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ismnotwasm

(41,919 posts)
22. This:
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:49 PM
Jun 2016
Before I go on, let me put in a mandatory #notallberniebros statement. The vast majority of Bernie Sanders supporters accept the election results. Bernie Sanders, his campaign, and his supporters made a serious and formidable opponent to Clinton and although he came in second, by running he was able to pull Clinton to the left on a handful of important policy positions, will have a say in the democratic party’s new platform, and showed that candidates that run to the left have a viable position with a lot of popular support behind it, something that could encourage future leftish candidates. His supporters might be disappointed that he won’t be our next president, but most understand that Clinton won legitimately. The vast majority of Sanders supporters will likely be supporting Clinton in the fall. These are not the Sanders supporters that I am talking about in this piece.


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These same people who ask for a fairer election want to tip the election in favor of white male voters. They believe that Sanders’ voters, which are made up disproportionally of white men, should count for more than the votes of people who voted for Clinton. In a piece this week at The Daily Beast, Barret Holmes Pitner wrote about the white entitlement of Sanders supporters, saying that “the entitlement to believe that you should always win allowed them to overlook how the system in many ways has always been unjustly rigged in their favor because they’re white.” I couldn’t agree more. This is the same entitlement that allows the white, male Sanders voter to believe that his vote should count more than the votes of women and POC who he believes are voting only out of ignorance or identity politics. In his mind, only white men are “unbiased” when it comes to politics, so his vote should be considered more important. Hillary Clinton may have gotten more votes overall, but she lost the white male vote and that’s what really matters. Under that criteria, it makes sense that they would also believe that the superdelegates should override these votes at the convention and give the nomination to Sanders.


Don't forget conspiracy theorism. TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #1
Absolutely bravenak Jun 2016 #3
Absolutely and as basic than misogyny and racism. Hortensis Jun 2016 #230
It has a religiosity about it that I just can't understand bravenak Jun 2016 #251
Oh, yes. Areligious fanaticism. For sure. Hortensis Jun 2016 #256
Bingo. I found that among my poker friends. One quietly admitted that HRC is not evil incarnate and bettyellen Jun 2016 #296
appeal to the far right??? what planet are you on?? AntiBank Jun 2016 #294
AntiBank, Sanders set out to draw from the right Hortensis Jun 2016 #298
if you truly mean far hard right, you are delving into white nationalists who would NEVER support a AntiBank Jun 2016 #310
So was that the reason Sarah lost in 2008? yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #79
She is an idiot who could not even give the name of a newspaper she reads. pnwmom Jun 2016 #102
Uh, you're quoting SNL, not reality. MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #134
That skit was based on a real interview with Katie Couric. pnwmom Jun 2016 #137
Agreed TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #197
This Post liberalmike27 Jun 2016 #129
+1! tecelote Jun 2016 #178
+27 k8conant Jun 2016 #308
McCain was the top of that ticket and he lost WhiteTara Jun 2016 #228
Don't forget pacifism. lostnfound Jun 2016 #185
++ Good esp. considering how Bush and Bill work @ UBS Octafish Jun 2016 #200
Excerpt bravenak Jun 2016 #2
It's the "right kind of votes" thing that still gets me mcar Jun 2016 #56
I found it highly insenstive bravenak Jun 2016 #57
Not from purported progressives mcar Jun 2016 #58
I was offended too. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #96
I agree, it is hard to quit them of this type of thinking bravenak Jun 2016 #97
Not a surprise to me Whimsey Jun 2016 #108
No kidding Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2016 #241
I don't know what your REAL purpose is behind these posts Red Knight Jun 2016 #184
I can totally tell who did not even read the first paragraph bravenak Jun 2016 #191
Oh yes--I read it before I responded. Red Knight Jun 2016 #218
The title was also not written by me bravenak Jun 2016 #223
thank you! ruggerson Jun 2016 #203
blah,blah,blah...blah de fucking da Armstead Jun 2016 #212
We all saw your OP about HRC knowing her place... bettyellen Jun 2016 #219
Guess not. Armstead Jun 2016 #220
You did not even read it if thats what you got out of it. bravenak Jun 2016 #226
I did read it....But all that was really needed to know was the offensive headline Armstead Jun 2016 #243
There there, it will be okay bravenak Jun 2016 #249
I don't need your "there, there's" thank you. Armstead Jun 2016 #250
Aww! It's gonna be fine, you'll see. bravenak Jun 2016 #252
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #284
Are you the FBI? bravenak Jun 2016 #286
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #288
... bravenak Jun 2016 #289
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #290
Still not scared bravenak Jun 2016 #291
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #292
So, Glamrock Jun 2016 #4
Try reading the article linked bravenak Jun 2016 #7
The piece of lancer78 Jun 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #285
It's not an article - it's someone's blog. jillan Jun 2016 #104
So? bravenak Jun 2016 #109
I don't want Warren as the VP pick. I would prefer Sec Julian Castro. But I trust underthematrix Jun 2016 #12
Castro is about ready as Rubio would be. Propped up more by the media and institution than anything. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #26
Please do not compare Castro to Rubio. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #55
Some of the things I have seen of Castro are disturbing... JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #81
Would you link please? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #88
It was in the politico profile JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #95
Ah-Politico--the RW mouthpiece!! riversedge Jun 2016 #168
Yet, you love citing scores of their articles when it fits your narrative. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #193
This was a pretty poor source, and more innuendo than factual. Sancho Jun 2016 #181
Positions? Just a lot of Centrist Happy talk and complaints about the GOP. Armstead Jun 2016 #214
Sounds like he'd fit in perfectly with an HRC admin jack_krass Jun 2016 #344
I agree Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #107
Impressed that a DUer has included Asians as people of color. MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #135
yes, as Viet Namese ... Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #187
Would you ever compare two men in such a manner? nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #28
Ouch! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #53
Of course Glamrock Jun 2016 #90
I am so glad you've explained how comparing women's hair color isn't sexist at all. Truly. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #145
... MoonRiver Jun 2016 #204
I, too, found it very strange athena Jun 2016 #208
I suppose anyone who makes fun of Trump's hair is being inappropriate Armstead Jun 2016 #244
Keep digging. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #245
Thank you. I'll dig as much as I want. Armstead Jun 2016 #246
yes why not? azurnoir Jun 2016 #132
That you refer to women by their hair color is not something I would brag about, but you go right msanthrope Jun 2016 #144
you asked if anyone would refer to men in that manner I replied I didn't refer to any women azurnoir Jun 2016 #149
OMG....You mentioned your hair color! Armstead Jun 2016 #247
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #287
I'm sure that the hypothetical Sanders supporter you reference annavictorious Jun 2016 #49
The point was denying the legitimacy of her victory Whimsey Jun 2016 #110
The OP is the perfect, perfect rhetorical frame. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #123
The article isn't about people who don't support Hillary, it's about people who DENY THAT SHE WON. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #299
I'll accept that you have a link but call the claim absolute bullshit. But you have every right to floriduck Jun 2016 #5
It's not bullshit at all. I called this months agi bravenak Jun 2016 #6
Then I guess your call is bullshit too. Everyone makes mistakes at some point. floriduck Jun 2016 #8
+ a zillion 840high Jun 2016 #77
+ a zillion and one chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #86
Saying 'rooted' goes too far, but there is an element of that in the tone-deafness. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #9
I think the titles always do that bombastic thing bravenak Jun 2016 #24
you know DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #10
Hard for them to see since it's not aimed at them bravenak Jun 2016 #27
Reminds me of my first pass at grad school, where I began to have my doubts about ... Hekate Jun 2016 #125
Every F'ing thing about Clinton RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #11
This. She's done so much... scscholar Jun 2016 #16
Just think what her presidency RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #17
Tick tock! leftofcool Jun 2016 #61
You are a woman? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #66
How so? DawgHouse Jun 2016 #82
Same here. 840high Jun 2016 #78
That is a very broad generalization, which indicates a lack of critical thinking. tabasco Jun 2016 #13
It is an amazing, gratuitous over-simplification. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #44
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #59
+1,000,000 ancianita Jun 2016 #242
Right, Criticizing Clinton is racist because she's white. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #14
Criticizing PoC who vote for her as having "Stockholm Syndrome" certainly is. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #33
the racist part is about dismissing the fact that she won largely because of the margins qdouble Jun 2016 #41
Presenting POCs as a unified homogenous block is racist. chascarrillo Jun 2016 #201
Most != homogenous uponit7771 Jun 2016 #205
No, saying stuff like "Hillary won the Confederacy" is. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #47
No. But denying the votes of the millions of largely black and latino voters pnwmom Jun 2016 #106
ummmmm no Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #113
Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citigroup, UBS, and millions in cash have much more to do think Jun 2016 #15
Exactly. elleng Jun 2016 #18
.+1 840high Jun 2016 #80
"When people say that Clinton stole the election or that Sanders is the true winner, sufrommich Jun 2016 #19
"The right kind of votes" Quayblue Jun 2016 #25
Not in my case she's likable enough, I don't want her near the White House Autumn Jun 2016 #20
Not in my case. I just don't like him period. But, I don't like angry white men. leftofcool Jun 2016 #63
I don't like angry men either, black or white. Interesting how you added race to it. nt Autumn Jun 2016 #74
Perhaps not in your case, but it has been demonstrated on DU, Kos, etc. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #83
You calling the overwhelming number of jews who support Hillary antisemites MattP Jun 2016 #100
Don't know where you got that, you must have replied to the wrong person . Autumn Jun 2016 #111
It's Hill-logic. Get used to it... jack_krass Jun 2016 #346
Bernie is no more jewish than I am Whimsey Jun 2016 #115
Nonsense. Bernie has not touted any religious roots. nt Autumn Jun 2016 #117
Well seeing what happened to his father's family someone had their number. gordianot Jun 2016 #128
Oh, did your grandparents die in the Holocaust? Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #231
NO my grandparents survived German occupation in WWI Whimsey Jun 2016 #358
More hill-logic, being jewish means a race and culture jack_krass Jun 2016 #347
Yep jack_krass Jun 2016 #345
It's all true. It was on the internet. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #21
This: ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #22
Exactly bravenak Jun 2016 #38
Wrong. babylonsister Jun 2016 #23
The article isn't about Sanders supporters in general, just the holdouts ucrdem Jun 2016 #30
As a holdout... Chan790 Jun 2016 #37
It said at the beginning it was not about everyone, just a portion bravenak Jun 2016 #32
Then maybe your OP title should reflect that. babylonsister Jun 2016 #40
I copied the title verbatim bravenak Jun 2016 #42
This article is about Bernie supporters who deny she won the primary Whimsey Jun 2016 #112
. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #29
No, it's not. Chan790 Jun 2016 #31
You obviously did not read it bravenak Jun 2016 #35
Posts about gender and race bring out the old players ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #48
Feel like old times!!! bravenak Jun 2016 #50
Sure does! ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #52
What you advocate is not going to happen. leftofcool Jun 2016 #64
In 2008, there were a small number of Clinton supporters who hoped Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #34
Maybe they were bravenak Jun 2016 #36
Quite a few of those PUMAs were indeed racist.nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #43
You are making a different point than the article. Whimsey Jun 2016 #118
Yes, it is. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #39
Lol!! Keep going back to the well eh? SMDH Arazi Jun 2016 #46
The denial phase. HassleCat Jun 2016 #51
You know what I think? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #62
Yeah... no. anAustralianobserver Jun 2016 #54
I accept Clinton as the nominee. I just won't vote for her. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #60
Bye bye! leftofcool Jun 2016 #65
See you. Where are you going? nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #69
Then DU is not the site for you. athena Jun 2016 #67
I think you would probably be happier there. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #68
Because I support the Democratic Party's presidential nominee? athena Jun 2016 #70
I was thinking about the issues. But you are right, it doesn't really matter which site. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #71
Clearly, you have not bothered to look at Hillary's positions on the issues. athena Jun 2016 #76
It can be a bit difficult since she is constantly flipping but I assure you that I know where she Live and Learn Jun 2016 #91
Thanks for the insult. athena Jun 2016 #93
The insulter is now insulted? Cute. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #198
Al From laughs.... think Jun 2016 #75
5 more days. You have 5 more days to tell this mixed raced woman jillan Jun 2016 #72
Was your name in this article? bravenak Jun 2016 #85
That article nailed it. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #73
I don't agree with that. bigwillq Jun 2016 #84
This is not about thise who accept that she won bravenak Jun 2016 #87
Before I even finish reading the article..... Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #89
I agree that he has not pulled her to the left bravenak Jun 2016 #94
This is total bullshit ciaobaby Jun 2016 #92
That's not what the article said Whimsey Jun 2016 #121
My opinion aside ciaobaby Jun 2016 #124
Well you certainly haven't stated why you think the win was illegitimate Whimsey Jun 2016 #293
let's try this again ciaobaby Jun 2016 #297
OK you made the argument that if a white male thought the process was rigged Whimsey Jun 2016 #316
It is apparent you have already made up your mind ciaobaby Jun 2016 #355
You missed my point Whimsey Jun 2016 #357
I don't think it is wise for you to compare what Hillary did in 2008. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #359
+1 (NT) Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #122
Reminds me of birtherism treestar Jun 2016 #98
Me too. This is terrible bravenak Jun 2016 #99
And racist? TheFarseer Jun 2016 #101
Here here!! She has been calling me a racist for a year (?) and I am a mixed race. jillan Jun 2016 #103
Yeah , I'm white and I hate Hillary because she is white TheFarseer Jun 2016 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Jun 2016 #114
comprehension much? Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #116
No, I get it TheFarseer Jun 2016 #120
yes, it makes perfect sense Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #188
They have a thing about projection. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #350
Wow, does that person do anything Besides post on message boards? TheFarseer Jun 2016 #356
I dont think so swhisper1 Jun 2016 #119
This is fucked up! peace13 Jun 2016 #126
Everything is bravenak Jun 2016 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #130
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #131
Absolutely there's unconscious misogyny. betsuni Jun 2016 #133
I agree with you bravenak Jun 2016 #140
I think the assumption that she must be lying about EVERYTHING gollygee Jun 2016 #158
I will bookmark this for link evidence, thanks. betsuni Jun 2016 #173
As another poster said, this article is genius propaganda knowing liberals are terrified of... MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #136
If people vote based on the ops I post? bravenak Jun 2016 #143
You're awfully prideful aren't you? MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #282
You do realize that you are replying to your own self with this post, right? bravenak Jun 2016 #283
What's your opinion about the article you linked to? tralala Jun 2016 #138
Some of it bravenak Jun 2016 #141
Nah...i just simply don't like corrupt candidates... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #139
IMO a rather lazy catch all appeals to the emotions no critical thinking required azurnoir Jun 2016 #142
So, if you don't believe Hillary won the nomination fair and square AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #146
Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. So spot on. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #147
No, it's rooted in cheating and corporate control of the message. cui bono Jun 2016 #148
That accusation has now been hurled so many times, Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #150
I think women MFM008 Jun 2016 #151
Is this your opinion? Lunabell Jun 2016 #152
yes, that is the op's opinion. She's made it abundantly clear in many posts cali Jun 2016 #156
She did run a racist campaign in 08 bravenak Jun 2016 #274
Still beating this drum? PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #153
This is the same type of op I posted before this primary started. bravenak Jun 2016 #164
sorry you can't post something and expect people not to read it PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #216
People posting in ths very thread did not bother to 'read' it. Just complain. bravenak Jun 2016 #221
what disgusting bull. And I say that as someone who accepted that cali Jun 2016 #154
Almost like you voted for the white woman, you anti-Semite! Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #157
Funny how automatically you seem to think I wrote this or completely agree with anything bravenak Jun 2016 #161
Obvious is obvious And you are nothing if not obvious. cali Jun 2016 #195
I never was a front bravenak Jun 2016 #227
The last time I checked, Hillary and Bernie are both Caucasian. B Calm Jun 2016 #155
So what. bravenak Jun 2016 #166
I suppose just not agreeing with the candidate's positions is out of the question. Vinca Jun 2016 #159
People should read the writing posted at the link bravenak Jun 2016 #167
You sure it doesn't have anything to do with a $15 minimum wage? Ash_F Jun 2016 #160
Not everything follows your idea of what people do or should want bravenak Jun 2016 #162
Another race baiting flame post from a Hillary supporter allowed to stand! B Calm Jun 2016 #163
How about you try to concentrate on your own posts? bravenak Jun 2016 #165
Well of course you believe that, after all you did DURec your own OP. B Calm Jun 2016 #169
Absolutely bravenak Jun 2016 #171
I don't think people are reading the linked opinion piece gollygee Jun 2016 #170
Thank you for posting that bravenak Jun 2016 #172
Refusal to acknowledge inequality is rooted in wealth and power. Orsino Jun 2016 #174
Not always the case bravenak Jun 2016 #175
Accepting that she won a rigged process is another necessary step in our evolution. Orsino Jun 2016 #177
K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #176
It most Definately IS rooted in Bigotry. Sky Masterson Jun 2016 #179
Why must you post your anti Hillary/Mighty Israel posts here? bravenak Jun 2016 #183
The post claimed that lack of support for hillary was bigotry Sky Masterson Jun 2016 #186
So you just decided not to actually read the linked piece and instead let me know bravenak Jun 2016 #190
I read about two lines of it. Sky Masterson Jun 2016 #192
It doesn't say that gollygee Jun 2016 #281
Nonsense... KansDem Jun 2016 #180
Yes, those refusers love her policies, love election irregularities, but hate her gender and race. Scuba Jun 2016 #182
Lies. PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #189
Why do some hillary supporters continue to try to stir up shit? Like this OP? Why????? nt Logical Jun 2016 #194
Hillary's war mongering, and her supporters cpwm17 Jun 2016 #196
4 more days...NUFF SAID MoonRiver Jun 2016 #202
Selfishness is the cause of all evil in this world. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #206
I certainly don't defend war. And who, exactly, was commander in chief MoonRiver Jun 2016 #207
That would be Bush. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #209
So, in case you didn't know, here is the list of DEMOCRATIC Senators who voted yay. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #210
Hillary, to this day, openly supports war. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #213
Please post links to support those claims. Thank you in advance. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #217
Here are some: cpwm17 Jun 2016 #233
Well, MoonRiver Jun 2016 #248
Have no idea why discussion of Hillary and US internal politics gets turned into anti Israel screed bravenak Jun 2016 #240
K&R Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #199
K&R workinclasszero Jun 2016 #211
I agree MaggieD Jun 2016 #215
So glad to see you bravenak Jun 2016 #222
Nice to see you too MaggieD Jun 2016 #224
Surprised too......... bravenak Jun 2016 #225
Or it could be that.. OKDem08 Jun 2016 #229
This article is a crock of shit democrattotheend Jun 2016 #232
what the writer fails to understand- Deb Jun 2016 #234
Not enough will leave and we will need to bring in moderates to make up for you guys who do leave bravenak Jun 2016 #235
Some of it is, some of it is just plain old stubbornness and pettiness. Rex Jun 2016 #236
Yep bravenak Jun 2016 #237
Me too, I always planned on voting for the primary winner. Rex Jun 2016 #238
I am pretty positive that many of the 'dead enders' are not really on our side anyway bravenak Jun 2016 #239
Agreed and that applies to many topics, a lot of us overlap somewhere in our progressive ideology. Rex Jun 2016 #269
The ones who don't fear a Trump presidency or a Trumpian Supreme Court bravenak Jun 2016 #271
OMG. Cruz scared the shit out of me! Rex Jun 2016 #273
He reminded me of that Left Behind series bravenak Jun 2016 #275
Oh yeah, speaking of another wackadoodle the man himself - Kirk Cameron. Rex Jun 2016 #279
So true. bravenak Jun 2016 #280
If you believe that, then you must also believe she's unelectable. Marr Jun 2016 #253
She doesn't say that opposing Hillary is based on racism and misogyny gollygee Jun 2016 #254
So it's a sort of low simmering racism/misogyny, that will evaporate after the convention? Marr Jun 2016 #257
What? gollygee Jun 2016 #259
Actually, Bravenak just clarified her own point, and it isn't the one you made. Marr Jun 2016 #260
That is not what I said at all bravenak Jun 2016 #262
Regardless, it isn't a big group of people gollygee Jun 2016 #263
Not a big chunk bravenak Jun 2016 #255
You're counting on Libertarians and Republicans... Marr Jun 2016 #258
I'm saying that many of the holdouts ARE libertarians and Republixans bravenak Jun 2016 #261
That's even more nonsensical. Marr Jun 2016 #264
Many of his voters were NOT DEMOCRATS bravenak Jun 2016 #265
I also saw threads started by people gollygee Jun 2016 #266
I saw that time and time again bravenak Jun 2016 #268
Many of Hillary's supporters are Independents, too. Marr Jun 2016 #267
Hillary never tried to pull in Trump voters bravenak Jun 2016 #270
This is one of the more frustrating threads ever gollygee Jun 2016 #276
I think they just look at my name and the title and just make assumptions bravenak Jun 2016 #278
Exactly. If it's this bad among Sanders supporters, imagine what it's like among non-liberals. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #295
Of course hope stupid of me...... whistler162 Jun 2016 #272
This is not about you then bravenak Jun 2016 #277
OMG... I didn't record this, all these days. ;) . I believe. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #300
Strange how they now want her to 'beg' thrm for their votes bravenak Jun 2016 #301
Beg Sanders. The winner get on her knees and .... BEG Sanders. Ya. Pretty damn disrespectful seabeyond Jun 2016 #302
They are so transparent bravenak Jun 2016 #303
Pretty transparent as they point elsewhere and insist we look away. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #304
Oh yes. The only thing worse than sexism is talking about sexism bravenak Jun 2016 #306
No it's not. In fact, if HRC were a man with the same resume and the same PROBLEMS, he never jonno99 Jun 2016 #305
Bullshit bravenak Jun 2016 #307
Here's the line that I almost stopped at: bonemachine Jun 2016 #309
It kinda is a fact bravenak Jun 2016 #311
the problem with the assertion is that bonemachine Jun 2016 #313
Its a democratic party - not an independent party Whimsey Jun 2016 #319
Those are your opinions bonemachine Jun 2016 #322
Clinton won by any measurable metric. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #312
open primaries would have been one leveler... bonemachine Jun 2016 #315
Another blogger with an opinion masquerading around as Exilednight Jun 2016 #314
That's the thing, too bonemachine Jun 2016 #354
Oh yeah-that's it for sure. jalan48 Jun 2016 #317
A nasty, factless, baiting editorial. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #318
Yes, and denial of the above maladies. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #320
Hillary got more Votes. And, a huge majority of those votes come from POC and Women Cha Jun 2016 #321
I really cannot see why they are still trying the same tactics today bravenak Jun 2016 #325
They don't want us to talk about this reality. either.. they're still trying Cha Jun 2016 #328
He showed us which groups are worth his attention and which ones are not bravenak Jun 2016 #329
From the very beginning his approach was misguided.. if he thought he had Cha Jun 2016 #331
That is why he lost bravenak Jun 2016 #333
I know you will, brave, and I thank all of you from the Cha Jun 2016 #334
Awww! bravenak Jun 2016 #335
So Happy Cha Jun 2016 #336
Please stop dividing people by race, gender or whatever a narrow mind can possibly contrive ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #323
Please stop acting like the cause of racial division is black people discusding racial issues bravenak Jun 2016 #324
Never said that, just comparing the "History Made" of Clinton campaign, which many are promoting ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #330
Maybe some segments of the population have had too much power over others for too long and bravenak Jun 2016 #332
Can you imagine a 20 year old, poor Jewish man chaining himself to a black person ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #337
Of course I can imagine it bravenak Jun 2016 #339
Thank you for this Haveadream Jun 2016 #365
They who? here's my take what has deveeloped this campaign as I've already stated azurnoir Jun 2016 #338
You know what? Not everything is about you personally and I actually avoid getting into it with you bravenak Jun 2016 #340
No it quite obviously wasn't about me personally but I outlined how I was affected personally azurnoir Jun 2016 #341
Very difficult to suss out your meanings bravenak Jun 2016 #342
Bull. It's rooted in a love of traditional FDR style Democratic values, which get little support highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #326
FDR who left the military segregated and left blacks and domestics (women) out of social security? bravenak Jun 2016 #327
Wrong again.... this is ban-bait, but Ill bite.... jack_krass Jun 2016 #343
Get ready for James Comey to be labeled the biggest sexist in the history of men. n/t yodermon Jun 2016 #348
Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate in the field Gothmog Jun 2016 #349
So completely dumb as hell. n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #351
This lady begs to differ: Herman4747 Jun 2016 #352
Why should I care what she has to say? bravenak Jun 2016 #361
Of course, it couldn't be her right-of-center politics that doesn't sell well NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #353
You could not possibly have read it if that's what you got from it bravenak Jun 2016 #360
I reject the entire premise of the title NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #362
Then you were just complaining based on title bravenak Jun 2016 #363
Don't forget simple gullibility. Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #364
I agree with the author except for her claim that open primaries would be "fairer." SunSeeker Jun 2016 #366
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