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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Refusal to accept Clinton as the Nominee is Rooted in Misogyny and Racism [View all]bonemachine
(757 posts)313. the problem with the assertion is that
The author doesn't really indicate what they would do to make it more fair, so it's impossible to judge the factuality of their statement.
Unarguably, with what we can all admit is an amazingly unlevel playing field, Sanders performed far above expectations.
If we really levelled that playing field, say, with publicly funded campaigns and open primaries it's not unreasonble to suggest that Sanders could have overcome Clinton's significant name recognition advantage.
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Refusal to accept Clinton as the Nominee is Rooted in Misogyny and Racism [View all]
bravenak
Jun 2016
OP
Bingo. I found that among my poker friends. One quietly admitted that HRC is not evil incarnate and
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#296
if you truly mean far hard right, you are delving into white nationalists who would NEVER support a
AntiBank
Jun 2016
#310
I did read it....But all that was really needed to know was the offensive headline
Armstead
Jun 2016
#243
I don't want Warren as the VP pick. I would prefer Sec Julian Castro. But I trust
underthematrix
Jun 2016
#12
Castro is about ready as Rubio would be. Propped up more by the media and institution than anything.
TheBlackAdder
Jun 2016
#26
Yet, you love citing scores of their articles when it fits your narrative.
TheBlackAdder
Jun 2016
#193
I am so glad you've explained how comparing women's hair color isn't sexist at all. Truly. nt
msanthrope
Jun 2016
#145
That you refer to women by their hair color is not something I would brag about, but you go right
msanthrope
Jun 2016
#144
you asked if anyone would refer to men in that manner I replied I didn't refer to any women
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#149
The article isn't about people who don't support Hillary, it's about people who DENY THAT SHE WON.
Lord Magus
Jun 2016
#299
I'll accept that you have a link but call the claim absolute bullshit. But you have every right to
floriduck
Jun 2016
#5
Then I guess your call is bullshit too. Everyone makes mistakes at some point.
floriduck
Jun 2016
#8
Saying 'rooted' goes too far, but there is an element of that in the tone-deafness.
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#9
Reminds me of my first pass at grad school, where I began to have my doubts about ...
Hekate
Jun 2016
#125
That is a very broad generalization, which indicates a lack of critical thinking.
tabasco
Jun 2016
#13
Criticizing PoC who vote for her as having "Stockholm Syndrome" certainly is. nt
msanthrope
Jun 2016
#33
the racist part is about dismissing the fact that she won largely because of the margins
qdouble
Jun 2016
#41
Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citigroup, UBS, and millions in cash have much more to do
think
Jun 2016
#15
"When people say that Clinton stole the election or that Sanders is the true winner,
sufrommich
Jun 2016
#19
Not in my case. I just don't like him period. But, I don't like angry white men.
leftofcool
Jun 2016
#63
I don't like angry men either, black or white. Interesting how you added race to it. nt
Autumn
Jun 2016
#74
I was thinking about the issues. But you are right, it doesn't really matter which site. nt
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#71
It can be a bit difficult since she is constantly flipping but I assure you that I know where she
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#91
Here here!! She has been calling me a racist for a year (?) and I am a mixed race.
jillan
Jun 2016
#103
As another poster said, this article is genius propaganda knowing liberals are terrified of...
MadDAsHell
Jun 2016
#136
IMO a rather lazy catch all appeals to the emotions no critical thinking required
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#142
People posting in ths very thread did not bother to 'read' it. Just complain.
bravenak
Jun 2016
#221
Funny how automatically you seem to think I wrote this or completely agree with anything
bravenak
Jun 2016
#161
I suppose just not agreeing with the candidate's positions is out of the question.
Vinca
Jun 2016
#159
Accepting that she won a rigged process is another necessary step in our evolution.
Orsino
Jun 2016
#177
So you just decided not to actually read the linked piece and instead let me know
bravenak
Jun 2016
#190
Yes, those refusers love her policies, love election irregularities, but hate her gender and race.
Scuba
Jun 2016
#182
Why do some hillary supporters continue to try to stir up shit? Like this OP? Why????? nt
Logical
Jun 2016
#194
So, in case you didn't know, here is the list of DEMOCRATIC Senators who voted yay.
MoonRiver
Jun 2016
#210
Have no idea why discussion of Hillary and US internal politics gets turned into anti Israel screed
bravenak
Jun 2016
#240
Not enough will leave and we will need to bring in moderates to make up for you guys who do leave
bravenak
Jun 2016
#235
I am pretty positive that many of the 'dead enders' are not really on our side anyway
bravenak
Jun 2016
#239
Agreed and that applies to many topics, a lot of us overlap somewhere in our progressive ideology.
Rex
Jun 2016
#269
So it's a sort of low simmering racism/misogyny, that will evaporate after the convention?
Marr
Jun 2016
#257
Exactly. If it's this bad among Sanders supporters, imagine what it's like among non-liberals. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2016
#295
Beg Sanders. The winner get on her knees and .... BEG Sanders. Ya. Pretty damn disrespectful
seabeyond
Jun 2016
#302
No it's not. In fact, if HRC were a man with the same resume and the same PROBLEMS, he never
jonno99
Jun 2016
#305
Hillary got more Votes. And, a huge majority of those votes come from POC and Women
Cha
Jun 2016
#321
Please stop dividing people by race, gender or whatever a narrow mind can possibly contrive ...
slipslidingaway
Jun 2016
#323
Please stop acting like the cause of racial division is black people discusding racial issues
bravenak
Jun 2016
#324
Never said that, just comparing the "History Made" of Clinton campaign, which many are promoting ...
slipslidingaway
Jun 2016
#330
Maybe some segments of the population have had too much power over others for too long and
bravenak
Jun 2016
#332
Can you imagine a 20 year old, poor Jewish man chaining himself to a black person ...
slipslidingaway
Jun 2016
#337
They who? here's my take what has deveeloped this campaign as I've already stated
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#338
You know what? Not everything is about you personally and I actually avoid getting into it with you
bravenak
Jun 2016
#340
No it quite obviously wasn't about me personally but I outlined how I was affected personally
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#341
Bull. It's rooted in a love of traditional FDR style Democratic values, which get little support
highprincipleswork
Jun 2016
#326
FDR who left the military segregated and left blacks and domestics (women) out of social security?
bravenak
Jun 2016
#327
Get ready for James Comey to be labeled the biggest sexist in the history of men. n/t
yodermon
Jun 2016
#348
Of course, it couldn't be her right-of-center politics that doesn't sell well
NorthCarolina
Jun 2016
#353
I agree with the author except for her claim that open primaries would be "fairer."
SunSeeker
Jun 2016
#366