2016 Postmortem

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133. That was one of them. Ignoring the black vote in early primaries . . .

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Wed Jun 15, 2016, 02:38 AM

Jun 2016

was another huge one.

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Hillary Clinton Is A HARD SELL To Millennials [View all] Segami Jun 2016 OP

An extremely 'hard sell' to say the least... Segami Jun 2016 #1

Millennials aren't the only people who vote... Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #5

And millennials aren't the only ones bvf Jun 2016 #24

I'm not a Millennial by a long shot RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #27

She's not a hard sell SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #70

Gee, what an inspiring message! n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #71

No SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #90

There the least to vote bigdarryl Jun 2016 #44

Millennials hardly ever vote workinclasszero Jun 2016 #46

Lol lancer78 Jun 2016 #56

No response. Marr Jun 2016 #72

And turnout 30-35% less whatthehey Jun 2016 #96

Don't listen to this crap Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #85

No she isn't. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #92

That's presumptive nominee Hillary Clinton. Metric System Jun 2016 #2

I took everybody off Ignore yesterday SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #3

Buh-bye! Segami Jun 2016 #4

Your random caps OP's didn't work and now Bernie has lost the nomination. Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #8

Neither did your ignorance of bvf Jun 2016 #28

Will you survive the transparency vacations being turned back on? AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #33

Hillary wins DC Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #38

Wow, looking at several Hillary supporters T pages... AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #47

Once you leave, Segami, Hillary will be an EASY SELL RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #31

thats great larkrake Jun 2016 #135

+1000 eom noiretextatique Jun 2016 #196

LOL! It's going to be just peachy! bvf Jun 2016 #201

you might get a hide with... Matt_R Jun 2016 #203

Can I be on your Ignore List? Herman4747 Jun 2016 #12

Sorry, Herman SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #37

I will keep them off swhisper1 Jun 2016 #66

And Bernie was a hard sell to the rest of us. We did not buy. We have more money than millennials. bravenak Jun 2016 #6

Oh so more money buys the election? interesting azurnoir Jun 2016 #22

Results... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #25

Interesting alert bvf Jun 2016 #32

I never alert- it shows their ignorance and obsessive nature to keep it up swhisper1 Jun 2016 #68

If the alert didn't care for that, Go Vols Jun 2016 #202

"We have more money than millennials" and we intend to keep it that way! Vote Hillary! DebDoo Jun 2016 #57

It is always that way because we have been around longer bravenak Jun 2016 #60

That's basically the GOP position on social programs, in a nutshell. Marr Jun 2016 #82

Oh? So my black struggling self should pay for my own education and the education bravenak Jun 2016 #86

Again, thanks for stating the standard GOP argument against social programs. Marr Jun 2016 #87

I'm paying for mine. They can too. They aint no better than me that I should pay their way bravenak Jun 2016 #91

We should end welfare, WIC... everything like that then, right? /nt Marr Jun 2016 #98

Why would you say that? bravenak Jun 2016 #100

Because it would be a social program, obviously. Marr Jun 2016 #103

"His plan taxes poor folks to provide these 'free' programs." Loudestlib Jun 2016 #104

An increase in payroll taxes forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #109

So, it's ignorance then? Loudestlib Jun 2016 #113

Yes, it's often hard to tell. bvf Jun 2016 #116

His plan for free college tuition does not tax poor folks... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #160

How about a rebate for those that can prove they completed a 2 or 4 year program. Matt_R Jun 2016 #204

I could get behind that bravenak Jun 2016 #206

If you've been to college bvf Jun 2016 #111

You need to stop minding mine and tend to yourn bravenak Jun 2016 #112

Mine is fine. bvf Jun 2016 #114

You still aint mindin yourn bravenak Jun 2016 #123

Reading that, all I can think of bvf Jun 2016 #175

Oh, not this again. chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #141

results from the alert DrDan Jun 2016 #149

I thought you liked Bernie noiretextatique Jun 2016 #197

Millennials aren't the party base they think they are Tarc Jun 2016 #7

That pobably was his biggest mistake lunamagica Jun 2016 #10

It was his biggest mistake by far workinclasszero Jun 2016 #49

That was one of them. Ignoring the black vote in early primaries . . . brush Jun 2016 #133

For such an oppressed and discriminated group of people notadmblnd Jun 2016 #159

Ahhh . . . just knowing how to use the power of the vote. brush Jun 2016 #174

I said exactly what I said. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #193

And what you said has a dog whistle quality to it. Nice to know where you're coming from. brush Jun 2016 #194

Only a true bigot can hear dog whistles. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #195

Yeah, I hear dog whistles pretty good, being African American and all. brush Jun 2016 #207

So you say. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #208

Nah, people can be aware of bigoted thinking and it always smells the same uponit7771 Jun 2016 #218

Voting? uponit7771 Jun 2016 #217

Get back to us in 2020, and 2024, and 2028 ... Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #41

Funny thing how time works; they won't be 20-somethings by then Tarc Jun 2016 #48

Yeah, but they will still be wise to the propaganda. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #51

Oh, you. Tarc Jun 2016 #63

They soon will be. /nt Marr Jun 2016 #83

'fraid not Tarc Jun 2016 #101

Milennial PoC were not a Hillary demographic. Marr Jun 2016 #106

PoC overall were Tarc Jun 2016 #166

And my point was that milennials will soon be the party. Marr Jun 2016 #176

Unfortunately, they will not be Tarc Jun 2016 #178

You're argument is that the younger generation will not replace you? Marr Jun 2016 #188

I'll give you a hint Tarc Jun 2016 #189

I must disagree. chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #142

exactly - he played to a demographic that finds it inconvenient to actually vote - not a DrDan Jun 2016 #150

She's also a hard sell to a surprising number of older voters. SheilaT Jun 2016 #9

Well, of course. She seeks no major fundamental improvements... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #11

Her positions are different only by degrees than Sanders' brush Jun 2016 #16

through THIS Congress, true. Qutzupalotl Jun 2016 #21

Yes, it all depends on what Congress the president has to work with. brush Jun 2016 #42

Anything Hillary poses would not get through the Herman4747 Jun 2016 #55

neither will her policies get past progressives swhisper1 Jun 2016 #61

That's true too. nt Herman4747 Jun 2016 #62

If it is Trump she ends up debating, she will win hands down. I never doubted this swhisper1 Jun 2016 #64

There are ways. Obama faced the same obstacles and got a lot done. brush Jun 2016 #89

They are far apart philosophically. He's a Unionist/Socialist/Worker libdem4life Jun 2016 #97

Ahhh . . . she's the one who appointed a union rep to the platform committee. brush Jun 2016 #110

makes me suspicious of that rep. Did he play pattycake? larkrake Jun 2016 #126

So? I know what a Token is...I'd guess there's not much difference here. libdem4life Jun 2016 #179

Did Sanders? brush Jun 2016 #181

Did Sanders what? He has marched with workers his entire life, AFAIK libdem4life Jun 2016 #182

OK. I know he appointed Cornell West to the platform committee. How about a union rep? brush Jun 2016 #183

I have no idea. That would requre a Google Search. And also, libdem4life Jun 2016 #184

they are nothing alike and they have never been friends. she has intentionally gone rogue larkrake Jun 2016 #137

one has 41 senate endorsements, the other has 1 DrDan Jun 2016 #163

Thanks. You make my case, to a tee. How many of Bernie's type got libdem4life Jun 2016 #180

he's done . . . DrDan Jun 2016 #191

He's 74 now. Even he didn't think he could get his own plan through in his first term politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #50

Will you ever stop bashing Hillary? upaloopa Jun 2016 #13

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #15

She's beating Trump 12 points in the latest Bloomberg poll. charlyvi Jun 2016 #14

Don't go around destroying the OP's nonsense qdouble Jun 2016 #17

I know. charlyvi Jun 2016 #78

Who did the other 29% poll for? Matt_R Jun 2016 #170

so who did the rest go for? Matt_R Jun 2016 #171

An article from March... no Clinton vs Trump comparison... and they're high fiving each other vintx Jun 2016 #212

Well... there you go with facts and shit.. uponit7771 Jun 2016 #219

They can't make the campaign about issues so they will have to resort to the usual beauty contest NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #18

More like....."No" Sale. yourout Jun 2016 #19

Bloomberg poll released TODAY. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #20

not impressed. of course she is more likable than Trump--duh larkrake Jun 2016 #127

endless conspiracy theories that are opinions. millennials are not the exclusive tools of bernie msongs Jun 2016 #23

no they are not, and the polls indicate for every one Sanders supporter that won't support Hillary, still_one Jun 2016 #30

We're damn serious, Maddi. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2016 #26

and I suppose Bernie would be an easy "sell" to Hillary supporters. Those who are having issues still_one Jun 2016 #29

That nonsense should be a hard sell to anyone with a functioning cerebral cortex. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #34

This Millennial supported her since 2007 and I prefer the term "Gen Y" eom LLStarks Jun 2016 #35

Well then that's it. Fold the tents, it's all over. Wednesdays Jun 2016 #115

That's funny Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #36

Good thing Donald Trump is an even harder one ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #39

The Millennials I know flat out loathe Hillary. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #40

Who gives a fuck what they think half these brats most of the time don't vote bigdarryl Jun 2016 #81

Wrong. These kids are politically aware and voted. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #186

You have to love how welcoming noiretextatique Jun 2016 #198

Yep. These "kids" give me hope. They see through Clintonian bullshit. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #199

Shes even a Harder Sell to those of us Not Millennials who have lived through KoKo Jun 2016 #43

Agree 100 percent. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #53

"There's an old saying in Tennessee..." RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #67

... vintx Jun 2016 #213

Who cares? Why spend time and money on people who don't vote? Sancho Jun 2016 #45

People who don't vote don't scare anyone even if the internet amps their voices up a lot workinclasszero Jun 2016 #52

Isn't that what W said? seabeckind Jun 2016 #74

You can do things for them, but they don't vote. Sancho Jun 2016 #76

I've seen her judgement and arrived at a different conclusion. seabeckind Jun 2016 #102

Nope...Bernie does it often... Sancho Jun 2016 #105

It's a matter of comprehension. seabeckind Jun 2016 #143

Those of us who studied the proposals didn't like them... Sancho Jun 2016 #146

A lot like social security in the 30s. seabeckind Jun 2016 #147

sorry, but my union studied Bernie's education proposals extensively... Sancho Jun 2016 #151

So what investment fund did the study? seabeckind Jun 2016 #152

Here's a start..it's an old story... Sancho Jun 2016 #153

Oh cute... a Gish Gallop. seabeckind Jun 2016 #154

No..it makes a big difference according to accountants. Sancho Jun 2016 #156

BS. n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #157

That was just ONE issue too...Bernie had lots of other poor proposals. Sancho Jun 2016 #161

Ok, I'll try again. seabeckind Jun 2016 #164

That's not true... Sancho Jun 2016 #168

The very label is disengenuous.. brooklynite Jun 2016 #173

they forget with anti bernie hate and trip over the line larkrake Jun 2016 #128

I doubt that they are out to acquire a dose of Trump... Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #54

hard sell? enid602 Jun 2016 #58

No worries. She'll get 'em Rose Siding Jun 2016 #59

"We're building our campaign a different way" azmom Jun 2016 #65

A radically different way. Marr Jun 2016 #75

And how hard a sell is FrankenTrump? RBInMaine Jun 2016 #69

Nonsense. n/t Lucinda Jun 2016 #73

Yawn LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #77

Then they will have to buy The Donald! It's their future. Walk away Jun 2016 #79

There are six millenial voters in my family Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #80

millennials have not lived through years of her crap yet, but they will find out larkrake Jun 2016 #129

Not when the other display case only has Trump in it. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #84

Tell the Millennials to sit down and shut up. Shemp Howard Jun 2016 #88

I have to wonde about anyone that has to be sold on HRC Gman Jun 2016 #93

You mean the ones that have all the time in the world for rallies but none for voting? n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #94

I disagree Buzz cook Jun 2016 #95

Why listen to Hillary's speeches? She rarely says anything substantial in them. w4rma Jun 2016 #108

It seems like you haven't nt Buzz cook Jun 2016 #124

I have. I stopped because she wasn't telling me substantive information. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #125

She doesn't say anything. I still dont know her policies, they seem to change larkrake Jun 2016 #130

Me neither. My expectation is Clinton is telling her donors the truth while lying to the public. w4rma Jun 2016 #172

If Hillary makes any concessions to Bernie for the youth vote oasis Jun 2016 #99

She wants the job, it's HER responsibility to reach out WolverineDG Jun 2016 #119

If she's gotta reach out, why the hell make any concessions to Bernie? oasis Jun 2016 #120

that is what reaching out is-duh larkrake Jun 2016 #131

forget it, he has a revolution to run and a republican to dis-embowel larkrake Jun 2016 #132

It's called "politicking" for a reason WolverineDG Jun 2016 #190

Bernie had better make himself useful. He's already pushing oasis Jun 2016 #192

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #220

And to anyone that's been paying attention to her policies. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #107

It's Wednesday! brooklynite Jun 2016 #117

She's a hard sell to this 70 year old! williesgirl Jun 2016 #118

Well we all have to grow up at some point and realize we can't get what we want La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #121

wrong, it never pays to Settle. you go ahead tho larkrake Jun 2016 #134

lol ok La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #169

Well, it's their choice. Beacool Jun 2016 #122

How much of Bernie's appeal to young people was about helping with college debt? Justice Jun 2016 #136

How about college price gouging? seabeckind Jun 2016 #145

look at the time............. MFM008 Jun 2016 #138

Still YELLING at us I see. Thanks for your INPUT. Hekate Jun 2016 #139

She's a hard sell to anyone who is not a hawk. Vattel Jun 2016 #140

and generation X, and boomers, and geezers.... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #144

THIS vintx Jun 2016 #214

Poll of millennial voters shows clear shift toward Democrats, away from Trump Gothmog Jun 2016 #148

life under a trump presidency will be a "hard reality" that doesn't go away beachbum bob Jun 2016 #155

Why the hell do you think the media spent a year pumping Trump up with a billion in free advertising Fumesucker Jun 2016 #158

i bet most millenials runaway hero Jun 2016 #162

Pretty telling. BlueStater Jun 2016 #165

Not really I think two-thirds of them will vote for her. book_worm Jun 2016 #167

Oooh, an "I won't vote" threat. Darb Jun 2016 #177

Yes using sales jargon is appropriate felix_numinous Jun 2016 #185

+1 Go Vols Jun 2016 #209

Truth is Hillary is a hard sell to most of America pinebox Jun 2016 #187

Until sensible people imagine a Prez Trump. MichiganVote Jun 2016 #200

Sensible people never wanted Clinton as the nominee. bvf Jun 2016 #205

Reminds me of the propaganda leading up to the illegal Iraq invasion RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #215

Wrong. Most see them both as snake oil salesmen pinebox Jun 2016 #210

This is going to be one long nightmare of an election season. vintx Jun 2016 #211

Great hit piece by RW Republican and a Libertarian Fla Dem Jun 2016 #216