 #58

Agreed. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #2

I love your posts, Mineralman! So glad you are here. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #3

You're very kind to say that. MineralMan Aug 2016 #6

Glad to hear you'll keep posting, MM NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #132

Me too, MineralMan!! ailsagirl Aug 2016 #11

Here's a thing: HRC is raking in the Repub endorsements without giving an inch on her principles... Hekate Aug 2016 #5

Yes. I see that as moving those moderate Republicans in MineralMan Aug 2016 #7

After the last year and a half... yallerdawg Aug 2016 #9

Discordant notes can be stimulating and enriching if Hortensis Aug 2016 #67

It's inevitable. Would have happened to Sanders, Stein, Kucinich, Nader, Debs too whatthehey Aug 2016 #10

Yes. Perfection is always unattainable. MineralMan Aug 2016 #13

If a leader deserves criticism or faint praise ... ananda Aug 2016 #14

No She does not Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #16

This is an odd dismissal intersectionality Aug 2016 #38

It is not odd at all Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #94

He got loads of criticism on healthcare here mcar Aug 2016 #19

Healthcare? He managed to get something, but MineralMan Aug 2016 #22

And we lost the House as a result of not backing the president...pretty foolish Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #100

Yup... MineralMan Aug 2016 #110

Exactly and some are just panting to attack our nominee...I don't get it. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #124

What is wrong Florencenj2point0 Aug 2016 #66

and a clear absence of praise on her work at the childrens defense fund La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #86

Same people are relentlessly bashing the idea of "safe spaces" in another thread bettyellen Aug 2016 #88

And what outocme does this righteous criticism or faint praise ensure? Perhaps I should say loss... Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #101

Do you expect a candidate to agree with you on every issue? CajunBlazer Aug 2016 #104

+1, "...I think we all recognize this technique of minimization..." while Bush can blow up worlds uponit7771 Aug 2016 #15

"Attempts to diminish his accomplishments" mcar Aug 2016 #18

Yes, and SS is still intact. I know, because I get a monthly deposit from it. MineralMan Aug 2016 #23

I hope we learned, too mcar Aug 2016 #26

Well, I'm looking for ways I can object to posts that do that, MineralMan Aug 2016 #27

False is a fucking lie, he made the damn proposal it is a open fact. TheKentuckian Aug 2016 #72

It's important to not let "perfect" be the enemy of "good." Saviolo Aug 2016 #20

Yes. Progress is always a goal. MineralMan Aug 2016 #25

Certainly, Saviolo Aug 2016 #29

Understand that Hillary is not Obama Florencenj2point0 Aug 2016 #70

Which is why I said Saviolo Aug 2016 #85

Really? How can we move forward without people fighting? LS_Editor Aug 2016 #21

I see. You make negative statements about my OP, but MineralMan Aug 2016 #24

You equate criticism with a nefarious tactic meant to undermine Obama and Hillary LS_Editor Aug 2016 #28

No, I do not. Again, your brief reply is devoid of MineralMan Aug 2016 #32

Yes. You certainly are sorry. LS_Editor Aug 2016 #59

there is a rule at dkos Florencenj2point0 Aug 2016 #71

Swell idea. LS_Editor Aug 2016 #82

yep, and his critique of that figure of speech is an indictment of BHO"s use of it, contradicting stupidicus Aug 2016 #36

That is the point Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #96

The thing I like most about you is that you're not the one who makes that decision. LS_Editor Aug 2016 #111

Hey I just want to elect Democrats and advance the progressive agenda Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #123

well, he obviously supports everything she's done or will do stupidicus Aug 2016 #33

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #30

The only thing I'm enamored of is the concept MineralMan Aug 2016 #35

it is largely just you and those like you stupidicus Aug 2016 #44

If by censorship, you mean KMOD Aug 2016 #41

This is a good thing...Greens and others come here and beat up on Democrats otherwise. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #99

Why discuss issues? G_j Aug 2016 #31

Is it? Well, during election campaigns, I freely admit to MineralMan Aug 2016 #34

MM, never complain, saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #37

Actually, in my mind, there is nothing wrong with cheerleading G_j Aug 2016 #52

Agree Highway61 Aug 2016 #103

Yeah, same ol' shit, different day lillypaddle Aug 2016 #43

lol. MM obvious. cali Aug 2016 #39

I love Carly Simon. Don't you? MineralMan Aug 2016 #78

... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #84

Nobody Does It Better? Rex Aug 2016 #126

Hotcakes. MineralMan Aug 2016 #131

Old concerned talking points: Hillary is a horrible candidate, might lose. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #40

Preach Brother! nt lillypaddle Aug 2016 #42

And so it continues, your campaign to stifle all dissent Martin Eden Aug 2016 #45

You'd need to make that suggestion to the owners of the site. MineralMan Aug 2016 #74

I would certainly do that Martin Eden Aug 2016 #79

I doubt that will ever happen. The rules, however, that do exist MineralMan Aug 2016 #80

We both like to exercise freedom of expression Martin Eden Aug 2016 #81

Write the president a letter...why don't you? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #97

Didn't realize that letter writing and discussing issues in a political forum ... Martin Eden Aug 2016 #109

Attacks have nothing to do with discussion...and it only helps the GOP. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #125

Attacks? Martin Eden Aug 2016 #128

Those who don't like the rules would prefer that DU Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #133

If DU was nothing more than an echo chamber Martin Eden Aug 2016 #134

After watching Obama savaged, Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #135

We can discuss issues and justly criticise politicians Martin Eden Aug 2016 #136

I consider the DU policy we have now Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #137

Well then, Martin Eden Aug 2016 #138

Your unbridled enthusiasm has always held me in awe, not A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2016 #46

Obama actually TOLD people to hold his feet to the fire. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #47

He meant that literally. A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2016 #48

It's funny until you find out what burnt feet smell like. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #50

Luckily I'm 95 and lost my scents of smell long ago. A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2016 #51

I dont know if there's a saying "that smells like burnt feet", but there should be. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #54

It does call up a rather not pleasant imagining to the sniffer. A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2016 #56

Yeah but I guess he meant in a reasonable way Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #102

your post doesn't make a whole ton of sense. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #114

What I meant was I don't suppose Obama expected the awful Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #115

And what was the result Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #116

We could have done a lot more with the mandate of the '08 election. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #119

We never had a veto proof majority...and the day Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #121

There's no "crowd". "Hold my feet to the fire" came from Obama himself. It's a direct quote. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #129

my response (can't get the hang of doing a title every time) wncHillsupport Aug 2016 #49

As long as they vote Democratic, I don't follow kvetching/purism bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #53

You nailed it, MineralMan! SunSeeker Aug 2016 #55

We live in a represenative democracy, and that includes activism to hold elected leaders accountable DemocraticWing Aug 2016 #57

Spot on. Every word. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2016 #62

Very well said Martin Eden Aug 2016 #68

I was one of those civil rights protesters, and MineralMan Aug 2016 #75

I agreed with a lot of the Obama criticism from his early days. Lucky Luciano Aug 2016 #61

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #63

Good grief. KMOD Aug 2016 #69

Thank you! DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #64

"Good but not good enough" bonemachine Aug 2016 #65

tight wire walkers make it look like they are struggling to keep their balance to thrill the crowd.. Bill USA Aug 2016 #73

So, no discussion of issues Bettie Aug 2016 #76

I'm never silent. During general election campaigns, I'm all in MineralMan Aug 2016 #77

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2016 #83

You never answered my question...just wondering Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #106

FWIW, HRC is a better choice than Donald Trump. aikoaiko Aug 2016 #87

Yes, and I don't care for accusations that DUers aren't thinking critically, betsuni Aug 2016 #89

Meh, you did ok Michael. KMOD Aug 2016 #95

I dunno... Saviolo Aug 2016 #113

So we cannot have anything but complete acceptance of her plans? AllyCat Aug 2016 #90

She hasn't been elected as President yet. MineralMan Aug 2016 #92

And I saw Obama trashed on this forum and others including the liberal press ...what's left of it. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #107

Guilty. Orsino Aug 2016 #91

I hope so...we need to accomplish something...if we don't get the House Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #108

we should not be spin doctors Enrique Aug 2016 #117

And that's just what this normal citizen is doing. MineralMan Aug 2016 #118

not if you do what your OP suggests Enrique Aug 2016 #120

You saw what happened to Obama...do you think that helped us? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #130