2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: This primary solidified the Log-Cabinization of the Social Left [View all]BumRushDaShow
(129,683 posts)And there is your problem. When historically (for centuries), the "priorities" of certain groups have been put on the back-burner, in a similar fashion to those told to go sit "at the back of the bus", then those arguing on behalf of those "priorities" becomes germane due to chronically being told to "wait" or being told that certain "solutions" that have already been tried in the past and failed, should be given another chance... because. "We know better than you."
And you all continue to make these dismissive statements despite posters contrary to your views, telling you that we are very much aware of all the pressing issues that impact "humanity" and that we in fact agree with them needing a solution. However because of our history here in this country, we know that grandiose "solutions" will not be had in short order without realistic planning on how to overcome such problems, and over-focus on one category with simplistic jingoism while dismissing other categories as a "pet project" or "identity politics" or some "turd way, DLC GOP-like conspiracy" to stop a certain candidate from gaining a high public office, only illustrates this viewpoint as one made from the position of paranoia.
Meanwhile, many of us belong to groups whose ancestors have been through this type of struggle for centuries and have battled over and over and over for rights that the distaff side have never had to demand. The default position that "all boats rise" upon solving economic issues completely ignores the "how high" part due to where one is starting from.
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To address your strange analogy -- No, economic justice will not solve the problem of someone who is f'ed up enough to throw a Molotov cocktail through the window. Obviously that would be a priority.
But, let's say someone who loses it because they lost a job and are homeless and "goes postal" and is desperate and goes around indiscriminately shooting people regardless of color. Wouldn't that be a momentary priority too?
And every time it happens, many groups of all persuasions, have risen to the challenge to take it on, but the issue is whether one is empathetic to the complexities of the causes, which is something that those making the simplistic "economic justice" argument seem to refuse to deal with, or whether one wants to engage in a meaningful way to acknowledge the complexity, without dismissively minimizing what others are saying over and over.
You continue to miss the point because of a rampant lack of empathy, something that used to be a trait of liberal Democrats, but has now been hijacked by those with a more narrow agenda. In your above scenario, the "dead" would be an assumed fact of both races, but upon the "burial", something else may occur - i.e., the fact that someone black might be steered away from a de facto "whites only" cemetery - a final insult to the injury, and this is something that many cannot even conceive, and is something that the white dead would not experience.
For many of us, race is the imposed extra overlay that impacts every single aspect of our lives, and that is the lens that many of us speak through.