2016 Postmortem

BainsBane

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84. "Self-destructive"?

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #72)

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 06:56 PM

Jul 2016

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Bernie has absolutely nothing to do with myself.

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So Bernie is going to endorse. I'm glad. NOW will you get off of his case? [View all] Ken Burch Jul 2016 OP

ok still_one Jul 2016 #1

Thank you. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #2

I never thought it was a right wing plot and I am grateful he is endorsing Hillary. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #3

Same here MynameisBlarney Jul 2016 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #89

They've been talking about joint efforts to defeat Trump since at least mid-June. merrily Jul 2016 #4

Way Past time to get on with that effort. riversedge Jul 2016 #7

Point is, they have already been "on with that effort." merrily Jul 2016 #8

Yes, Hillary has been on the campaign trail hitting hard on Donald. riversedge Jul 2016 #9

So has Bernie. And, Hillary's bought into a good education plan. merrily Jul 2016 #10

I am not riversedge Jul 2016 #12

It's very obvious that you are John Poet Jul 2016 #93

Where on the campaign trail has Bernie been? All I see are speeches and op/eds about the platform. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #33

Yep. And telling Democrats this week how he needs to revolutionize the party. Thereby Squinch Jul 2016 #80

He has always said defeating Republicans and defeating Trump is important. merrily Jul 2016 #91

And, he hasn't done it yet scscholar Jul 2016 #51

Maybe you don't know this yet, but John Poet Jul 2016 #94

Sanders has been insulting Dems and Clinton since way before then, non stop. One doesn't have seabeyond Jul 2016 #16

Sanders was my primary choice, I'm a Democrat. Your verbiage is insulting and out of date. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #22

To state that Sanders has insulted and attacked dems for a long time is not saying ALL dem agree seabeyond Jul 2016 #24

Then why do you speak in the plural 'insult us and we respond' instead of in the sigular and for Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #32

He insult Democrats, plural... Which makes it an "us"... If we do not support him. seabeyond Jul 2016 #37

He never insulted anyone at all. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #73

False BainsBane Jul 2016 #87

+1 AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #109

He insulted us. Often, consistently and a hell of a lot more than Republicans. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #88

Despite your failure to get off Bernie's case Chasstev365 Jul 2016 #103

Good. I am a believer that we all have the right to make our personal choices when it comes to votin seabeyond Jul 2016 #104

Second sentence of yours. Inevitably it is a fail when you assign motive to me. You are wrong. seabeyond Jul 2016 #38

Third sentence. No Sanaders did not win the Democratic states. He won a few. Clinton won more. No seabeyond Jul 2016 #42

I did not say he won them all it is self evident that he did not, but you are saying Democrats did Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #52

No. I did not say Democrats didnt vote for Sanders. That would be stupid, wrong and not factual. seabeyond Jul 2016 #55

I'm just as much a Democrat as you are Ken Burch Jul 2016 #100

I have never question you or others being Democrats. I do not do that. You two keep making statement seabeyond Jul 2016 #102

When you use the word "Democrats" as if you speak for all Dems as a group, you do. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #105

"as if". Right there. You are creating your own story that has nothing to do with me. seabeyond Jul 2016 #106

It takes two Cary Jul 2016 #79

Yeah... well. Except no one said you are not Democrats, so your post makes no sense. Squinch Jul 2016 #81

OK. Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #5

He STILL hasn't done it, yet ... and he's taken FAR too long to do it. But hey, keep sounding like SFnomad Jul 2016 #6

When he does. He still hasn't done it yet. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #11

Too little, too late caquillo Jul 2016 #13

Never thought or said he was a right wing plot. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #14

I never heard any Hillary supporters say Sanders' campaign was a right-wing plot SharonClark Jul 2016 #41

I don't recall it happening. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #45

Sanders isn't the only one who has aligned with the right on some issues, John Poet Jul 2016 #97

they might have been referring to some of his supporters use of CT DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #113

No one said it--you are right pandr32 Jul 2016 #62

Of course no one ever said that, but it sounds so dramatic, doesn't it? I am guessing that Squinch Jul 2016 #83

If he doesn't attack Dems and Clinton, then we will not call him out. Are you ready to stop with seabeyond Jul 2016 #15

Come on, you know that's not gonna happen. NWCorona Jul 2016 #17

People react to what Sanders says. It is on his shoulder, he gets to own it. He doesn't get to say seabeyond Jul 2016 #19

Did I say life works that way? NWCorona Jul 2016 #20

"Bernie could have endorsed from jump and people would still be hating." seabeyond Jul 2016 #21

You didn't prove your point by quoting me. NWCorona Jul 2016 #23

It isn't unreasonable suggesting whatever Sanders does people will diss him because they are "haters seabeyond Jul 2016 #27

If you inferred that I meant everyone when I said "people" that's your problem NWCorona Jul 2016 #34

"no matter what Bernie does there will be people who hate him" I got it. That is what I addressed. seabeyond Jul 2016 #46

Please. All the pointless Bernie threads here didn’t go away NWCorona Jul 2016 #50

No they did not. Sanders kept getting in front of the camera and saying shit that we responded to. seabeyond Jul 2016 #54

Thanks for agreeing that they are pointless threads and proving my point. NWCorona Jul 2016 #56

Lordy, lol. I do not get why people play this game. Whatever. seabeyond Jul 2016 #57

You really seem to dig self-validation. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #68

Maybe NWCorona Jul 2016 #69

Lol, coming from you! Nt Logical Jul 2016 #120

You say that but your smears on Bernie in this thread or elsewhere virtually never cite anthing he Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #25

Many of us have repeatedly had specific conversation addressing what Sanders says. Now we are going seabeyond Jul 2016 #28

Bernie Sanders co-founded what has grown to be the largest Democratic Caucus in the US Congress. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #39

I am addressing today, and what Sanders says today. I am not fighting the primary, like I did during seabeyond Jul 2016 #44

Since it's still OK to review records, Sanders is on record opposing DOMA over states rights. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #31

How does that relate to anything I said? You drag that up because I am gay, not because of Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #36

First of all, I don't know you from Adam. I didn't post anything because of any characteristic. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #58

My favorite: "It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said" seabeyond Jul 2016 #59

Yes, and I never thought it was a right-wing plot. auntpurl Jul 2016 #18

If Clinton is "not the nominee until the convention votes" as some argue... BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #26

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #29

I never was on his case rock Jul 2016 #30

Not until it happens... Orsino Jul 2016 #35

"at least a token prison term for his daring to oppose the anointed." seabeyond Jul 2016 #48

You don't see the irony in your own post, do you? Squinch Jul 2016 #86

this is passive aggressive....let's talk *after* he walks the walk. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2016 #40

He wasn't really hated for delaying endorsement, he's hated for his political stripes. NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #43

No one considered Sanders an "evil" Socialist. seabeyond Jul 2016 #49

Some of us never considered him a socialist at all. okasha Jul 2016 #112

Yes, since he will finally be living up to his promises. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #47

I for one will be happy to welcome him on board. Better late than never. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #60

Depends on what he does next liberal N proud Jul 2016 #61

The Clinton campaign's stated goal wasn't to defeat him, but to "disqualify" him. arcane1 Jul 2016 #63

"Clinton campaign's stated goal wasn't to defeat him, but to "disqualify" him." Where was this seabeyond Jul 2016 #65

this is like asking 'have you stopped beating your wife' La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #64

That is one of their favorite questions. Squinch Jul 2016 #85

What's with all the strawmen around here today? n/t JTFrog Jul 2016 #66

Sorrow. Disappointment. Lashing out. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #67

I'm not feeling any sorrow. Just asking for self-destructive behavior to stop. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #72

who are these mythical 'you guys'? I am not doing anything to hurt Bernie. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #74

By that phrase, I meant those who've continued to demand Bernie endorse HRC and suspend Ken Burch Jul 2016 #75

no, nor is there a big issue of people persecuting Bernie by asking him to do the right thing. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #78

"Self-destructive"? BainsBane Jul 2016 #84

Self-destructive to the nominee's chances. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #92

Hillary has been extremely concillitatory BainsBane Jul 2016 #101

I know she has been. She has my thanks. You should join her in that. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #107

I do not for a second dispute your right to support him in the primary BainsBane Jul 2016 #108

When the pudding is on the table, sure. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #70

I could be wrong, but I don't remember anyone calling MineralMan Jul 2016 #71

Well, there are plenty of examples of DUers John Poet Jul 2016 #95

There was/are a lot of Sanders supporters that are rw'ers, and baggers, and Libertarians. seabeyond Jul 2016 #96

Nope. He'll stay on my shit list just like Nader does. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2016 #76

I am looking forward to them MFM008 Jul 2016 #77

Actually, all the HRC supporters like Senator Sanders cosmicone Jul 2016 #82

not gladly. kicking, screaming and with considerate gnashing of teeth but hell DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #114

I don't see much difference in policy between the two cosmicone Jul 2016 #115

The post was, at first, a kind of joke but the more I thought about it the more I realized it rang DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #118

I hear you n/t cosmicone Jul 2016 #119

Why does this matter to you? Miles Archer Jul 2016 #90

It's not about me. It's about making sure we win the election. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #99

I applaud your optimism. Miles Archer Jul 2016 #110

I have been officially off Bernie's case since California Buzz cook Jul 2016 #98

If this isn't re-fighting the primary I don't know what is MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #111

You're right. This is a silly OP, and it's exactly as you've described it. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #116

Depends on what he actually does.... Adrahil Jul 2016 #117

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You do realize you'll probably get banned for having a posting name Ken Burch Jul 2016 #122

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