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Chan790

(20,176 posts)
22. Kaine is a terrible choice.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jun 2016

He doesn't merely not motivate progressives...the more they get to know him, the more he's going to confirm for them everything they've ever accused Hillary of being true. Tied to the hip with Wall St. Lacking true progressive values. Willing to compromise on anything and get entangled with any convenient ally, no matter how repugnant. Insincere about social justice and at-heart a morally-conservative Democrat. I don't need to tell you what progressives have against Hillary, you've been hearing it for years. I've been saying it for years...I've been critical of her since I lived in Yonkers and worked in Brooklyn.

Unlikely worst case scenario though, it creates a schism between working-class Hispanics, who tend to be more traditional and morally-conservative, and progressives, whose ideology is iconoclastic and anti-conservative. Do we really need a reason to pit two ascending social-groups of the Democratic coalition at each others throats over a mediocre VP choice?

A Hillary serious about unity never considers Kaine for a millisecond. I know Hillary isn't dumb so I assume this has to be a trial balloon by those in the party leadership that want Kaine on the ticket, trying to demonstrate that he would be a popular and effective choice.

He's not either.

She should go with Brown, Warren or Perez. Even Castro would be preferable...he's at-least charismatic enough to woo progressives, even if he's nothing of the sort. Clinton/Kaine isn't just a strictly center-right ticket...it's one with a severe likeability deficit.

I prefer Warren but I suspect she picks Tim Kaine. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #1
Castro is about ready as Rubio would be. Propped up more by the media and institution than anything. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #12
Kaine is pro TPP, is against abortion personally (does not favour overturning Roe) but does AntiBank Jun 2016 #48
It won't be Cory Booker. Qutzupalotl Jun 2016 #2
Ha ha omg that's true auntpurl Jun 2016 #44
Nah, won't be Warren or Castro and shouldn't be. Kaine is the best in this group. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #3
Kaine is a terrible choice. Chan790 Jun 2016 #22
Gender balance? zenabby Jun 2016 #28
No one complained about "Gender Balance" with 44 Presidents and Vice Presidents. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #35
Shouldn't complain and won't complain are 2 different things. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #38
Knuckle-draggers are either not ever voting for any woman OR Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #43
It should never be an issue. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #45
Likely it would be tim Kaine drray23 Jun 2016 #4
Wasn't Castro the Mayor of San Antonio... Deuce Jun 2016 #14
yes he was. drray23 Jun 2016 #16
Part-time or not, he got A LOT accomplished for the people of San Antonio that has 1 million people. BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #33
I really like him, but he is a bit young...needs another elected position libdem4life Jun 2016 #36
Tom Perez. eom tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #5
Tom Perez would be good charlyvi Jun 2016 #6
Kaine seems to be a really good man, but Hortensis Jun 2016 #7
I'd go with Xavier Becerra, personally. Over 20 years in Congress and a pretty solid liberal record. BlueStater Jun 2016 #8
Me too. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #10
Is Becerra's district safe for democrats? Deuce Jun 2016 #15
Other -Xavier Becerra lunamagica Jun 2016 #9
I'm in for Castro might make the repukes have to spend money in TX gopiscrap Jun 2016 #11
It was always going to be Tim Kaine. bunnies Jun 2016 #13
+1 Hiraeth Jun 2016 #30
I'm going to presume to speak for some fellow Texans here, okasha Jun 2016 #17
Castro is an empty suit and an obvious pandering choice. BlueStater Jun 2016 #32
He's a pragmatic choice. okasha Jun 2016 #46
kaine is a very boring pick. i hope its not him La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #18
No idea, but Kaine seems completely worthless. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #19
Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx EffieBlack Jun 2016 #20
Kaine is "safest" so I'd bet on him Orangepeel Jun 2016 #21
I wad thinking same thing. DCBob Jun 2016 #26
According to the AP from unnamed sources, so I'm not buying it just yet. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #23
Good point. nt Quixote1818 Jun 2016 #25
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #27
My top pick is Sheldon Whitehouse. HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #24
X marks the spot - the VP slot. Xavier Becerra for VP. Metric System Jun 2016 #29
May end up decided by 'chemistry.' elleng Jun 2016 #31
I heard Castro does not speak Spanish. Not that it matters but it may matter to some Latinos. Anyway demosincebirth Jun 2016 #34
On probably lesser known elements of his background, libdem4life Jun 2016 #37
Perez Mz Pip Jun 2016 #39
My vote goes to Kaine! But I'm a big fan of keychains. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #40
Why did you mention keychains? NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #47
I am betting on Warren. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #41
If it's one of those three, I think Kaine would be the best choice Rochester Jun 2016 #42
What do we know about Castro? What's his stance on abortion? B Calm Jun 2016 #49
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