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Showing Original Post only (View all)Remember the people who were saying we should be nice to Jill Stein? [View all]
Now she's running attack ads against Hillary. In swing states. She's totally committed to bringing about president Trump. Maybe she wants there to be a nuclear war. Maybe she wants ten million people to be deported. Maybe she wants millions to lose their healthcare. Maybe she likes global warming deniers. Maybe she thinks rich people need more tax cuts.
Who knows what she's thinking. The only thing we know for sure is that she is every bit as much an enemy of progressive causes as Karl Rove.
So: fuck Jill Stein and Ralph Nader and every other Green Party saboteur. And after this ad buy, nobody can pretend to be confused as to where she stands vis-a-vis Trump. She is right-wing enabler, plain and simple.
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The ones saying we should be nice to Jill Stein are many of the same ones that are saying
Squinch
Aug 2016
#2
I usually describe my political feelings as 'somewhat to the left of Karl Marx'.
Stonepounder
Aug 2016
#17
not really as both the far far left and far far right are often murderous authoritarians
Grey Lemercier
Aug 2016
#283
oh yes, absolutely agree that Sanders supporters are nowhere near Maoists
Grey Lemercier
Aug 2016
#314
Recovery does take time - I see it slowly happening on Facebook and with my friends
womanofthehills
Aug 2016
#450
Where is she getting the $ to run these ads? Does she have backing or her donation numbers growing?
Person 2713
Aug 2016
#4
And we have to fight for ALL of them. The only thing standing between Trump and the WH
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#145
I was attacked for calling her an anti-science, anti-vax enabling threat in swing states
Grey Lemercier
Aug 2016
#9
Well, I said I'd have trouble, not that I wouldn't successfully resist. nt
SusanCalvin
Aug 2016
#226
Add Stein to the list: Libertarian+Tea Party+Christian Coalition =John Birch Society of the Koch Fam
misterhighwasted
Aug 2016
#10
it's what you call them if they promote homeopathy and say questions about vaccines are "reasonable"
CreekDog
Aug 2016
#194
Because questions about vaccines are by definition never reasonable.
freedom fighter jh
Aug 2016
#196
So why do you think the goverment pays billions of dollars for vaccine injuries"
womanofthehills
Aug 2016
#468
Like Dr. Ben Carson is such a genius? Jill Stein is afraid WiFi signals are killing kids.
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#199
I will be happy to provide you an answer to each of those after you answer but one
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#208
"Progressive" doesn't mean "I drive a Prius" or "I'm a straight-ticket Democrat" or "I volunteer at
Attorney in Texas
Aug 2016
#389
It does mean that you vote for the Democratic nominee...who is the only one
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#486
How is my OP divisive? Jill Stein is a right-wing tool, and I'm criticizing her.
DanTex
Aug 2016
#56
Because you label progressives that don;t agree with you as things they are not.
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#137
Gore1FL was quite uncivil. You have demonstrated a certain selectivenes in your concern for civility
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#148
There is no such thing as a progressive who is not supporting the Democratic candidate.
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#178
No, if you are willing to risk Trump wining then you care nothing for progressive causes.
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#265
If the Stein voters are not progressive as people on this thread (and others) contend
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#267
So they SAYYYYY. But when you walk like a duck, talk like a duck, & look like a duck...
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#297
They are loooong gone. There's no catching that bus no matter WHAT we do.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#374
So then they aren't hurting Hillary by not voting for her if they were not intending to anyway
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#375
Make no mistake. It is MEANT to hurt Hillary. But fortunately they are irrelevant.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#378
Because you drag it on. You are responsible for that. Congratulations.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#380
Um, yes. All up and down this thread, you have more posts than the author of OP.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#382
You don't get to dictate how people echoes themselves or their politics.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#432
They are progressives. People are claiming Stein is taking them away from Hillary as voters
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#385
There were people here at DU that argued they were voting in the primary based on hurt feelings
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#467
No. they mouth progressive platitudes but act as an attachment of the GOP...by
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#365
She is running ads in swings states ...these ads target Hillary...and are intended to take
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#321
Greens talk the progessive talk but walk the Republican walk enabling a right wing agenda by
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#367
The fact they are running ads in swing states shows they will never be allies
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#393
This is very RUDE of you! It is uncalled for to wage a personal attack against someone
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#149
By that argument she's taking votes away from Trump. What is your concern, then? nt
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#280
i can't make your argument for you, and you shouldn't be so lazy as to not back up the accusation
CreekDog
Aug 2016
#313
I don't have concern for Jill Stein. You shouldn't really reply to sub-threads you haven't read.
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#386
I criticized Stein for quackery and you're trying to make it sound like I criticized her supporters
CreekDog
Aug 2016
#427
My initial post was about civility. You jumped in on the arguments against me.
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#428
stop with the BS. when I criticized Stein you later tried to say I was criticizing her supporters
CreekDog
Aug 2016
#493
The right wing funded Nader we know that...now who do you suppose is paying the
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#323
It could be any right wing group...but the money is coming from somewhere...and the Greens
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#372
I don't think anyone is trying peel those voters away from the green party.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#308
The democratic party IS the big tent of political views. Always has been.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#310
They have a right to criticize however they want. You don't get to censor them.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#404
How bizarre that it has become controversial to suggest "if your want someone's vote, probably you
Attorney in Texas
Aug 2016
#388
Math doesn't offend me. Name calling offends me. You haven't presented any math.
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#425
I don't know what the hell your point is. Noone is sitting on their laurels.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#424
You are going around in circles now. And I am going to call you out on your incivility.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#430
Incivility is not tolerated when it is directed at democrats. The rest are free for plucking.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#435
Key words are Democratic coalition. The green party is not part of that.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#437
Is that why the green party put out attack ads on the democratic nominee?
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#439
I am not saying you are uncivil You are arguing that it's a good idea. I am not sure why.
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#442
I didn't say it was a good idea. What I keep saying is that you don't get to tell people HOW to talk
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#443
I am free to tell people my opinion. It's my opinion that calling people names is silly.
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#445
The only divisiveness is your dictating how people should express themselves.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#452
I am asking people to refrain from name-calling. The name calling is divisive, to be sure.
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#453
This is the last time I repeat this. People have a right to express their
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#499
It is divisive b/c you are defending the green party on a democratic board.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#504
I am not defending the Green party. I am suggesting that being uncivil is not useful.
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#506
My position is not untenable. Yours is, though. You are harassing democrats on a democratic board.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#473
That being civil is not as divisive as not? That good manners are a positive thing?
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#500
People can express their opinions however they want. Get off your high horse.
AgadorSparticus
Aug 2016
#502
Maybe she is more interested in pushing the Dem party more to the left
womanofthehills
Aug 2016
#470
She ran against Obama in 2012, has called him a "war criminal," said he was just like Romney
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#214
Yeah, I'm seeing them in Michigan. She has a LOT of nerve equating HRC with Drumpf.
catbyte
Aug 2016
#27
Wonder where the money is coming from? Nader took Repub money for his last campaign...
Hekate
Aug 2016
#31
Folks are legitimately upset because she is wittingly or unwittingly enabling Trump...
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2016
#317
Your distress over Stein and Trump being called naughty words is such a tell
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#153
I understand the difference between the nomination phase and the actual election.
Gore1FL
Aug 2016
#164
Oh I see. Your outrage at name-calling is election-cycle dependent and applies only to others. Well
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#206
I like democracy, and I also like my right to speak out against right-wing idiots like
DanTex
Aug 2016
#82
you say "Jill Stein never does anything worthwhile" - definitely not true
womanofthehills
Aug 2016
#469
That's like "being nice" to a runaway staph infection. No. You nip that shit in the bud.
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#100
I heard this woman tell Sam Seder the weekend of the 2012 election....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Aug 2016
#159
Not to go off track here, but the MMR vaccine has some questions about its safety.
FighttheFuture
Aug 2016
#216
Stein is an anti-science pandering quack. There. Now we're back on track. I know you were worried.
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#229
I had someone here tell me they actually thought she would be a fine president.
zappaman
Aug 2016
#209
Stein and Nader are a reminder that the far left can be as crazy as the far right.
DanTex
Aug 2016
#221
Fuck that Naderite "Dems are just Repukes" steaming load of bullshit. This is NOT Green Underground.
Maru Kitteh
Aug 2016
#223
Amen! Amen! Thom Hartmann has been saying this same thing for a long, long time -- that Jill Stein
Akamai
Aug 2016
#219
Saw the commerical for the first time locally.. and she is dismissing Trump as just clueless.
Peacetrain
Aug 2016
#222
It is accurate to claim that Stein is the opposition. But spin on if you feel you must.
Squinch
Aug 2016
#239
The Greens declared us the enemy. Jill Stein is running ads against Hillary as we speak.
DanTex
Aug 2016
#243
Still consider it to be bad policy to call everyone else the enemy....
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2016
#252
Based on their actions and who they help...the might as well be a GOP front group but no
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#390
WE have lost due to Green Spoiler who hurt the country and millions of innocent people
Demsrule86
Aug 2016
#490
We need to attract the folks attracted to them by adopting their positions...
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2016
#360
Here's my take: Jill Stein DOES want to see President Trump and all the resulting mayhem...
Still In Wisconsin
Aug 2016
#258
Good point. Some folks are saying that she may not have been able to recertify.
greatlaurel
Aug 2016
#273
Welcome to DU.How did you find this forum, I am always interested in learning that
uppityperson
Aug 2016
#346
Stein is trying to expand the Green Party and to pull the electorate to the left. She isn't trying
Attorney in Texas
Aug 2016
#391
The Minnesota Twins are not the allies of the Chicago Cubs. Yet it is silly to say that the Twins
Attorney in Texas
Aug 2016
#401